K98 bolt disassembly question

gunssb · 04-18-2005, 11:51 AM

Pardon my never-ending stupid Mauser questions.

Anyway, I have this bubba'ed K98 bolt that I'd like to get the bolt parts off so I can use it on a non-bubba'ed bolt body. I was trying this last night and I don't know what bubba did with the safety because it's to the far right in the fire position and won't budge any other way (when the action is cocked of course)

I have had to disassemble the bolt on a "real" K98 only once before, but I think that there's no way to separate the parts after de-cocking the bolt, without moving the safety to the upright/midway position (done beforehand when it was still in the gun & cocked). Am I right ? What has bubba done to the bolt that prevents the safety from being operated (and right side is off unlike the usual) ?? Also on the safety, it says "Mark II" - maybe that will help ? is it some sort of aftermarket safety ? Is my best bet to not worry about it & buy some bolt parts (they're more expensive than the bolt body!). Thanks!

Edit: I found the safety that I'm talking about on Brownell's:
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/Sto...MARK+II+SAFETY

So what's the deal with this ??

Okay, some more googling & I found this:
http://www272.pair.com/stevewag/turk/turklosafe.html

It talks about aftermarket safeties - so do I assume bubba botched it up or forgot to grind it ? Can I somehow remove the safety and use the rest of the parts ?

I really wish people would not mess around with K98s

gunssb · 04-18-2005, 08:53 PM

Okay, so I tried this again - twisted it around a bit in the decocked position & was finally able to separate the body from the rest. I noticed that the collar, safety and extractor band has waffeampts and the sleeve has a number that matches the rest (floorplate, receiver, etc) - looks authentic. Man, I don't think I want to meet the tool who bubba'ed this Mauser -- J.P. Sauer with everything matching & no import marks

pity

rebel727 · 04-18-2005, 08:58 PM

OK, here's what ya gotta do. To disassemble it take a pair of vice grips and grip the sear lug on the bottom of the bolt and pull it back till it just clears the shroud, then turn it just enough for it to rest on the shroud. Now depress the small pin on the front of the shroud and unscrew the shroud from the bolt. (left) The bolt has to be cocked to install it in a rifle. To cock it ,grip the sear lug and pull it back and turn the shroud to the right as far as it will go. It will click when it goes into place. With the bolt cocked your safety should work. When you pull the sear back it compresses the spring so it's gonna be a lil tuff.

rebel727 · 04-18-2005, 09:00 PM

oops five minutes too late. What I get for taking mine apart while I'm typing without checking before I post. LOL!!!

gunssb · 04-18-2005, 10:13 PM

LOL. Thanks anyway. I think he's messed up the safety because no matter how hard in the cocked position with the bolt in the gun I try it won't budge. I think he was supposed to grind the cocking sleeve but did it only partially (maybe at that point he reached the end of his bubba skills

Anyway, I'll look around for a K98 safety. They should outlaw aftermarket parts for K98s

Hattrick · 04-18-2005, 11:27 PM

Hahha, agreed. I'm dumb enough, from time to time, to remove the bolt with the safety to the right. If I'm also too dumb to put it back in to right my wrong, I'll use something like the edge of a table. What I do is hook that little lobe (the one on the underside of the shroud that the trigger obviously engages) to the underside of a preferably toweled or clothed table edge and pull skyward. This compresses the main spring more than necessary to fire, and allows the safety 'flag' to pretty much wobble freely until you get it where you want it. Then you ease your death grip on the the thing, and let the spring open up, holding the safety in the proper, upright, place.

rebel727 · 04-18-2005, 11:30 PM

I've got an F.N safety and shroud. I recently got remarried and a lot of my "junk" is at my moms. I don't know how soon I can get to it but if you're not in a hurry you're welcome to it.

rebel727 · 04-19-2005, 07:19 AM

Got it right here! Recently brought back a box of parts intending to try to rebuild a bunch of busted Marlin model 25 .22 clips. Good gun

, lousy clips!

Anyway I checked and there it was along with a couple of Mauser triggers and barrel bands. It's still in the white with no markings. If ya want it PM your address and I'll send it to ya.

04-18-2005, 11:51 AM	#1
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833 Trader Rating: (0)	K98 bolt disassembly question Pardon my never-ending stupid Mauser questions. Anyway, I have this bubba'ed K98 bolt that I'd like to get the bolt parts off so I can use it on a non-bubba'ed bolt body. I was trying this last night and I don't know what bubba did with the safety because it's to the far right in the fire position and won't budge any other way (when the action is cocked of course) I have had to disassemble the bolt on a "real" K98 only once before, but I think that there's no way to separate the parts after de-cocking the bolt, without moving the safety to the upright/midway position (done beforehand when it was still in the gun & cocked). Am I right ? What has bubba done to the bolt that prevents the safety from being operated (and right side is off unlike the usual) ?? Also on the safety, it says "Mark II" - maybe that will help ? is it some sort of aftermarket safety ? Is my best bet to not worry about it & buy some bolt parts (they're more expensive than the bolt body!). Thanks! Edit: I found the safety that I'm talking about on Brownell's: http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/Sto...MARK+II+SAFETY So what's the deal with this ?? Okay, some more googling & I found this: http://www272.pair.com/stevewag/turk/turklosafe.html It talks about aftermarket safeties - so do I assume bubba botched it up or forgot to grind it ? Can I somehow remove the safety and use the rest of the parts ? I really wish people would not mess around with K98s Last edited by gunssb; 04-18-2005 at 12:07 PM.

04-18-2005, 08:58 PM	#3
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,515 Trader Rating: (0)	OK, here's what ya gotta do. To disassemble it take a pair of vice grips and grip the sear lug on the bottom of the bolt and pull it back till it just clears the shroud, then turn it just enough for it to rest on the shroud. Now depress the small pin on the front of the shroud and unscrew the shroud from the bolt. (left) The bolt has to be cocked to install it in a rifle. To cock it ,grip the sear lug and pull it back and turn the shroud to the right as far as it will go. It will click when it goes into place. With the bolt cocked your safety should work. When you pull the sear back it compresses the spring so it's gonna be a lil tuff. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

04-18-2005, 09:00 PM	#4
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,515 Trader Rating: (0)	oops five minutes too late. What I get for taking mine apart while I'm typing without checking before I post. LOL!!! __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

04-18-2005, 11:27 PM	#6
Hattrick Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 55 Trader Rating: (0)	Hahha, agreed. I'm dumb enough, from time to time, to remove the bolt with the safety to the right. If I'm also too dumb to put it back in to right my wrong, I'll use something like the edge of a table. What I do is hook that little lobe (the one on the underside of the shroud that the trigger obviously engages) to the underside of a preferably toweled or clothed table edge and pull skyward. This compresses the main spring more than necessary to fire, and allows the safety 'flag' to pretty much wobble freely until you get it where you want it. Then you ease your death grip on the the thing, and let the spring open up, holding the safety in the proper, upright, place. __________________ Certified Guitarmorer :guitar:

04-18-2005, 11:30 PM	#7
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,515 Trader Rating: (0)	I've got an F.N safety and shroud. I recently got remarried and a lot of my "junk" is at my moms. I don't know how soon I can get to it but if you're not in a hurry you're welcome to it. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

04-18-2005, 08:53 PM	#2
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833 Trader Rating: (0)	Okay, so I tried this again - twisted it around a bit in the decocked position & was finally able to separate the body from the rest. I noticed that the collar, safety and extractor band has waffeampts and the sleeve has a number that matches the rest (floorplate, receiver, etc) - looks authentic. Man, I don't think I want to meet the tool who bubba'ed this Mauser -- J.P. Sauer with everything matching & no import marks pity

04-18-2005, 10:13 PM	#5
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833 Trader Rating: (0)	LOL. Thanks anyway. I think he's messed up the safety because no matter how hard in the cocked position with the bolt in the gun I try it won't budge. I think he was supposed to grind the cocking sleeve but did it only partially (maybe at that point he reached the end of his bubba skills Anyway, I'll look around for a K98 safety. They should outlaw aftermarket parts for K98s

04-19-2005, 07:19 AM	#8
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,515 Trader Rating: (0)	Got it right here! Recently brought back a box of parts intending to try to rebuild a bunch of busted Marlin model 25 .22 clips. Good gun , lousy clips! Anyway I checked and there it was along with a couple of Mauser triggers and barrel bands. It's still in the white with no markings. If ya want it PM your address and I'll send it to ya. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!