Worst manufacturer?

BattleRifleG3 · 01-24-2005, 04:25 PM

Inspired by what I first thought the thread was on manufacturer's websites, how about who you think the worst manufacturer is of guns? No poll here, just type the name.

And if you say Hesse/Vulcan like me, how about a second worst as well?

Shaun · 01-24-2005, 04:31 PM

lorcin - they have tarnished the name of good gun makers since they are the key choice of most criminals

BattleRifleG3 · 01-24-2005, 04:40 PM

I'm thinkin pretty hard on this one, but I might have to say Smith and Wesson as the second worst (the modern version only, of course) for continuing to put out the extremely lousy Sigma pistols. They cave in to the antis, then fail to even put a manual safety on their Sigmas, while their trigger safety is miserable. Everything I've read is that they're jamomatics, and I have yet to see one where the front of the frame wasn't bent.

I've also read of breakages of their low end 22 pistols, which are also ugly as sin.

Shaun · 01-24-2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

I'm thinkin pretty hard on this one, but I might have to say Smith and Wesson as the second worst (the modern version only, of course) for continuing to put out the extremely lousy Sigma pistols. They cave in to the antis, then fail to even put a manual safety on their Sigmas, while their trigger safety is miserable. Everything I've read is that they're jamomatics, and I have yet to see one where the front of the frame wasn't bent.

I've also read of breakages of their low end 22 pistols, which are also ugly as sin.

5906 is the early jamomatic

Big Dog · 01-24-2005, 04:54 PM

Since Lorcin has already been mentioned, I'll say Davis - I have yet to see one that will operate as it is supposed to. Makes a fairly decent paperweight.

whirlwind · 01-24-2005, 05:26 PM

jennings sucks pretty hard

jerry · 01-24-2005, 05:30 PM

Usrac

tommy · 01-24-2005, 05:57 PM

lol as much as everyone rags out highpoint i haven't seen anyone mention them . cool because they ain't that bad. my choice is hesse. and lorcin.

Apollyon67 · 01-24-2005, 06:40 PM

Not happy with Colt being unsupportave as a civilian gun manufacturer.

Doglips · 01-24-2005, 06:42 PM

RUGER SUCKS MOSE Weenie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont let myt ruger super red hawk in the same gun safe as my high points OR JENNINGS out of fear it will contamante them!!!

OK to be fair...I just have had problems with that 1 ruger pistol....and when I found out that the problem was the Steel they used in the 454 cas cylenders expanding too much ....and they knew it was a problem and did not fix it...resulting in the brass of high power loads (factory or home made).....sticking so bad you have to beat on the ejector rod...and being told to use light loads to avoid the problem...welp I have a big chip on m shoulder.

I dod have a jennings J-22...something I picked up along the way...I cant rember how it shot...been years since I played with it....just know it was better made than my ruger

troylaplante · 01-24-2005, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by whirlwind

jennings sucks pretty hard

I just broke my J22. Yup, suckomatic.

PAPA G · 01-24-2005, 10:05 PM

hey BRG3 i thought you liked the Sigma???

my worst has to be the little Roscoes sold by RG years ago. though their Mod 66 single action western .22 was descent.

lefty o · 01-24-2005, 11:01 PM

auto ordnance, lorcin, jennings.......................

7mmag6 · 01-25-2005, 01:20 AM

you know that kind of crap(saturday night specials) just gives the antis and the lawyers ammo, read this article from a scumbag lawyer firm

http://www.swbtrial.com/articles/firearm_article1.html

Dennis · 01-25-2005, 03:54 AM

raven/jennings/davis/lorcin are all the same people in ontario California. they just keep changeing the name

RG was bad
arminous was bad
highpoint............well I dont like them..........

I guess I am a believer in machined steel
I hate cast zink aluminum alloy striker fired pistols
they are junk
the arminous revolver looks like a wad of clay with a barrel stuck in it and a cylinder in the middle.

it is easy to comizerate about crrrr ap pistols
yet I can Remember being in a gun fight with out a gun
I would have gladly had Any of these guns that night.
I was luck to live through that
not everybody did.

even though i dont like the firearms I mentioned above
i still like them a little bit
anything that shoots has some degree of coolness.
and must always be respected.

BattleRifleG3 · 01-25-2005, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PAPA G

hey BRG3 i thought you liked the Sigma???

I was merely looking into it. Then folks here and on Gunsnet told their stories. And I inspected a few in person. The Steyr Kicks its arse (and the arse of guns I still consider good).

Kamikaze · 01-25-2005, 09:26 PM

Cobra Patriot 45 acp semi pistol. Even after sending it back to Cobra for repair (twice), I never could get to shoot more than 5 or 6 round in a row without it jamming. Once disassembled, It was also difficult to reassemble; the parts didn't seem to fit right.
I was glad to get rid of it at a gun show!
Bob

Bookman · 01-26-2005, 07:58 AM

Sterling Arms Company of Gasport, NY

Makers (past tense) of the worst pocket pistols ever to wear the "Made in USA" label.

Dogma · 02-10-2005, 12:56 AM

WALTHER...................I have had nothing but problems with there P-22, G-22 and the P-99QA. Walther had turned to crap ever since they teamed up with S&W. No offence to you S&W fans. Sure they have a lifetime warranty, but how many times a years should you have to send it back in. Each firearms has been sent back to Walther a total of three time a piece, beside the P-99 which has been sent only two times. CRAP CRAP CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't you tell I' m fed up???????

grndesert · 02-14-2005, 04:18 PM

How about TITAN ? And just about any "FRENCH" made revolver or pistol....

01-24-2005, 04:25 PM	#1
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Worst manufacturer? Inspired by what I first thought the thread was on manufacturer's websites, how about who you think the worst manufacturer is of guns? No poll here, just type the name. And if you say Hesse/Vulcan like me, how about a second worst as well? __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

01-24-2005, 04:31 PM	#2
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	lorcin - they have tarnished the name of good gun makers since they are the key choice of most criminals __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

01-24-2005, 04:40 PM	#3
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I'm thinkin pretty hard on this one, but I might have to say Smith and Wesson as the second worst (the modern version only, of course) for continuing to put out the extremely lousy Sigma pistols. They cave in to the antis, then fail to even put a manual safety on their Sigmas, while their trigger safety is miserable. Everything I've read is that they're jamomatics, and I have yet to see one where the front of the frame wasn't bent. I've also read of breakages of their low end 22 pistols, which are also ugly as sin. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

01-24-2005, 04:54 PM	#5
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,214	Since Lorcin has already been mentioned, I'll say Davis - I have yet to see one that will operate as it is supposed to. Makes a fairly decent paperweight. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

01-24-2005, 05:26 PM	#6
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,737 Images: 1	jennings sucks pretty hard __________________ De oppresso liber !

01-24-2005, 05:30 PM	#7
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,882 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Usrac __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

01-24-2005, 05:57 PM	#8
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,031 Images: 6	lol as much as everyone rags out highpoint i haven't seen anyone mention them . cool because they ain't that bad. my choice is hesse. and lorcin.

01-24-2005, 06:40 PM	#9
Apollyon67 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 2,235 Images: 17	Not happy with Colt being unsupportave as a civilian gun manufacturer. __________________ "To err is human, to repent divine; to persist devilish." Ben Franklin

01-24-2005, 06:42 PM	#10
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	RUGER SUCKS MOSE Weenie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont let myt ruger super red hawk in the same gun safe as my high points OR JENNINGS out of fear it will contamante them!!! OK to be fair...I just have had problems with that 1 ruger pistol....and when I found out that the problem was the Steel they used in the 454 cas cylenders expanding too much ....and they knew it was a problem and did not fix it...resulting in the brass of high power loads (factory or home made).....sticking so bad you have to beat on the ejector rod...and being told to use light loads to avoid the problem...welp I have a big chip on m shoulder. I dod have a jennings J-22...something I picked up along the way...I cant rember how it shot...been years since I played with it....just know it was better made than my ruger

01-24-2005, 10:05 PM	#12
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	hey BRG3 i thought you liked the Sigma??? my worst has to be the little Roscoes sold by RG years ago. though their Mod 66 single action western .22 was descent.

01-24-2005, 11:01 PM	#13
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,806	auto ordnance, lorcin, jennings.......................

01-25-2005, 01:20 AM	#14
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	you know that kind of crap(saturday night specials) just gives the antis and the lawyers ammo, read this article from a scumbag lawyer firm http://www.swbtrial.com/articles/firearm_article1.html __________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine

01-25-2005, 03:54 AM	#15
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,877	raven/jennings/davis/lorcin are all the same people in ontario California. they just keep changeing the name RG was bad arminous was bad highpoint............well I dont like them.......... I guess I am a believer in machined steel I hate cast zink aluminum alloy striker fired pistols they are junk the arminous revolver looks like a wad of clay with a barrel stuck in it and a cylinder in the middle. it is easy to comizerate about crrrr ap pistols yet I can Remember being in a gun fight with out a gun I would have gladly had Any of these guns that night. I was luck to live through that not everybody did. even though i dont like the firearms I mentioned above i still like them a little bit anything that shoots has some degree of coolness. and must always be respected. __________________ Submitted with respect to all

01-25-2005, 09:26 PM	#17
Kamikaze Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8	Cobra Patriot 45 acp semi pistol. Even after sending it back to Cobra for repair (twice), I never could get to shoot more than 5 or 6 round in a row without it jamming. Once disassembled, It was also difficult to reassemble; the parts didn't seem to fit right. I was glad to get rid of it at a gun show! Bob

01-26-2005, 07:58 AM	#18
Bookman Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 10 paces south of Canada Posts: 738	Sterling Arms Company of Gasport, NY Makers (past tense) of the worst pocket pistols ever to wear the "Made in USA" label.

02-10-2005, 12:56 AM	#19
Dogma Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 10	WALTHER...................I have had nothing but problems with there P-22, G-22 and the P-99QA. Walther had turned to crap ever since they teamed up with S&W. No offence to you S&W fans. Sure they have a lifetime warranty, but how many times a years should you have to send it back in. Each firearms has been sent back to Walther a total of three time a piece, beside the P-99 which has been sent only two times. CRAP CRAP CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't you tell I' m fed up???????

02-14-2005, 04:18 PM	#20
grndesert Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Harris Co. Texas Posts: 133	How about TITAN ? And just about any "FRENCH" made revolver or pistol....