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Old 06-20-2012, 11:25 PM   #1
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Full Length Guide Rod question

I have a RIA 1911 Government clone that does'nt have a guide rod at all. Just a spring. Would my gun benefit anything by installing a full length guide rod?
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:14 AM   #2
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Well it was intended to have one, so I would guess that having one would prob improve performance or at the very least make the spring last longer. One of the 1911 gurus will be along shortly
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:22 AM   #3
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Excellent question

You will probably get a number of differing replies. Personally, I doubt you would get an real world benefit from the full length guide rod when it comes to accuracy and performance. Most of us cannot shoot well enough and do not shoot often enough for many aftermarket benefits to the basic design.
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:17 AM   #4
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I don't care much for the full length rod. The only advantage to having one I can see, is being able to push out the slide stop and remove the slide assembly without breaking everything down.
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:34 AM   #5
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I put one in my first 1911's and really couldn't see the difference. All it did was render me unable to do the thumb & forefinger chamber check.
My Government Issue 1911A1 has made it almost 70 years without a full length guide rod and it hasn't shown any ill effects.
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:50 AM   #6
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I like them because of the balanced feel they give the pistol. I'm not sure it gives any other benefit than that. If you like the slightly muzzle forward feel they are great but if not then you probably won't like a full length rod.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:35 AM   #7
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If it was needed Mr. Browning would have built it with one. JMHO
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:04 AM   #8
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from an accuracy standpoint a FLGR is questionable.
I have a Comp gun with one incorperated into the system, and I also have a carry gun without one.
Both will remove the orange dots from target centers equally at 25 yards.

the reason the carry gun does not have one is because, if needed, the slide is darn near impossible to rack one handed.
If your injured and have only the use of one hand, that guide rod is going to be a big problem at the worse possible moment.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:50 AM   #9
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I like the added weight of a FLGR, but that's all it offers. Make no mistake, it does absolutely nothing for accuracy, nor will it increase spring life, or reliability. They also make field stripping a bit more difficult.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:41 AM   #10
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I think the 1911 is already too heavy, so I wouldn't buy one. Mine works perfectly without it.
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:33 PM   #11
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Ok Thanks for the info.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:39 PM   #12
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I tried a full guide rod and it functions better with the original, I wouldn't
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:50 AM   #13
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There's an old adage that goes: The only thing a full length guide rod guides is money out of your pocket.

When the Marine Corps ordered 1911's from Kimber a couple of years ago they specified a half length guide rod for reasons already listed above.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:59 PM   #14
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As the above members posted, it probably won't make much of a difference on your gun. As I understand it the full length guide rod was brought about as a measure to tighten up loose rails on well used 1911s and custom gunsmiths sort of set the bar for public demand, now they're all over. For the record I put one on my .38 Commander build, not 100% necessary but I was after the weight.
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:30 PM   #15
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FLGs are the only option on a tapered barrel that doesnt use a bushing also I believe.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:58 AM   #16
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FLGs are the only option on a tapered barrel that doesnt use a bushing also I believe.
Pretty much, I've seen one bull barrel 1911 that didn't have a FLGR and that was a Unertl 1911 which is now discontinued.
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:35 AM   #17
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several of y'all mentioned using a FLGR for the added weight. how much do these suckers weigh?
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:06 AM   #18
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several of y'all mentioned using a FLGR for the added weight. how much do these suckers weigh?
I don't have a scale, but I'd guess they add around an ounce, maybe a bit more. It dosen't sound like a lot, but they do give the gun a different feel, it's weight added below the bore axis which is more benificial. It's not a huge difference, but if you've got a gun with a mag well too, it starts to add up. I like a hefty 1911, one of my favorites is my RRA which has a FLGR, mag well, and a heavier 38 Super barrel, that thing weighs probably close to 44oz vs about 37 for a regular 1911, it just feels and shoots amazing.
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