are you a CRUFFLER ?

10-31-2004, 04:40 PM

WHAT IN BLUE BLAZES IS A CRUFFLER ANYWAY?

No no no no! A Cruffler is not a glazed pastry that one can get at the local doughnut shop, nor is a Cruffler something that an automobile exhaust system specialist can help you with. Let me back up a bit.

Since 1968, in order to legally receive a firearm shipped across state lines, the recipient must possess a valid "Federal Firearms License" issued by the United States Department of the Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF). There are many types of these licenses; for dealers, for manufacturers, for importers, and for collectors. Of all of them, the collector license (known as a Type 03 license) is unique in that it does not permit the licensee to engage in a business, but rather its provisions are specifically designed to enable the collector. Furthermore, the holder of a Type 03 license is restricted to receiving firearms that have been classifed by the BATF as "Curios or Relics." That is, any firearm that was demonstrably manufactured 50 years or more prior to the current date, and/or is on a special "Curios or Relics List" published by the BATF.

As a result of these specializations, the Type 03 Federal Firearms License is known as the Curios and Relics Federal Firearms License. Abbreviated, this becomes C&R FFL, or CRFFL. Now, CRFFL, if you were to try to pronounce it, would come out something like "cruffle." Hence, the holders of these licenses have taken to referring to themselves as CRFFLers, or CRUFFLERS. So, we have a whole new lexicon:

CRUFFLER: Noun. Originally the holder of a Type 03 (C&R) FFL, but now anyone who has an interest in old, historical, or just plain weird firearms for which ammunition is usually hard to come by.

CRUFFLE: Verb. To seek out old, historical, and weird firerams to shoot, study, admire, and place in historical context. Includes engaging in ceaseless research, correspondence, and conversation about same. Also requires a refinement of fiscal priorities (Hmm. . . .I can eat this week, or I can get that all-matching Norwegian .30-06 conversion K98k. . .).

CRUFFLING: Active Participle. For a true Cruffler, this is often equated with breathing. . . from http://www.cruffler.com/whatis.html

PAPA G · 10-31-2004, 06:44 PM

ummmm, yes and no. i collect C&R's but i do not have the offical cruffler license for that activity.

Oxford · 10-31-2004, 06:47 PM

No, not currently...but may be interested at some time in the future. :nod:

10-31-2004, 06:49 PM

http://www.fo.com/firearms/sgn-cr.htm

Oxford · 10-31-2004, 06:58 PM

That link had excellent information, LD. Thanks. :nod:

10-31-2004, 09:29 PM

you are welcome Ox :right:

Shaun · 11-01-2004, 02:03 AM

I am a serious cruffler

NRAJOE · 11-01-2004, 07:47 AM

Thats the site that got me into C&R and showed me how to get a license...put it on here before.

ScottD · 11-01-2004, 11:19 AM

I've been called a lot of things, but that is not one of them.

Shaun · 11-01-2004, 11:26 AM

well I may buy another bunch of turk mausers now that I found some for 59 still wish I could find them for $19 like they were 3 years ago

silentknight · 11-01-2004, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logansdad

CRUFFLER: Noun. Originally the holder of a Type 03 (C&R) FFL, but now anyone who has an interest in old, historical, or just plain weird firearms for which ammunition is usually hard to come by.

I try to only buy guns that I will be able to shoot at least once a month so i need readily available ammo, and it'll be a couple months till I can start reloading

Dennis · 11-01-2004, 01:14 PM

uh well I have cruffeled once but it hurt so I stopped.
I heard that if you cruffel to much you will have to wear glasses

gunssb · 03-02-2005, 05:54 PM

got my blue envelope today :right:
first in line, ruski SKS :assult:

here it's a real blessing for long guns - can't avoid the brutal dealer & state fees.

DANA · 03-02-2005, 06:22 PM

If you don't have a C&R what are you waiting for????????

DANA

gunssb · 03-02-2005, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DANA

If you don't have a C&R what are you waiting for????????

DANA

just got it today DANA :cheer: :nod:

troylaplante · 03-02-2005, 08:50 PM

I'm waiting on the license from BATF. I know it is in the processing stage. I'm just waiting.

gunssb · 03-12-2005, 03:46 AM

my first C&R acquisition. Aint much - a Russian SKS with laminate stock - put a DC engineering scope & mount on. Haven't shot it yet but the scope feels rock solid unlike other receiver cover mounts.

http://groups.msn.com/NorthAmericanG...to&PhotoID=933

(thanks to NRAjoe's NorthAmericanGunrunners for hosting the pic).

NRAJOE · 03-12-2005, 08:10 AM

Looking good bro...:right:

jimb2 · 03-30-2005, 10:37 PM

I'm waiting for my 2nd renewal. I expect it will be here in another month. But then my last one isn't up till May.

gunssb · 03-31-2005, 01:00 AM

Once you get your C&R, it's frightening how guns multiple overnight.

10-31-2004, 04:40 PM	#1
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	are you a CRUFFLER ? WHAT IN BLUE BLAZES IS A CRUFFLER ANYWAY? No no no no! A Cruffler is not a glazed pastry that one can get at the local doughnut shop, nor is a Cruffler something that an automobile exhaust system specialist can help you with. Let me back up a bit. Since 1968, in order to legally receive a firearm shipped across state lines, the recipient must possess a valid "Federal Firearms License" issued by the United States Department of the Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF). There are many types of these licenses; for dealers, for manufacturers, for importers, and for collectors. Of all of them, the collector license (known as a Type 03 license) is unique in that it does not permit the licensee to engage in a business, but rather its provisions are specifically designed to enable the collector. Furthermore, the holder of a Type 03 license is restricted to receiving firearms that have been classifed by the BATF as "Curios or Relics." That is, any firearm that was demonstrably manufactured 50 years or more prior to the current date, and/or is on a special "Curios or Relics List" published by the BATF. As a result of these specializations, the Type 03 Federal Firearms License is known as the Curios and Relics Federal Firearms License. Abbreviated, this becomes C&R FFL, or CRFFL. Now, CRFFL, if you were to try to pronounce it, would come out something like "cruffle." Hence, the holders of these licenses have taken to referring to themselves as CRFFLers, or CRUFFLERS. So, we have a whole new lexicon: CRUFFLER: Noun. Originally the holder of a Type 03 (C&R) FFL, but now anyone who has an interest in old, historical, or just plain weird firearms for which ammunition is usually hard to come by. CRUFFLE: Verb. To seek out old, historical, and weird firerams to shoot, study, admire, and place in historical context. Includes engaging in ceaseless research, correspondence, and conversation about same. Also requires a refinement of fiscal priorities (Hmm. . . .I can eat this week, or I can get that all-matching Norwegian .30-06 conversion K98k. . .). CRUFFLING: Active Participle. For a true Cruffler, this is often equated with breathing. . . from http://www.cruffler.com/whatis.html

10-31-2004, 06:47 PM	#3
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	No, not currently...but may be interested at some time in the future. :nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

10-31-2004, 06:49 PM	#4
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	good C&R article here http://www.fo.com/firearms/sgn-cr.htm

10-31-2004, 06:58 PM	#5
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	That link had excellent information, LD. Thanks. :nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

11-01-2004, 02:03 AM	#7
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	I am a serious cruffler __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

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10-31-2004, 06:44 PM	#2
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	ummmm, yes and no. i collect C&R's but i do not have the offical cruffler license for that activity.

10-31-2004, 09:29 PM	#6
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	you are welcome Ox :right:

11-01-2004, 07:47 AM	#8
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Thats the site that got me into C&R and showed me how to get a license...put it on here before. __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

11-01-2004, 11:19 AM	#9
ScottD Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Evanston, IL Posts: 1,020	I've been called a lot of things, but that is not one of them. __________________ "Some people can not live without wilderness"-Aldo Leopold

11-01-2004, 11:26 AM	#10
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	well I may buy another bunch of turk mausers now that I found some for 59 still wish I could find them for $19 like they were 3 years ago __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

11-01-2004, 01:14 PM	#12
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,877	uh well I have cruffeled once but it hurt so I stopped. I heard that if you cruffel to much you will have to wear glasses __________________ Submitted with respect to all

03-02-2005, 05:54 PM	#13
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833	got my blue envelope today :right: first in line, ruski SKS :assult: here it's a real blessing for long guns - can't avoid the brutal dealer & state fees.

03-02-2005, 06:22 PM	#14
DANA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WAITSFIELD VERMONT Posts: 1,598	If you don't have a C&R what are you waiting for???????? DANA

03-02-2005, 08:50 PM	#16
troylaplante Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Selma, NC Posts: 2,223	I'm waiting on the license from BATF. I know it is in the processing stage. I'm just waiting.

03-12-2005, 03:46 AM	#17
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833	my first C&R acquisition. Aint much - a Russian SKS with laminate stock - put a DC engineering scope & mount on. Haven't shot it yet but the scope feels rock solid unlike other receiver cover mounts. http://groups.msn.com/NorthAmericanG...to&PhotoID=933 (thanks to NRAjoe's NorthAmericanGunrunners for hosting the pic).

03-12-2005, 08:10 AM	#18
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Looking good bro...:right: __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

03-30-2005, 10:37 PM	#19
jimb2 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 513	I'm waiting for my 2nd renewal. I expect it will be here in another month. But then my last one isn't up till May. __________________ I am a nobody. Nobody is perfect. Therefore, I am perfect...

03-31-2005, 01:00 AM	#20
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833	Once you get your C&R, it's frightening how guns multiple overnight.