Inexpensive air rifle - Page 2

drinks · 06-06-2006, 08:46 PM

I also bought a Cummins Chink junk, mostly to check the advertized 1000fps claim, actually did just over 700fps, I was unable to get the sights adjusted to get POI anywhere near POA and got patterns of 3" at 15 feet.
There is an online forum on airguns that includes reviews of a large number of airguns, it is truthful and educational.
The Chinese have poor metal technology, the springs go limp quickly, there is an American who makes quality replacement springs for Chinese airguns and actually makes they reasonably long lived.
The Chinese barrels are very variable in internal dimensions, seems to be a commie thing, look at the m38's and m44's around.
I still shoot a Sheridan Silver Streak I have had over 40 years, an annual cleaning and oiling is all it has ever needed.
The new 5mm pellets for it are not nearly as heavy or have the range of the originals.
The surprise in air rifles is the Mexican ones.
Mexico, until this year, did not allow citizens to own rifles, so there is a very active air rifle development going on, including large calibers, up to .45 that I know of and some of the .25-.35 caliber have been reported to have killed coyotes, javalinas and even deer.

RealEstateMan · 06-08-2006, 03:37 PM

drinks: I've got my original Sheridan Blue Streak that I bought in 1973. Still shoots great. With the original pellets it would shoot through a 1" pine board under 12 feet. I think there are semi custom pellets available online that duplicate the originals.

jellydonut · 06-08-2006, 06:20 PM

I have a blue streak in 5mm. What's the difference between the new pellets and the old? I don't get it. Did they cheap out on the lead?

RealEstateMan · 06-13-2006, 01:42 PM

jellydonut
The newer pellets are that "hour glass" type of design. The older pellets were shaped more like a .38 caliber full wadcutter bullet, much heaver.

myarmor · 06-13-2006, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .22guy

This is the one I purchased:
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=838396

For the money, this Crossman is a good choice. I have had 2 of them and for a factory pump it has one of the fastest FPS. Just go easy after you oil the seals. I made the mistake of using max pumps right after I had oiled them and after about 7 shots I blew them out. So a word of advice, just oil it when you don't plan on using it for a day or just do it at night while watching TV.

.22guy · 08-09-2006, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myarmor

For the money, this Crossman is a good choice. I have had 2 of them and for a factory pump it has one of the fastest FPS. Just go easy after you oil the seals. I made the mistake of using max pumps right after I had oiled them and after about 7 shots I blew them out. So a word of advice, just oil it when you don't plan on using it for a day or just do it at night while watching TV.

I ended up sending this thing back to MidwayUSA. I wasn't satisfied with it at all. Besides I realized that I don't have time to shoot all my real guns, so I couldn't be wasting time pumping up a pellet rifle. I'd someday like to get a better and more powerful model. Like a 1000 FPS second one. Do they make a .22 pellet rifle that shoots that fast or close to it?

Taurusist · 08-23-2006, 07:38 AM

but does the gutter leak now with new holes in it?

drinks · 09-10-2006, 07:52 PM

22guy;
If you review several of the air rifle sites, you will find actual reviews of air rifles including what had to be replaced to get a dependable rifle.
I have been looking at one at Walmart, Winchester brand, made in Turkey, comes with a scope, gives 1000fps , per the propaganda on the box.
I have a chrono and have tried 4 air rifles, the only one that came close to advertized velocity was the Sheridan, they used to claim 600fps with 6 pumps and I got 580fps, pretty close. A Crossman claimed 600 and got 520, a Daisy claimed 750 and got 670 and a chinese $20 claimed 1000 and got 700.
Velocity will depend on the weight of the pellets, the lighter the faster. There is a pellet available that must be zinc based, claims to shoot 200fps faster than regular pellets in any gun.
What you need depends on what you are going to do.
Paper punching needs the best accuracy, small game needs a good velocity and reasonable accuracy.
Do not expect to shoot possums at 50 yds, might do it, but that is really pushing it.
Expect to keep your shots within 25 yds and use hollow points or magnum point type pellets to hunt with.
Now , everyone who has shot any number of large animals at 100yds, feel free to chime in. ;D

.22guy · 10-01-2006, 07:27 PM

Bringing this thread to life.....

Crosman Quest 1000- 1000 FPS

What about this one guys?

ba_50 · 05-15-2008, 04:46 PM

I've got a Daisy 880 and it has poor accuracy. Checking out Crosman 2100's for $70.

Rex in OTZ · 05-15-2008, 05:01 PM

$5 yard sale B1-1 that shoots just fine, shreds pop cans at 35' no problem
I also use a new mfg Dasiey 1938 Red Rider that isant much like the old knuckle busters buy I can home in on a pop can at 25' and not even use the sights just fire for affect and walk them in, once I got the hang of where she shoots I dont even use sights anymore, the old B1-1 "possibly a #62?" has no marking's at all. it does pretty good after a good barrel cleaning and made a new breech gasket "high temp silicone" the muzzle crown had to be touched up, I used pan head screw chucked up in a power drill & valve lapping compound.
I use Slick50 spray for the lube "not much though"

10-01-2006, 07:27 PM	#29
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,166	Bringing this thread to life..... Crosman Quest 1000- 1000 FPS What about this one guys? __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

06-06-2006, 08:46 PM	#21
drinks Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 23	I also bought a Cummins Chink junk, mostly to check the advertized 1000fps claim, actually did just over 700fps, I was unable to get the sights adjusted to get POI anywhere near POA and got patterns of 3" at 15 feet. There is an online forum on airguns that includes reviews of a large number of airguns, it is truthful and educational. The Chinese have poor metal technology, the springs go limp quickly, there is an American who makes quality replacement springs for Chinese airguns and actually makes they reasonably long lived. The Chinese barrels are very variable in internal dimensions, seems to be a commie thing, look at the m38's and m44's around. I still shoot a Sheridan Silver Streak I have had over 40 years, an annual cleaning and oiling is all it has ever needed. The new 5mm pellets for it are not nearly as heavy or have the range of the originals. The surprise in air rifles is the Mexican ones. Mexico, until this year, did not allow citizens to own rifles, so there is a very active air rifle development going on, including large calibers, up to .45 that I know of and some of the .25-.35 caliber have been reported to have killed coyotes, javalinas and even deer.

06-08-2006, 03:37 PM	#22
RealEstateMan Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eastern Tennessee Posts: 31	drinks: I've got my original Sheridan Blue Streak that I bought in 1973. Still shoots great. With the original pellets it would shoot through a 1" pine board under 12 feet. I think there are semi custom pellets available online that duplicate the originals.

06-08-2006, 06:20 PM	#23
jellydonut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 234	I have a blue streak in 5mm. What's the difference between the new pellets and the old? I don't get it. Did they cheap out on the lead?

06-13-2006, 01:42 PM	#24
RealEstateMan Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Eastern Tennessee Posts: 31	jellydonut The newer pellets are that "hour glass" type of design. The older pellets were shaped more like a .38 caliber full wadcutter bullet, much heaver.

08-23-2006, 07:38 AM	#27
Taurusist Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 68	but does the gutter leak now with new holes in it?

09-10-2006, 07:52 PM	#28
drinks Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 23	22guy; If you review several of the air rifle sites, you will find actual reviews of air rifles including what had to be replaced to get a dependable rifle. I have been looking at one at Walmart, Winchester brand, made in Turkey, comes with a scope, gives 1000fps , per the propaganda on the box. I have a chrono and have tried 4 air rifles, the only one that came close to advertized velocity was the Sheridan, they used to claim 600fps with 6 pumps and I got 580fps, pretty close. A Crossman claimed 600 and got 520, a Daisy claimed 750 and got 670 and a chinese $20 claimed 1000 and got 700. Velocity will depend on the weight of the pellets, the lighter the faster. There is a pellet available that must be zinc based, claims to shoot 200fps faster than regular pellets in any gun. What you need depends on what you are going to do. Paper punching needs the best accuracy, small game needs a good velocity and reasonable accuracy. Do not expect to shoot possums at 50 yds, might do it, but that is really pushing it. Expect to keep your shots within 25 yds and use hollow points or magnum point type pellets to hunt with. Now , everyone who has shot any number of large animals at 100yds, feel free to chime in. ;D

05-15-2008, 04:46 PM	#30
ba_50 Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 16	I've got a Daisy 880 and it has poor accuracy. Checking out Crosman 2100's for $70.

05-15-2008, 05:01 PM	#31
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kotzebue, Alaska Posts: 451	$5 yard sale B1-1 that shoots just fine, shreds pop cans at 35' no problem I also use a new mfg Dasiey 1938 Red Rider that isant much like the old knuckle busters buy I can home in on a pop can at 25' and not even use the sights just fire for affect and walk them in, once I got the hang of where she shoots I dont even use sights anymore, the old B1-1 "possibly a #62?" has no marking's at all. it does pretty good after a good barrel cleaning and made a new breech gasket "high temp silicone" the muzzle crown had to be touched up, I used pan head screw chucked up in a power drill & valve lapping compound. I use Slick50 spray for the lube "not much though"