Join Date: Nov 2008
Originally Posted by GoodNeighborSam
| |Hi everyone! Well, the summeris going along, and I've thought it through, that by the end of the year, I'llhave enough for BOTH a M1 Garand, and a high quality AK rifle. Now, I've never operatedan AK, but from what I've seen they look really simple. Figure that would be agod way to learn semi-auto rifles. I did have the opportunity to fondle one onSaturday, and I have to say, I actually found it to be a comfortable rifle, Ihave no complaints about the ergonomics.....though those probably arediscovered later. Anyways, from what I've read, Arsenal sounds like they makethe best by taking a Saiga and converting it to the Kalashnikov platform. Isearched around on K-var's website, and I really like the sgl21-94 which is thefull stock, and a side folder in the 7.62x39mm. I like the folder since once Iget a place of my own, it would be nice to have something for self-defense ifthe situation arises, the folding stock would be easy to maneuver, and easy toconceal in a bedroom, closet, or chest. I think I've droned on enough on that.So, as ignorant as I am with these and any other semi auto rifles, I do havesome questions about some stuff that mainly has to do with the guts of it, andother features. First off, has anyone used arsenal? How do you like them? I watched the MAC and the nutnfancy videos on YouTube, and Inoticed that the military arms channel pointed out the 94's lack of areinforcement plate. I'm assuming these add reinforcement to the pistol griparea if the stock is folded and the rifle is dropped. Wanting to be on the"better to have and not need" portion, I was wondering if this is somethingthat any gunsmith could install, and if anyone has a ball park estimate of howmuch this would cost. Further reading on the rifle, I noticed that the muzzlebrake is not chrome lined which would leave it prone to corrosion. Not a problem unless you plan to use corrosive ammo. I lookedaround and found ak103.com who I believe is also known as AK USA, and found outthat their muzzle brakes are chrome lined. I was wondering if anyone has hadexperience with them. I also noticed this one http://www.ak-103.com/services/compensator_105.htmlI kind of like it since it’s different, but I was wondering what the conicalpart does, and if anyone knows, would a bayonet fit over this? Spending some more quality time on YouTube, I foundtheAK47nut, who seems to have some nice videos that walked through on takingapart the bolt, and then showing how to use the cleaning kit. I remember hementioned “…we have modern tools, brass cleaning rods…” which makes me wondercan/should you use the cleaning kits and steel cleaning rod, or can it damagethe rifle? I don't have much use for a commi cleaning kit personally. Sights! Looking at meprolights website, they make nightsights for the AK, was wondering if anyone has used them, and how do theycompare to the factory installed ones? Also, is it difficult to swap them out? Never used them but it shouldn't too difficult. Further waiting out the rain on YouTube, I saw thedifference between double and single hook triggers. Other than the second hook,is there any real difference between them? Is double better? Are they interchangeablebetween rifles? A single hook can go in a double hook rifle but not the other way around. Double hooks are supposed to be smoother. Further researching, the AK is designed to shoot steel casedammo, but can you fire brass in them? Also, from customer reviews, Tula andwolf seem to get a bad to mediocre reputation, but the silver/brown/golden bearseems to get good reviews. What do you like to run through yours, and if youshoot the bear ammo, how do you like it? Also, can the cases be recycledinstead of just thrown away? I’ve also read about these lacquered cases, whatthe heck are they, and can they “gunk” up the gun? There is no reason to shoot brass cased ammo in an AK. I've never had a problem with Tula but I've only shot about 200 rounds of it. I've shot lots of Brown Bear and it has never given me a problem. Steel cases can be reloaded but it isn't worth it fiscally or time wise to do so. I shoot lacquered brown bear and have had no problem with it gumming up or anything (AKs have loose tolerances anyway). Lacquered ammo is better than polymer coated for rust protection too. Those are the functionality questions I have, but I have afew more on accessories. Is there a good source for real Russian accessories, likeslings magazines, and bayonets? Particularly a source for the modern daybayonet made by Izhmash Check out Kvar With the 922, do slings and other accessories fall under it? See the link below And finally, magazines! Circle 10 seems to produce the bestpolymer ones, but they’re more expensive than Pmags….granted I’ve never used anm16, it just seems like a reasonable comparison. Can these be found cheaper onlike gun broker or from other places? Are steel mags still made? I just posted several links to cheap mags in another thread here, check it out.
Also, it would seem like the folding stocks are just attached to a plate in front, could they be removed like other stocks, and swaped out with others? No, they use completely different trunnions (rear mounts) unless you get a Tapco one which I'd stay away from. And, do/can these need to be disassembled during cleaning? Probably can but no reason to. The rifles also have an optics mount on the left side of thereceiver, but can/do the optics mounts detach from these like a quick releaseon a rifle scope, or are they permanent? There are quick release mounts available
Fianlly! Sound supressors, though I dont have a use for one, could a 7.62 supressor fit on the barrel, or are those for .308 rifles only? There are suppressors for AKs but why do it? That requires a $200 tax stamp and suppressors cost hundreds more plus they still want make an AK super quiet, don't believe the movies. Thanks for your patience, and for helping out a newb!
Final, final quesstion. The finish on the arsenal's can be damaged by some cleaning materials, from what I've read. Is Hoppe #9 good to use or can that screw up the finish? Would Gun scrubber synthetic safe be a better one to use? I believe Hoppes could screw it up, I always just use Rem Oil on the finish of my rifles
Unless you can find a converted (AKA 922r compliant non-thumbhole stock configuration) MAK90for less than $600 get an Arsenal and don't look back!
Here is an easy 922r calculator; Gunwiki: 922(r) Worksheet for AK-47 Builds
I believe all of the info I gave is correct but if not I'm sure someone will correct me. Just so you know, I own a MAK90 and have done a good bit of research on most all of the topics you asked. If you have any more questions just ask, it always pays to be an educated buyer. Good luck!
Last edited by SasquatchSniper; 08-07-2012 at 10:03 PM.