What happened to all the Savage bolt gun lovers?

squirrelsniper · 03-16-2002, 09:15 PM

I need to talk about bolt actions, I don't know enough about the lever guns to conduct an intelligent conversation.

sadiehn · 03-16-2002, 09:52 PM

I am here so lets go squirl tell me about it

squirrelsniper · 03-16-2002, 10:14 PM

since the weather has been so crappy in my area for the past couple weeks. I haven't even gotten to finalize the powder charge and seating depth on my 308 loads for my 10FP. What I have found out looks promising though, my 5 shot 100yd groups are averaging in the .5's with quite a few in the .4's and one going up to the .6's every now and then. So far it looks like anywhere from 43.5-44.0gr of Varget behind a 168gr Sierra MK seated anywhere between .010" off the lands to just touching and getting lit up by a CCI BR-2 primer and all of it wrapped in a match prepped Lapua case is going to make me a happy camper.

lray114 · 03-17-2002, 11:03 AM

Squirrelsniper.
I'm still here too. Getting used to the new forum format.

squirrelsniper · 03-17-2002, 02:17 PM

getting used to the new format. At first I didn't think I was going to like it, but now that I've gotten used to how everything works it's pretty cool. It's pretty neat to be able to change the color and such.

TOO Builder · 03-17-2002, 03:41 PM

Finally found this and starting to figure it out, got around to breaking/sighting in my 12bvss .223 yesterday and so far I am pretty impressed with it. At 100 yds. I was getting three shot groups at 1/2'' center to center and one grouped at 3/8''. Was this a fluke beginners luck (first time with a varmint gun like this) or is this what I should expect. Can't wait to get out again and try to repeat it. TOO Builder

11th ACR · 03-17-2002, 03:49 PM

I have a left hand 110CL in 300WM,and want to swap a 264mag barrel on to it. Gun Parts has the part any one know if the contour is the some on both the 300 and 264?

sadiehn · 03-17-2002, 04:00 PM

well I preped my brass for my last to be fireformed for my 25-06 going to start playing with leangth to get them .5 groups

foot note the trigger has to be changed on the old board I said I would let every one know how I had to modify it and I can say after carefull inspection that there aint much that can be done with the stock trigger.You would have to change the geometry and that aint good

ChesterGolf · 03-17-2002, 08:44 PM

Hey Squirrelsniper,

Not a savage owner yet but thanks to you in the previous forum, I have a 116 FSAK in .300 ultra on order. What is the trigger pull on factory guns?

Wade

sadiehn · 03-17-2002, 09:12 PM

mine on my fv112 was about 4 pounds but it is a little ruff

Double D · 03-18-2002, 03:27 AM

Squirrelsniper,

what do you mean you don't know enough about lever guns! I see you on M.T all the time! Can't wait to try the load you gave me in my Scout rifle and am looking forward to hearing what you standardize on for the FP.

MangesMade · 03-18-2002, 03:28 AM

Double D · 03-18-2002, 03:31 AM

Do any of you know if Savage does custom work? My recolection is no, but I would love a 116 Safari Express rifle in .416 Rem. I like the idea of 5 rounds of big stuff for angry Cape Buff. Yes it is just a dream, but it's mine! Like the look of the new Savage web site(about time) and love the way this one turned out. My be my second favorite gun forum now.

Superbee · 03-19-2002, 01:00 AM

SquirlSnipe, Watch out!, here we come. Anyway I installed a new bi-pod (Versa Pod) in my 10FP in .308. I like the Versa type that could give you a bit of flexibility rather than the rigid Harris, I can't handle the 2-hanging springs around harris bi-pod.
Since I read a lot of postings about the savage stock is soft, I put a teflon (1/2" wide) insert inside the stocks forearm near the end to support the barrel so that when you set the bi-pod, the stock would not flex. The barrel is resting slightly on the top of the insert and I believe the stock stays without any flex. This is my first remedy to this savage supplied stock, since I don't want to spend extra money for a new stock.
I had the same crappy weather here in WI that stopping me from going at the range. Maybe someday soon.

squirrelsniper · 03-19-2002, 02:17 AM

usually around 4-6lb on Savage rifles, or in other words, about like every other factory rifle. The trigger can easily be adjusted down to 3lbs though. If you aren't an unlucky fellow and get one that has poor tolerances, its usually possible to get them down to close to 2lb. Some will go lower than 2lb but thats if you get lucky or you start replacing springs and such. Also, if you adjust the trigger, the safety adjustment screw (most rearward screw on trigger, toward buttstock) setting is the key to a good Savage trigger adjustment, if it is set too tight (it won't be unless you move it) the safety won't go on and off. If its set too light, the gun will fire even with the safety engaged; be sure to check this after any trigger adjustment on any rifle. The safety adjustment screw should be tight enough to just allow you to move the safety on and off. IMO, this adjustment should be made first as its setting will determine how light you can go on the spring adjustment and sear engagement. Just be sure that the rifle is safe beyond a doubt when you are done, this also applies to trigger jobs performed by a gunsmith as they are human and can make mistakes too. The lightest trigger in the world isn't worth getting hurt over.

Double D, Savage used to have a custom shop because it was advertised in the back of the 2000 Savage catalog. They may have dropped it in the past couple years if they weren't getting much work, but it would be worth calling them and asking.

bencharrested · 03-19-2002, 09:29 AM

I don't have too many Savage bolt rifles yet.

Only 3 model 19's, 4 model 23's and a brand new 12BVSS-S .223. Hope to have the 12 rigged and sighted in this week, if the Burris mounts & rings show up. I've already adjusted the trigger down to a more useful weight. I have checked the safety and cycled the bolt hard to be certain it will not miss fire.

bencharrested

TOO Builder · 03-19-2002, 12:51 PM

Bencharrested, what kind of glass are you putting on your 12. Just sighted mine in with Bushnell 4200 Elite 6-24x40. Liked the groups I was getting but was a real gloomy day and seemed that it wasn't as clear as I would have liked it, especially at the higher power settings. Any opinions on the Bushnell from the rest of you? Too Builder

bencharrested · 03-19-2002, 01:21 PM

TOO Builder, I went with a BSA 6-24x44 Platinum because it was only about $100 on ebay. I do like Leupold but my current budget didn't allow for the new rifle and great optics too, afterall, I wanted to buy ammo also

. I noticed on the day I got the scope in the mail it was hazy and the 24x of the BSA magnified the haze.
A couple days later, in clearer atmosphere, the site picture was bright and clear. I read over at Varmints Den that high magnification scopes tend to exagerate the humidity in the air. Additionally, a sunshade is a requirement with a target/varmint scope. From my house looking out to the backstop and a target tacked up there (330 yds), on 24x it looked as though you holding a sheet of paper at arms length.

Bencharrested

340n110 · 02-22-2007, 11:19 PM

Looks like you brought 'em on, squirrelsniper! I just registered tonight and jumped in here. I've been varminting for 54 years - since I bought a 340 in .22 Hornet in 1953. Its the most accurate out-of-the-box piece I've ever handled. I have it afield half the time, leaving across the board and customs in Bee, .22-250, .220 Swift and .25-06 in the truck. Savage greatly under-rated!! Enjoying what y'all are saying --

Midas · 02-22-2007, 11:21 PM

I'm right here, I love Savage, have had several, and they were all shooters

03-16-2002, 09:15 PM	#1
squirrelsniper Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 86	What happened to all the Savage bolt gun lovers? I need to talk about bolt actions, I don't know enough about the lever guns to conduct an intelligent conversation. __________________ Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. http://www.geocities.com/squirrelsniper/index.html

03-16-2002, 10:14 PM	#3
squirrelsniper Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 86	Well, I haven't got much to tell..... since the weather has been so crappy in my area for the past couple weeks. I haven't even gotten to finalize the powder charge and seating depth on my 308 loads for my 10FP. What I have found out looks promising though, my 5 shot 100yd groups are averaging in the .5's with quite a few in the .4's and one going up to the .6's every now and then. So far it looks like anywhere from 43.5-44.0gr of Varget behind a 168gr Sierra MK seated anywhere between .010" off the lands to just touching and getting lit up by a CCI BR-2 primer and all of it wrapped in a match prepped Lapua case is going to make me a happy camper. __________________ Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. http://www.geocities.com/squirrelsniper/index.html

03-17-2002, 02:17 PM	#5
squirrelsniper Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 86	I know what you mean about..... getting used to the new format. At first I didn't think I was going to like it, but now that I've gotten used to how everything works it's pretty cool. It's pretty neat to be able to change the color and such. __________________ Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. http://www.geocities.com/squirrelsniper/index.html

03-17-2002, 03:49 PM	#7
11th ACR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Syracuse NY Posts: 3	110CL I have a left hand 110CL in 300WM,and want to swap a 264mag barrel on to it. Gun Parts has the part any one know if the contour is the some on both the 300 and 264?

03-18-2002, 03:27 AM	#11
Double D Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SOCAL Posts: 28	Squirrelsniper, what do you mean you don't know enough about lever guns! I see you on M.T all the time! Can't wait to try the load you gave me in my Scout rifle and am looking forward to hearing what you standardize on for the FP. __________________ Double D Keep 'em hot and keep'em coming!

03-16-2002, 09:52 PM	#2
sadiehn Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: kenosha wis Posts: 54	I am here so lets go squirl tell me about it

03-17-2002, 11:03 AM	#4
lray114 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6	Squirrelsniper. I'm still here too. Getting used to the new forum format.

03-17-2002, 03:41 PM	#6
TOO Builder Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: upper mid-west Posts: 3	Finally found this and starting to figure it out, got around to breaking/sighting in my 12bvss .223 yesterday and so far I am pretty impressed with it. At 100 yds. I was getting three shot groups at 1/2'' center to center and one grouped at 3/8''. Was this a fluke beginners luck (first time with a varmint gun like this) or is this what I should expect. Can't wait to get out again and try to repeat it. TOO Builder

03-17-2002, 04:00 PM	#8
sadiehn Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: kenosha wis Posts: 54	well I preped my brass for my last to be fireformed for my 25-06 going to start playing with leangth to get them .5 groups foot note the trigger has to be changed on the old board I said I would let every one know how I had to modify it and I can say after carefull inspection that there aint much that can be done with the stock trigger.You would have to change the geometry and that aint good

03-17-2002, 08:44 PM	#9
ChesterGolf Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chester Basin, Nova Scotia Posts: 67	Hey Squirrelsniper, Not a savage owner yet but thanks to you in the previous forum, I have a 116 FSAK in .300 ultra on order. What is the trigger pull on factory guns? Wade

03-17-2002, 09:12 PM	#10
sadiehn Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: kenosha wis Posts: 54	mine on my fv112 was about 4 pounds but it is a little ruff

03-18-2002, 03:28 AM	#12
MangesMade Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: N.E. Florida Posts: 133	CZ __________________ "Keep 'em Razor Sharp"

03-18-2002, 03:31 AM	#13
Double D Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SOCAL Posts: 28	Do any of you know if Savage does custom work? My recolection is no, but I would love a 116 Safari Express rifle in .416 Rem. I like the idea of 5 rounds of big stuff for angry Cape Buff. Yes it is just a dream, but it's mine! Like the look of the new Savage web site(about time) and love the way this one turned out. My be my second favorite gun forum now. __________________ Double D Keep 'em hot and keep'em coming!

03-19-2002, 01:00 AM	#14
Superbee Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Prescott Wisconsin Posts: 23	New bi-pod for 10FP SquirlSnipe, Watch out!, here we come. Anyway I installed a new bi-pod (Versa Pod) in my 10FP in .308. I like the Versa type that could give you a bit of flexibility rather than the rigid Harris, I can't handle the 2-hanging springs around harris bi-pod. Since I read a lot of postings about the savage stock is soft, I put a teflon (1/2" wide) insert inside the stocks forearm near the end to support the barrel so that when you set the bi-pod, the stock would not flex. The barrel is resting slightly on the top of the insert and I believe the stock stays without any flex. This is my first remedy to this savage supplied stock, since I don't want to spend extra money for a new stock. I had the same crappy weather here in WI that stopping me from going at the range. Maybe someday soon. __________________ Superbee

03-19-2002, 02:17 AM	#15
squirrelsniper Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 86	ChesterGolf, the trigger pull is..... usually around 4-6lb on Savage rifles, or in other words, about like every other factory rifle. The trigger can easily be adjusted down to 3lbs though. If you aren't an unlucky fellow and get one that has poor tolerances, its usually possible to get them down to close to 2lb. Some will go lower than 2lb but thats if you get lucky or you start replacing springs and such. Also, if you adjust the trigger, the safety adjustment screw (most rearward screw on trigger, toward buttstock) setting is the key to a good Savage trigger adjustment, if it is set too tight (it won't be unless you move it) the safety won't go on and off. If its set too light, the gun will fire even with the safety engaged; be sure to check this after any trigger adjustment on any rifle. The safety adjustment screw should be tight enough to just allow you to move the safety on and off. IMO, this adjustment should be made first as its setting will determine how light you can go on the spring adjustment and sear engagement. Just be sure that the rifle is safe beyond a doubt when you are done, this also applies to trigger jobs performed by a gunsmith as they are human and can make mistakes too. The lightest trigger in the world isn't worth getting hurt over. Double D, Savage used to have a custom shop because it was advertised in the back of the 2000 Savage catalog. They may have dropped it in the past couple years if they weren't getting much work, but it would be worth calling them and asking. __________________ Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. http://www.geocities.com/squirrelsniper/index.html

03-19-2002, 09:29 AM	#16
bencharrested Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Saginaw Bay USA Posts: 3	not too many Savage bolt guns I don't have too many Savage bolt rifles yet. Only 3 model 19's, 4 model 23's and a brand new 12BVSS-S .223. Hope to have the 12 rigged and sighted in this week, if the Burris mounts & rings show up. I've already adjusted the trigger down to a more useful weight. I have checked the safety and cycled the bolt hard to be certain it will not miss fire. bencharrested

03-19-2002, 12:51 PM	#17
TOO Builder Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: upper mid-west Posts: 3	Bencharrested, what kind of glass are you putting on your 12. Just sighted mine in with Bushnell 4200 Elite 6-24x40. Liked the groups I was getting but was a real gloomy day and seemed that it wasn't as clear as I would have liked it, especially at the higher power settings. Any opinions on the Bushnell from the rest of you? Too Builder

03-19-2002, 01:21 PM	#18
bencharrested Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Saginaw Bay USA Posts: 3	scope on the 12 TOO Builder, I went with a BSA 6-24x44 Platinum because it was only about $100 on ebay. I do like Leupold but my current budget didn't allow for the new rifle and great optics too, afterall, I wanted to buy ammo also . I noticed on the day I got the scope in the mail it was hazy and the 24x of the BSA magnified the haze. A couple days later, in clearer atmosphere, the site picture was bright and clear. I read over at Varmints Den that high magnification scopes tend to exagerate the humidity in the air. Additionally, a sunshade is a requirement with a target/varmint scope. From my house looking out to the backstop and a target tacked up there (330 yds), on 24x it looked as though you holding a sheet of paper at arms length. Bencharrested

02-22-2007, 11:19 PM	#19
340n110 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2	Looks like you brought 'em on, squirrelsniper! I just registered tonight and jumped in here. I've been varminting for 54 years - since I bought a 340 in .22 Hornet in 1953. Its the most accurate out-of-the-box piece I've ever handled. I have it afield half the time, leaving across the board and customs in Bee, .22-250, .220 Swift and .25-06 in the truck. Savage greatly under-rated!! Enjoying what y'all are saying --

02-22-2007, 11:21 PM	#20
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,800 Images: 2 Blog Entries: 6	I'm right here, I love Savage, have had several, and they were all shooters