Talk to me about Hi Point

[gunssb]

I'm sure nrajoe will be happy - less competition might drive the AK prices down

[tommy]

Originally Posted by tommy

hey i won't lie my little .9mm highpoint compact was more accurate than my .9mm glock. i did sell the highpoint when money was tight but i will get another one.the only people who complain about a highpoint are the ones who don't even own one and never did. go figure???????????????

and they have an great warranty!!!!

[Big Dog]

Yep, I've posted before that the High-point carbine loves the cheapo Wolf 9mm ammo! As does my cheapo Maadi Cadet (Helwan) pistol. The Wolf is pretty good pistol ammo. A buddy's CZ75 likes it too. I get better accuracy and higher velocity with Wolf than the Federal and Winchester brands.

Several LE departments use the HP carbine - they are trusting their lives to the little gun - can't be a total POS in that regard! With a little more development, it'll be excellent.

[gunssb]

anyone know if the hi-point carbine is cali legal ? I mean it's a semi-auto with a detachable mag and a pistol grip right ? = "assault" ?

[SHOOTIST357]

Since I've read more than once about the carbine giving a little "cheek slap" from the recoil, I'm already planning a fix before I hit the range. As of now I'm looking at an old neoprene mouse pad that would make a really nice cheek pad with a little engineering. 1/4" thick and soft/spongy....I have a plan....SHOOTIST

[gunssb]

Originally Posted by gunssb

anyone know if the hi-point carbine is cali legal ? I mean it's a semi-auto with a detachable mag and a pistol grip right ? = "assault" ?

yes, they are assault weapons in cali...just confirmed that with the dealer

[RonfrmSC]

Originally Posted by incucrash

Oh Joy! No more cardboard boxes!! :-)

Hey, For real, Invest in a Smith And Wesson SW40 VE / SW9 VE / SW40 P / SW40 G

They are complete rip-offs of Glock, I believe the only difference is the trigger area, and they are dirt cheap.

$275-325

SMITH AND WESSON!! <winner>

http://www.firearms.smith-wesson.com...sw_activeTab=1

^^SW 40VE

I agree they are just about exact clones of the Glock models, but as I sit here holding my SW S40VE, I can't help but think the Smith is the better gun, I've modified mine with the 4 lb trigger spring and the titanium guide rod, considering you can buy 2 for about 100 bucks more than one of the Glocks AND it's American made, the choice is clear.
Some Glock owners make a huge deal of the gap between the slide and the frame being much bigger, well I measured it just out of curiosity and it's.0085 difference.
I called S/W today to inquire about the special offer they had going for awhile about getting 2 extra hi cap mags if your's was bought at a certain time, but ofcourse mine wasn't in the time frame.
But the good news is the 25.00 gift certificate they give you can be used towards a 15 rd mag, I pronptly mailed off the difference of 11.00 + 6.95 S&H today (not that 5 extra rds of .40 cal HPs would make much difference) but it's gonna be nice to have.

Ron

[RonfrmSC]

Originally Posted by stangman

Ok heres my 2 cents worth. I've owned 3 of the .45 old styles and 1 carbine. Loved them at first but boy did I start to have my share of problems! Had slide retaining pin shear at the range and broke my brother inlaws jaw. When I was finally able to talk to a real person from customer service I was told that it was my fault for using over powered ammo - Federal Hydoshok's- and the replacement pin was $5.95 + s&h, had my gunsmith buddy make one out of solid pin stock, free, safer and easier to use! A different .45 had a jam up, case was seated in the chamber except for like a mm. Couldn't get the slide back to clear it but the safety could be engaged, like I said before almost closed but not quite, the firing pin could be released but enough to get the saftey on. Ok no problem, lock it case it and take it to my buddy. Simple fix, probably just some grime in the throat, simple. First thing he did was the best, he places it in a firing barrel and drops the saftey and BAM! 230 grains of hardball into the water! No trigger, no sudden impacts, just dropping the saftey! Now the carbine! On the range I'm amazed at the recoil slap to my cheek bone from a 9mm. After a mags worth I'm done for the day, go home and take stock off and find thestock is thin, hollow plastic, nothing to buffer the bolt during firing. After some experimenting a pad of wool rubber cemented to the stock softens the recoil enough to make the day enjoyable. Amazing accuracy for a little carbine, tight groups at pistol ranges, 2-3 in. at 100 and consistant area target hits at 500 & more yards! Cool! Then the stock breaks just back from the pistol grip! Once again, customer service and MY FAULT, must of dropped it or something AND no stocks in stock, all backordered! All ALOT of shooters must be dropping their carbines! Fine, JB Weld and some fiberglass filler and the stock is now shootable again, HEY no RECOIL NOW! Another 500 or so rounds down range and now the %^&(! thing starts going BRRRP! and gets me kick off the range for having a full auto! Complete strip clean, no broken parts no sign of any reason that I can see for it to go ROCK & ROLL on me. Back together and now out to the Department range w/ the Departments Armouror. Sure as ^*T it goes BRRRRP through the whole mag, after 50 rounds the Armourer takes it apart finds that the sear metal is so soft its worn down. And once again no help from the customer service people. I donated all of the Hi-Points to the Department. The pistols had the firing pins ground and the bores plugged to make them non-functionable and are used in senerio training and the carbine is used to help train Deputies to get used to recoil climb on full auto, 9mm is much cheaper than .223 when your throwing it away like that. But warn anybody that asks about them to stay away.

Not quite sure who you talked to @ HI Point Firearms, for me their customer service has been excellent.

When I bought my 1st 995 9mm carbine it didn't have a sling, swivels, or scope mount. One phone call and 5 days later a package arrived that had everything mentioned free of ANY charge and he threw n a compensator for free w/o asking.

Also from their website http://www.mkssupply.com/handguns.asp......... what he told you about hot ammo was B/S.

CCP from their site.
All Hi-Point Firearms are +P+ rated; they will handle all factory ammunition including Law Enforcement Only +P+ loads

I'm sure a few get by Q/C that are bad, but by and large I consider them a fine firearm well worth the price.

Ron

[troylaplante]

Originally Posted by incucrash

Hey, For real, Invest in a Smith And Wesson SW40 VE / SW9 VE / SW40 P / SW40 G

They are complete rip-offs of Glock, I believe the only difference is the trigger area, and they are dirt cheap.

$275-325

I still haven't seen any that have come down that far in price. All the ones I have seen retain a $425 and up price tag. Since S&W was sued by Glock for copying them, I heard that the price was going to drop like a rock, but I haven't seen it.

[stangman]

Sorry Tommy, but that last statement just isn't true. If you some of the prior threads on Hipoints you'ld see alot from both pro & con. Me I've had 4 pistols and 1 carbine and I'll never own another one. I had problems from the safety, the ejector, slide pin & on the carbine my ended up with a full sear after about 500 rnds. and I never did get any help from the customer service - very rude. Now that was 5 or so tears ago and they could have changed since then but I'm not going to find out the hard way. My opinion only.

[tommy]

don't even attempt to field strip it.you can but it can be a pain in the butt and you will need a little pin puncher to pop out the pin in the rear of the gun.your best bet is to wait until you get home to take it down.

[tommy]

they must have changed becaues it's true. but like i have said before you can buy a peice of crap from just about anyone.i had a colt ar15 back in 1985 and that sucker would jam just about every clip and thats a high dollar gun. go figure?? now my bushmaster has never jamed yetand was a few hundred less.hum?????????? there is such a thing as a factory defectand it can happen to more than one gun in the same factory. and maybe you just had a rude dude on the phone. and they couldn't have been that bad if you bought 4 pistols and 1 carbine thats 5 guns from highpoint .lol you don't need any more you have them all already.lol

[RonfrmSC]

One thing, on the carbine make sure you take the time to remove EACH hex head screw in the stock and loctite the devil out of em, they will shoot loose in time, same deal with the charging bolt.

I also modified the factory peep sight by drilling out the tiny opening with a 1/8th bit, as I'm sure everyone knows you focus on the front sight anyway with the peep sights and opening up the rear apeture greatly improves quick target pick up especially in low light situations.

Ron

[SHOOTIST357]

Finally got to the range today with the 995 carbine. First of all this thing really has a lot of recoil for a 9mm carbine...the cheek slap was rough with hot 9mm reloads. Then I tried the home-made mouse pad cheekrest and it was much better. Out of the 500 rounds I ran through it today, I had no misfires, no jams, no fail to feed, no fail to eject, nothing !!!! I shot various reloads of different powers and weight bullets. I even tried loading the mag sloppy...still fed fine. It is very picky when it comes to accuracy. It hated the 121 gr cast bullets, no matter what the powder was behind it. grouped around 3" at 25 yards with a 7x scope. Now on the other hand, it loved FMJ in both 124 gr and 115 gr. The 115 gr was the clear winner with 1" groups at 25 yards (yea, not MOA but who cares). Maybe if I slowed them down a bit they will group better. I also tossed a TASCO PDP2 red dot on it. Looked better than the scope, and just as effective at 25 yards. One thing I noticed is that once you start shooting it, you don't notice the bad trigger pull...you just get used to it. I also noticed my groups were smaller by the end of the day (barrel break in on a $100 rifle ???) I'll pull it apart this week, and see how the insides look. Bottom line is I'm very happy with my 995 carbine for now. I'm going to finish up the cheek rest, put a real weaver rail on it, and a better scope and test it again with some different reloads. SHOOTIST

[gunssb]

NRAjoe will love this - American Rifleman has a review of the Hi-Point carbine...their test gun had a pretty canted rear sight

Other things: Sgt York, American Rifleman, American Hero (I wanna have a 1903 so bad after I read that :right: ). Also, the Revolution muzzle-loader. There's an article on the 2nd amendment: "In an authoritative opinion (release Dec 04), the U.S. DOJ concludes that the Second Amendment unquestionably secures an individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms" (but that's probably old news for many of you).

[NRAJOE]

Snicker snicker guffaw! Yeah, I saw that report guns....

[maarten221]

So would this be a better weapon than say a mechtec carbine conversion? I called both companies to find out if they make something chambered in "alternative" calibres. I agree that this carbine in .223 or some other similar calibre would definitely kick but....how's about a 7.62 Tokarev carbine?

[PAPA G]

Originally Posted by gunssb

NRAjoe will love this - American Rifleman has a review of the Hi-Point carbine...their test gun had a pretty canted rear sight

Other things: Sgt York, American Rifleman, American Hero (I wanna have a 1903 so bad after I read that :right: ). Also, the Revolution muzzle-loader. There's an article on the 2nd amendment: "In an authoritative opinion (release Dec 04), the U.S. DOJ concludes that the Second Amendment unquestionably secures an individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms" (but that's probably old news for many of you).

yep that was a great article about Sgt York i didn't know he was the technical advisor on the film made about him!!! so all them guys who always bring up the Luger Cooper used can stick it in their ear.

lest ways AR is to be commended for the unbiased report on the Hi-Point.

all the other gun rags gun whore writers never test one that i have seen.

ya know why??? cause if they give a gun a good report, the writer can buy it for a very substantile discount. a lot of good guns don't get wrote up, i guess cause the maker/importer doesn't want to play the game.

[maarten221]

Cheapskates!
Are any of these new pistol calibre carbines with detachable barrels?

[Stan Couzens]

I've got two of the Hi-Points in 9MM. First thing you do is take off the sights and scrap them. Add a red-dot or a quality pair of sights and you you have a great, reliable house gun to play with. The 9MM out of the longer barrel makes a formidable coyote chaser. They're pretty darn acurate, too.