.22 mag vs. .17 hmr

JohnBlaze · 05-06-2008, 02:46 AM

So what do you guys think? I have a Savage Model 90 with a stainless steel bull barrel which I had tapped for open sights, I love this gun.

My friend keeps talking about buying a Marlin .17 hmr, but I tried to discourage them, they are more expensive to buy, shoot, and they're not better, imo.

****oops! I just noticed I placed this thread in the wrong forum, and I told myself not to be a stupid newbie, and then I acted like one. Guess I got too "gung-ho" about this site.

can one of you moderators kindly move this to a relevant forum? thank you!***

Big Dog · 05-06-2008, 04:37 AM

Basically, it boils down to....

If you want to eat the critter, use a .22 WMR.

If you want to blow him up, use the .17HMR.

I like both.

Bravo · 05-06-2008, 09:21 AM

Does the .22mag have greater range than the .17HMR?

andrew cochran · 05-06-2008, 09:22 AM

No I wouldn't say so at all. The .17 is more accurate.

JohnBlaze · 05-06-2008, 09:25 AM

I wonder if there are ballistics comparisons out there that we can find?

andrew cochran · 05-06-2008, 09:54 AM

Compared: .17 HMR and .22 WMR (Magnum)

Bravo · 05-06-2008, 10:12 AM

I'm surprised that he picked the .17 over the .22 for shots over 100 yards. Yeah, the .17 will not drop as fast (at first), but it's energy is going to be shot to heck beyond 100 yards, at least compared to the .22WMR.

Wouldn't you be better off knowing the distance of your target and adjusting for trajectory, and getting more energy down range at the same time?

I vote .22WMR

andrew cochran · 05-06-2008, 10:31 AM

I voted the .22 WMR too but some people would disagree. But I can't help that.

samuel · 05-06-2008, 10:36 AM

My experience,the.17,s are considerably more accurate at 100yds on a relativly still day. sam.

andrew cochran · 05-06-2008, 10:37 AM

They difietly are!

Bravo · 05-06-2008, 01:44 PM

Are they more accurate, or do they just have a flatter trajectory?

The 30-06 shoots flatter than the .308, but many consider the .308 to be more accurate.

I don't know if I would feel confident hunting with a 20-gr bullet, even though it's small game, and the bullet is moving like a bat out of hell.

At 100 yards, are people able to produce better groups with a .17 than a .22? If so, then I see a place for the .17. If not, then I'd rather take the .22, and have to calculate trajectory beyond 100 yards.

andrew cochran · 05-06-2008, 03:58 PM

You will have better groups with a .17 HMR.

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05-06-2008, 02:46 AM	#1
JohnBlaze Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0)	.22 mag vs. .17 hmr So what do you guys think? I have a Savage Model 90 with a stainless steel bull barrel which I had tapped for open sights, I love this gun. My friend keeps talking about buying a Marlin .17 hmr, but I tried to discourage them, they are more expensive to buy, shoot, and they're not better, imo. **oops! I just noticed I placed this thread in the wrong forum, and I told myself not to be a stupid newbie, and then I acted like one. Guess I got too "gung-ho" about this site. can one of you moderators kindly move this to a relevant forum? thank you!* Last edited by JohnBlaze; 05-06-2008 at 02:54 AM. Reason: I'm an idiot

05-06-2008, 04:37 AM	#2
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,063 Trader Rating: (0)	Basically, it boils down to.... If you want to eat the critter, use a .22 WMR. If you want to blow him up, use the .17HMR. I like both. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

05-06-2008, 09:22 AM	#4
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 1,904 Trader Rating: (1)	No I wouldn't say so at all. The .17 is more accurate. __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it!

05-06-2008, 09:54 AM	#6
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 1,904 Trader Rating: (1)	Compared: .17 HMR and .22 WMR (Magnum) __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it! Last edited by andrew cochran; 05-06-2008 at 10:04 AM.

05-06-2008, 09:21 AM	#3
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,775 Trader Rating: (0)	Does the .22mag have greater range than the .17HMR?

05-06-2008, 09:25 AM	#5
JohnBlaze Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0)	I wonder if there are ballistics comparisons out there that we can find?

05-06-2008, 10:12 AM	#7
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,775 Trader Rating: (0)	I'm surprised that he picked the .17 over the .22 for shots over 100 yards. Yeah, the .17 will not drop as fast (at first), but it's energy is going to be shot to heck beyond 100 yards, at least compared to the .22WMR. Wouldn't you be better off knowing the distance of your target and adjusting for trajectory, and getting more energy down range at the same time? I vote .22WMR

05-06-2008, 10:31 AM	#8
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 1,904 Trader Rating: (1)	I voted the .22 WMR too but some people would disagree. But I can't help that. __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it!

05-06-2008, 10:36 AM	#9
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,050 Trader Rating: (0)	My experience,the.17,s are considerably more accurate at 100yds on a relativly still day. sam.

05-06-2008, 10:37 AM	#10
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 1,904 Trader Rating: (1)	They difietly are! __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it!

05-06-2008, 01:44 PM	#11
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,775 Trader Rating: (0)	Are they more accurate, or do they just have a flatter trajectory? The 30-06 shoots flatter than the .308, but many consider the .308 to be more accurate. I don't know if I would feel confident hunting with a 20-gr bullet, even though it's small game, and the bullet is moving like a bat out of hell. At 100 yards, are people able to produce better groups with a .17 than a .22? If so, then I see a place for the .17. If not, then I'd rather take the .22, and have to calculate trajectory beyond 100 yards.

05-06-2008, 03:58 PM	#12
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 1,904 Trader Rating: (1)	You will have better groups with a .17 HMR. __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it!