Talk to me about Hi Point - Page 2

Doglips · 11-26-2003, 07:37 PM

Tommy Glad to hear you like the 9mm...thats the only model I dont have.....the times I called for parts they are fast to solve the problems...no ?? no hassels....and ship on their dime not the gun owners.....NRAJOE is actualy the Degin Enganeer for Hi-Points....but tells everyone he's a guard .....we know the truth

tommy · 11-26-2003, 09:44 PM

well this is the first one that i own but not the first one i shoot. i shot a bunch of the old ones and they were crappy and then my brother n law bought a .380 it was made alot better and that got me interested then i heard about the warranty so i figured i would look into them a bit more. and the only thing i hear that people say about them are that they are cheap guns and that they are ugly. but to me what's wronge with selling a gun at an affordable price. sure it don't have all the bells and wisles like the other guns but you can add to them for alot less

tommy · 11-26-2003, 09:45 PM

the other side

PAPA G · 11-27-2003, 01:12 AM

wonder why they haven't produced a .22 pistol??? bet that would be a dyno-mite tackle box gun.

NRAJOE · 11-27-2003, 05:23 AM

Heck yeah, even I'd buy one in .22 cal...wouldn't cost much, toss it it around. Yes Doglips, I AM the design engineer...why do you think I don't want one!!!

Doglips · 11-27-2003, 02:11 PM

I know I talked to their customer service about the 40 cal carbine that was sapose to be out last month....they are a small factory and the tooling and other investments slow them down.....they are trying for the L/E market with the carbines...makeing some progress thats why the 40cal before the 45acp.....only thing I can think of as for a 22 woul be that there are a lot of "cheap" 22 pistols out there...so lots of compatition....same with rifles...seems like it would be hard to compeate with a $100 wal-world MArlin 60......Why they dont do the 223 cal carbine for $200 is a mystery too me.....The 45acp carbine is reported to be comeing out next year (course the 40 cal is running late)....the 45acp carbine might get some people too give HP a look that normaly would not....not many 45acp carbines out there....we will see. I rember that Taurus was once considered the cheap south american junk gun.....so who knows were HP will end up...Sothern Ohio Guns told me they cant keep them in stock...and that the 40cal was alread on back order....so they must be filling a marketing nitch.....never know 10 years from now they may be competing hard with Glocks and the like...or the democrats may outlaw everything and we will be talking about sowards vs spears for home defense.

tommy · 11-27-2003, 03:23 PM

for a small company they sure take care of thier buisness they got my clip out quik .they got my respect for customer service. or it could have been that i was the only one that called in a while so it was all they had to do that day or week .being they don't have any bad reports on thier guns or any recalls.

(snicker snicker) that last sentense was for you Joe!!

Snicker!!

BattleRifleG3 · 11-30-2003, 09:29 PM

I sure hope they make a 40 carbine and really hope they make a 45. Since they use single stack mags, then please, for the love of all that is good and decent, use 1911 mags!

troylaplante · 11-11-2004, 03:36 PM

Hey, y'all. I'm new to this particular forum, and this is my first post. I went to the range today and fired our new Hi Point .380 today. We bought it Saturday evening and this was the first day our local indoor range was open. They are only open Thursday through Saturday (out here in the country).

I had considered a Hi Point before when I was looking for a new pistol (insert NRA Joe's snicker here). I had done some online research on the Hi Point and had actually read some decent reviews. I thought about it and decided to check one out. I went to a shop that sells them while on my travels and handled one with and one without a compensator. I certainly didn't like the feel or weight of the compensated model. It seemed a bit big and awkward to me, especially since I was considering a concealed/carry pistol purchase.

In the same shop there were several other choices. I saw the Bersa .380 Thunder for sale. Since I have been shooting a S&W 4506 for years, the controls were very familiar to me. I liked the feel and weight of the Bersa. According to all the research I did on Bersa, the weapon had only good reviews. So, I bought the Bersa and have had NO regrets. I really enjoy shooting it. I had to seriously crank the sight adjustment for accuracy, but had a great time. Even my buddy who is a high end purchaser that is into bullseye shooting liked it.

Shortly thereafter, my wife decided that she wanted to learn to shoot. I had purchased her a Jennings J22 for something to start with. Yeah, I can hear the guffaws and see the eyes rolling now. However, I have no regrets about that purchase, either. You see, my wife was raised in abject fear of guns. She has seen what a gun can do in the hands of the wrong person early on in her life. She wanted nothing to do with them. So, I figured that if she doesn't like the idea of shooting, then I didn't waste much money and I have a cheap little .22 for myself. I wasn't about to break her in with a .45 or a .380.

She was shaking and scared witless the first time we went to the range. She had never been around gun fire much. Another couple were at the range, as well, and just their shots made my wife jump every time. I thought she was going to quit right then and there.

After the first terrifying trip to the range, she decided to try it again. Several more trips with her shooting a .22 and she wanted to buy a membership. Several more trips and she was shooting my .380 more and more. Now, that is all she shoots. She is addicted to shooting now.

I was wanting to buy her a nice .38 snub nose revolver. Since I don't own a revolver, we tried a .22 rental at the range. She really didn't like it and was more comfortable with the auto. Go figure. So, I told her that I would purchase her a .380 or 9mm. She objected to the idea of a high price (which to her is pretty low). So, that seriously limited our selections. She didn't want a second Bersa because she saw that as a waste of money, being over $200. OK...so that left us with either used pieces or a Hi Point, Jennings, or Lorcin. I nixed the idea of Jennings and Lorcin right away. There was a used Taurus PT111 9mm for $300, but that was a bit over priced according to online sources. I loved the pistol, but she objected to the pricing.

I took her to a shop and let her pick up and use the Hi Point. She wanted something easy to chamber, finding the Bersa a bit hard for her to slide and chamber a round. She didn't have a problem with the Hi Point, didn't mind the feel so much, and I let her decide whether to get it or not. I also let her decide on the 9mm or the .380. Because we already have a .380, she decided to go that way.

I had already done some reading on this forum after I found it by surfing. This thread with the input by doglips helped me say OK. I figured that if she didn't like it, I could use it as a glove box gun in my truck.

The Hi Point was fairly accurate right out of the box, but I should probably have oiled it a bit before use. It did jam a few times. The again, most guns I have owned in the past have jammed at first. The magazine is a pain in the buttocks to load with rounds; not anywhere near as easy as my other pistols. I shot a tight group near the X first magazine. The wife seemed to do well with it, although she wasn't as accurate. She is actually more accurate with the Bersa so far.

After shooting about 150 rounds this morning, we called it quits. I will clean up the Hi Point a bit and oil it some. The Winchester ammo sure left a lot of powder residue on the outside of the pistol around the muzzle.

One thing I have not seen anywhere, either on the MKS Supply web site or in the instructions included (same cursed thing as on the web site) is how to field strip the Hi Point. I haven't played with it yet to figure it out, but was hoping to find a pdf file or something. Anyone seen one anywhere?

Anyway, considering the money paid versus overall quality so far, I can't complain. In rapid fire, it fired as fast as I could pull the trigger. The hams seemed to be in chambering a new round rather than in ejection. Perhaps some oiling and ramp polishing can solve that. Any thoughts, y'all?

Big Dog · 11-11-2004, 08:57 PM

Troylaplante, welcome to G&G! Don't mind NRAJoe, he's our resident grouch - if it ain't an AK, he doesn't like it. Joke, Joe!!

I have the High-point Carbine (9mm) and really like it. The earlier pistols were ugly - poorly finished. But, the reviews were all good - they are reliable and reasonably accurate.

I had the chance to shoot a Bersa .380, and I liked it a lot. Styled like the Walther PP, but doesn't bite my big hand like the Walther does. Very good shooter too. I've been seriously thinking of getting one. It's either the Bersa, or a nice little .380 Tanfoglio (Beretta clone) - my local shop has both.
I still need to get my CCW anyway.

I'm still awaiting the Hi-point .45ACP Carbine. From what I've read, it won't use Colt 1911 mags - too bad. But it should be a hoot to shoot!

NRAJOE · 11-11-2004, 09:00 PM

Hi-Point...snicker, snicker, guffaw!

Maybe someday (after a head injury)

tommy · 11-11-2004, 09:12 PM

i had a compact .9mm but money got tight so i sold it .it was that or my glock.i plan on buying anotherone one day i have no complaints about the gun.if it wouldn't have been for the hard times i wouldn't have sold it.it shoots just as good as my high dollar glock. lol but for alot less money.lol

G Hollingsworth · 11-12-2004, 08:42 AM

Been in the sun to long

tommy · 11-12-2004, 11:52 AM

my old highpoint i had would shoot alot faster then my glock would!the cycle rate was alot better . that safety on the trigger of the glock kinda prevents you from doing any realy fast speed shooting but that highpoint would unload in a heartbeat.

incucrash · 11-27-2004, 01:13 AM

Hi-Point has a long way before they can be considered a pistol to buy, for now, hi-point is nothing more then a $100-300 priced gun that people will use to make all serial numbers magically disappear and suddenly the gun is in a lake or ocean somewhere. My friend had a Hi-Point .45, bought it for $175 or so, he took it out drunk to fire it outside and nothing happened, granted, he is an idiot for doing that, but it still didn't fire!

Probably a good thing, Anyways! Don't get a Hi-Point, or a Star, or any pistol with no reputation or decent website.

Right now as of November, 2004, you can get a Smith and Wesson SW VE 9mm / .40 model for under $300, I have seen them as low as $275, SMITH AND WESSON, they are only cheap because Glock filed a lawsuit against them for copying the Glock, but they are made from S&W parts, which you can't beat. Smith and Wesson gave up the pistols cheap to get rid of them and get out of the lawsuit fire-fight.

NO HI-POINT
NO STAR
NO RUGER

GO SIG, GO KIMBER, GO PARA, GO SPRINGFIELD, GO GO GO GO ANNYTTTTTTHING BUT THE "NO"s

:-)

Big Dog · 11-27-2004, 05:24 AM

Actually, the Stars do have a good reputation, at least the military models. Several gun forums have Spanish pistol forums, and lot's of us have Star pistols that we really like. Parts can be hard to come by, but the guns are quite decent.
The Hi-Points are cheap guns, with poor finish - but all I have seen and handled have performed well. They work. My Hi-Point carbine is totally reliable, and fairly accurate.
The only reason I haven't bought a Hi-Point pistol is cosmetic - they are butt-ugly. I like guns with more historical interest. But, never make the mistake of lumping these Ugly Ducklings in with the likes of Jennings/Lorcin. They are a cut above at least.
Rugers are okay, but again I don't like the looks and the long mushy DA trigger. That's just a personal thing. Lot's of folks like them fine.
I find the very same faults with S&W semi-auto pistols - ugly and a bad trigger pull. However, I'd give my left cojone to have a nice M52 target pistol in .38SPcl. I shot one once, and fell in love with it! 'Course, it does have the nice single-action trigger . . .

Pistols are a very subjective thing. One man's POS is another's gem!

troylaplante · 11-27-2004, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incucrash

Hi-Point has a long way before they can be considered a pistol to buy, for now,...

NO HI-POINT
NO STAR
NO RUGER

GO SIG, GO KIMBER...

I can see you lumping Hi-Point in with the cheapies. I could see Star with Lorcin and Jennings lumped together. The Star I owned once was a POS. Although the Hi-Point carbine has gotten awesome reviews here and in magazines, I may even give you the "Apes" gun connection (though I want one, personally). The Hi-Point I own isn't the prettiest, but isn't butt ugly either. It is functional at a reasonable cost. It isn't my favorite, but it works. But Ruger? You gotta be kidding me.

More Master shooters have started with Ruger than any other pistol. Not to mention that the Highway Patrol tends to prefer them for function and reliability. An MKII 512 is likely to be my next purchase. Other than that, I am no huge fan of Ruger, but I can hardly classify them in the same league as Star and the cheapies.

As far as Kimber, I tend to like Kimber as well. However, I have found that high end gunsmiths and competitive shooters tend to detest them. They say that Kimber puts "junk" for parts inside and thus have a bad reputation amongst high end users.

As far as a web site being the measure of how good a gun company is...I have seen some crappy sites from higher end companies and decent sites from lower end companies. Go figure.

As Big Dog said, one man's POS...

tommy · 11-27-2004, 01:03 PM

hey incucrash. did you'er buddy put any ammo in the gun???? my highpoint would spit out ammo like my ak would it wasn't picky like them other guns.the only problem with highpoint is the take down of the gun thats all.

incucrash · 11-27-2004, 05:45 PM

I've heard alright things about the rifle/carbines, but the pistols are disgusting :-)

He had ammo in it, as far as I can remember, he had to go get it serviced from where he bought it from. I probably shouldn't have thrown in Ruger and Star, Well, Maybe Star <hah>, I just didn't like the P89, but I held some nice Rugers.

I guess that's true, Pistols are a touchy subject, they all compete now-a-days, my local gun dealer said it best I guess...

All handguns now a days are made to be accurate, but it's up to you what you want to trust your life in :-)

tommy · 11-27-2004, 06:23 PM

well after owning a highpoint i would put my life on the line and safely say that if i was to grab for it it would go bang!!!! but then again you have to worrie about ammo??????i have had some duds before.never in my .9mm's but alot in my .22's but i would put my life in the hands of my old highpoint if i still had it .(i plan on buying it back . if not a new one).

11-27-2003, 05:23 AM	#25
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,043 Images: 3	Heck yeah, even I'd buy one in .22 cal...wouldn't cost much, toss it it around. Yes Doglips, I AM the design engineer...why do you think I don't want one!!! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

11-30-2003, 09:29 PM	#28
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I sure hope they make a 40 carbine and really hope they make a 45. Since they use single stack mags, then please, for the love of all that is good and decent, use 1911 mags! __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-11-2004, 03:36 PM	#29
troylaplante Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Selma, NC Posts: 2,223	My first Hi Point purchase Hey, y'all. I'm new to this particular forum, and this is my first post. I went to the range today and fired our new Hi Point .380 today. We bought it Saturday evening and this was the first day our local indoor range was open. They are only open Thursday through Saturday (out here in the country). I had considered a Hi Point before when I was looking for a new pistol (insert NRA Joe's snicker here). I had done some online research on the Hi Point and had actually read some decent reviews. I thought about it and decided to check one out. I went to a shop that sells them while on my travels and handled one with and one without a compensator. I certainly didn't like the feel or weight of the compensated model. It seemed a bit big and awkward to me, especially since I was considering a concealed/carry pistol purchase. In the same shop there were several other choices. I saw the Bersa .380 Thunder for sale. Since I have been shooting a S&W 4506 for years, the controls were very familiar to me. I liked the feel and weight of the Bersa. According to all the research I did on Bersa, the weapon had only good reviews. So, I bought the Bersa and have had NO regrets. I really enjoy shooting it. I had to seriously crank the sight adjustment for accuracy, but had a great time. Even my buddy who is a high end purchaser that is into bullseye shooting liked it. Shortly thereafter, my wife decided that she wanted to learn to shoot. I had purchased her a Jennings J22 for something to start with. Yeah, I can hear the guffaws and see the eyes rolling now. However, I have no regrets about that purchase, either. You see, my wife was raised in abject fear of guns. She has seen what a gun can do in the hands of the wrong person early on in her life. She wanted nothing to do with them. So, I figured that if she doesn't like the idea of shooting, then I didn't waste much money and I have a cheap little .22 for myself. I wasn't about to break her in with a .45 or a .380. She was shaking and scared witless the first time we went to the range. She had never been around gun fire much. Another couple were at the range, as well, and just their shots made my wife jump every time. I thought she was going to quit right then and there. After the first terrifying trip to the range, she decided to try it again. Several more trips with her shooting a .22 and she wanted to buy a membership. Several more trips and she was shooting my .380 more and more. Now, that is all she shoots. She is addicted to shooting now. I was wanting to buy her a nice .38 snub nose revolver. Since I don't own a revolver, we tried a .22 rental at the range. She really didn't like it and was more comfortable with the auto. Go figure. So, I told her that I would purchase her a .380 or 9mm. She objected to the idea of a high price (which to her is pretty low). So, that seriously limited our selections. She didn't want a second Bersa because she saw that as a waste of money, being over $200. OK...so that left us with either used pieces or a Hi Point, Jennings, or Lorcin. I nixed the idea of Jennings and Lorcin right away. There was a used Taurus PT111 9mm for $300, but that was a bit over priced according to online sources. I loved the pistol, but she objected to the pricing. I took her to a shop and let her pick up and use the Hi Point. She wanted something easy to chamber, finding the Bersa a bit hard for her to slide and chamber a round. She didn't have a problem with the Hi Point, didn't mind the feel so much, and I let her decide whether to get it or not. I also let her decide on the 9mm or the .380. Because we already have a .380, she decided to go that way. I had already done some reading on this forum after I found it by surfing. This thread with the input by doglips helped me say OK. I figured that if she didn't like it, I could use it as a glove box gun in my truck. The Hi Point was fairly accurate right out of the box, but I should probably have oiled it a bit before use. It did jam a few times. The again, most guns I have owned in the past have jammed at first. The magazine is a pain in the buttocks to load with rounds; not anywhere near as easy as my other pistols. I shot a tight group near the X first magazine. The wife seemed to do well with it, although she wasn't as accurate. She is actually more accurate with the Bersa so far. After shooting about 150 rounds this morning, we called it quits. I will clean up the Hi Point a bit and oil it some. The Winchester ammo sure left a lot of powder residue on the outside of the pistol around the muzzle. One thing I have not seen anywhere, either on the MKS Supply web site or in the instructions included (same cursed thing as on the web site) is how to field strip the Hi Point. I haven't played with it yet to figure it out, but was hoping to find a pdf file or something. Anyone seen one anywhere? Anyway, considering the money paid versus overall quality so far, I can't complain. In rapid fire, it fired as fast as I could pull the trigger. The hams seemed to be in chambering a new round rather than in ejection. Perhaps some oiling and ramp polishing can solve that. Any thoughts, y'all?

11-11-2004, 08:57 PM	#30
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,208	Troylaplante, welcome to G&G! Don't mind NRAJoe, he's our resident grouch - if it ain't an AK, he doesn't like it. Joke, Joe!! I have the High-point Carbine (9mm) and really like it. The earlier pistols were ugly - poorly finished. But, the reviews were all good - they are reliable and reasonably accurate. I had the chance to shoot a Bersa .380, and I liked it a lot. Styled like the Walther PP, but doesn't bite my big hand like the Walther does. Very good shooter too. I've been seriously thinking of getting one. It's either the Bersa, or a nice little .380 Tanfoglio (Beretta clone) - my local shop has both. I still need to get my CCW anyway. I'm still awaiting the Hi-point .45ACP Carbine. From what I've read, it won't use Colt 1911 mags - too bad. But it should be a hoot to shoot! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

11-11-2004, 09:00 PM	#31
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,043 Images: 3	Hi-Point...snicker, snicker, guffaw! Maybe someday (after a head injury) __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

11-26-2003, 07:37 PM	#21
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	Tommy Glad to hear you like the 9mm...thats the only model I dont have.....the times I called for parts they are fast to solve the problems...no ?? no hassels....and ship on their dime not the gun owners.....NRAJOE is actualy the Degin Enganeer for Hi-Points....but tells everyone he's a guard .....we know the truth

11-27-2003, 01:12 AM	#24
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	wonder why they haven't produced a .22 pistol??? bet that would be a dyno-mite tackle box gun.

11-27-2003, 02:11 PM	#26
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	I know I talked to their customer service about the 40 cal carbine that was sapose to be out last month....they are a small factory and the tooling and other investments slow them down.....they are trying for the L/E market with the carbines...makeing some progress thats why the 40cal before the 45acp.....only thing I can think of as for a 22 woul be that there are a lot of "cheap" 22 pistols out there...so lots of compatition....same with rifles...seems like it would be hard to compeate with a $100 wal-world MArlin 60......Why they dont do the 223 cal carbine for $200 is a mystery too me.....The 45acp carbine is reported to be comeing out next year (course the 40 cal is running late)....the 45acp carbine might get some people too give HP a look that normaly would not....not many 45acp carbines out there....we will see. I rember that Taurus was once considered the cheap south american junk gun.....so who knows were HP will end up...Sothern Ohio Guns told me they cant keep them in stock...and that the 40cal was alread on back order....so they must be filling a marketing nitch.....never know 10 years from now they may be competing hard with Glocks and the like...or the democrats may outlaw everything and we will be talking about sowards vs spears for home defense.

11-27-2003, 03:23 PM	#27
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,014 Images: 6	for a small company they sure take care of thier buisness they got my clip out quik .they got my respect for customer service. or it could have been that i was the only one that called in a while so it was all they had to do that day or week .being they don't have any bad reports on thier guns or any recalls. (snicker snicker) that last sentense was for you Joe!! Snicker!!

11-11-2004, 09:12 PM	#32
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,014 Images: 6	i had a compact .9mm but money got tight so i sold it .it was that or my glock.i plan on buying anotherone one day i have no complaints about the gun.if it wouldn't have been for the hard times i wouldn't have sold it.it shoots just as good as my high dollar glock. lol but for alot less money.lol

11-12-2004, 08:42 AM	#33
G Hollingsworth Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 227	Been in the sun to long

11-12-2004, 11:52 AM	#34
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,014 Images: 6	my old highpoint i had would shoot alot faster then my glock would!the cycle rate was alot better . that safety on the trigger of the glock kinda prevents you from doing any realy fast speed shooting but that highpoint would unload in a heartbeat.

11-27-2004, 01:13 AM	#35
incucrash Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 101	Hi-Point has a long way before they can be considered a pistol to buy, for now, hi-point is nothing more then a $100-300 priced gun that people will use to make all serial numbers magically disappear and suddenly the gun is in a lake or ocean somewhere. My friend had a Hi-Point .45, bought it for $175 or so, he took it out drunk to fire it outside and nothing happened, granted, he is an idiot for doing that, but it still didn't fire! Probably a good thing, Anyways! Don't get a Hi-Point, or a Star, or any pistol with no reputation or decent website. Right now as of November, 2004, you can get a Smith and Wesson SW VE 9mm / .40 model for under $300, I have seen them as low as $275, SMITH AND WESSON, they are only cheap because Glock filed a lawsuit against them for copying the Glock, but they are made from S&W parts, which you can't beat. Smith and Wesson gave up the pistols cheap to get rid of them and get out of the lawsuit fire-fight. NO HI-POINT NO STAR NO RUGER GO SIG, GO KIMBER, GO PARA, GO SPRINGFIELD, GO GO GO GO ANNYTTTTTTHING BUT THE "NO"s :-)

11-27-2004, 05:24 AM	#36
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,208	Actually, the Stars do have a good reputation, at least the military models. Several gun forums have Spanish pistol forums, and lot's of us have Star pistols that we really like. Parts can be hard to come by, but the guns are quite decent. The Hi-Points are cheap guns, with poor finish - but all I have seen and handled have performed well. They work. My Hi-Point carbine is totally reliable, and fairly accurate. The only reason I haven't bought a Hi-Point pistol is cosmetic - they are butt-ugly. I like guns with more historical interest. But, never make the mistake of lumping these Ugly Ducklings in with the likes of Jennings/Lorcin. They are a cut above at least. Rugers are okay, but again I don't like the looks and the long mushy DA trigger. That's just a personal thing. Lot's of folks like them fine. I find the very same faults with S&W semi-auto pistols - ugly and a bad trigger pull. However, I'd give my left cojone to have a nice M52 target pistol in .38SPcl. I shot one once, and fell in love with it! 'Course, it does have the nice single-action trigger . . . Pistols are a very subjective thing. One man's POS is another's gem! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

11-27-2004, 01:03 PM	#38
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,014 Images: 6	hey incucrash. did you'er buddy put any ammo in the gun???? my highpoint would spit out ammo like my ak would it wasn't picky like them other guns.the only problem with highpoint is the take down of the gun thats all.

11-27-2004, 05:45 PM	#39
incucrash Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 101	I've heard alright things about the rifle/carbines, but the pistols are disgusting :-) He had ammo in it, as far as I can remember, he had to go get it serviced from where he bought it from. I probably shouldn't have thrown in Ruger and Star, Well, Maybe Star <hah>, I just didn't like the P89, but I held some nice Rugers. I guess that's true, Pistols are a touchy subject, they all compete now-a-days, my local gun dealer said it best I guess... All handguns now a days are made to be accurate, but it's up to you what you want to trust your life in :-)

11-27-2004, 06:23 PM	#40
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,014 Images: 6	well after owning a highpoint i would put my life on the line and safely say that if i was to grab for it it would go bang!!!! but then again you have to worrie about ammo??????i have had some duds before.never in my .9mm's but alot in my .22's but i would put my life in the hands of my old highpoint if i still had it .(i plan on buying it back . if not a new one).