Hi Point carbines

NRAEric · 08-09-2005, 04:06 PM

Ok, I know hi point is a decent gun. I have a simple question though. What can I use the 9mm for(Besides home defense)? I'd really like to know. Thanks.

BattleRifleG3 · 08-09-2005, 04:33 PM

Shooting paper, shooting small animals, shooting inanimate objects. Yup, that's all I can think of.

Welcome to Gunandgame! If you like Hi-points, I have a feeling we'll never see the end of NRAEric vs NRAJoe (who mocks Hi-Points compulsively.)

NRAEric · 08-09-2005, 04:36 PM

Thanks man. Any other suggestions would be appriciated.

NRAJOE · 08-09-2005, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NRAEric

Thanks man. Any other suggestions would be appriciated.

Boat anchors...flower vases...hammers...its endless...snicker, guffaw

Big Dog · 08-09-2005, 05:35 PM

Boat anchors... too light!
flower vases... too skinny!
hammers... too soft!

I use mine for what it's designed - fun sport shooting! It's a good gun to introduce and train new shooters on too.

NRAJoe just doesn't appreciate it's finer qualities.

I'm looking forward to the .45ACP model.

troylaplante · 08-09-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Dog

I'm looking forward to the .45ACP model.

When I talked to the rep for MKS Supply in December of 2004, he said that they would be out in 90 days. Still waiting.

NRAEric · 08-10-2005, 02:54 PM

So your the NRAJoe that G3 was talking about. Whats wrong with hi points? I know they aren't a glock but still since I don't make much money(I'm not even in college yet) they're about as good as I'm gonna get. Besides I live in New York (I hate pistol permit laws, don't you?).

silentknight · 08-10-2005, 03:30 PM

Are you open to other suggestions? You might want to look into Kel-Tec SUB-2OOO

they are a little more expensive than a Hi Point, but you can get ones that take S&W, Glock, Keltec, Sig or Beretta mags. IMHO they are a better buy than a Hi Point

BattleRifleG3 · 08-10-2005, 04:36 PM

NRAJOE makes fun of Hi-Points because he likes doing it. We joke that he's secretly the owner of the company. He calls us names in return. We all have fun.

NRAEric · 08-10-2005, 04:57 PM

I've got like 400 dollars and I was looking at one of those too. Not a bad idea but I'd like to conserve money if possible. If I find one at a good price maybe I'll buy it.

Big Dog · 08-10-2005, 04:59 PM

For anyone who's tall and long-armed, the Kel-Tec is way too short - to the point of being extremely uncomfortable to shoot. For those of us who like decent adjustable sights, the Kel-Tec sights are an abomination.
Put an optical sight on it, you lose the folding feature, one of it's two major 'features'. The other is it's capability to take high cap mags.

This last is the only good thing it has over the Hi-Point Carbine.

For those on a budget, wanting a good reliable 9mm carbine, the Hi-point is hard to beat.

NRAEric · 08-10-2005, 05:05 PM

Sounds like me. Besides I can't really get high capacity magazines in NY. I could get pre-bans, but I haven't seen those in months. If you can't hit it in the first 10 shots then in most cases your not gonna hit it.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 08-10-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NRAEric

I've got like 400 dollars and I was looking at one of those too. Not a bad idea but I'd like to conserve money if possible. If I find one at a good price maybe I'll buy it.

....for $400 you can get a decent SKS and have some change left over

BattleRifleG3 · 08-10-2005, 07:06 PM

Very true,and the ammo costs less.

SilverRun · 08-10-2005, 09:08 PM

You can get lots better for $400.

NRAEric · 08-10-2005, 09:08 PM

Could I get an AK with that kind of money also?

BattleRifleG3 · 08-10-2005, 11:42 PM

$400? Yes indeed. You can get either a Romanian WASR in one of three calibers, or a Russian Saiga for much less and then cost of parts to convert to standard configuration.

$400 will buy a WASR, tax, a few mags, and a few boxes of ammo. They're generally in the $320-350 range.

silentknight · 08-11-2005, 08:25 AM

Yup, 7.62X39 is the cheapest ammo you can buy (sans .22 lr). You can't beat 13 cents per round! Plus the AK is the most reliable, fun platform out there.

Big Dog · 08-11-2005, 10:39 AM

IMHO, a good $150 unissued Yugo M59/66 will give you better accuracy, be as reliable and certainly as fun as any sub-$400 AK out there. And the extra cash saved buys a couple cases of ammo.
I have a cheaper AK, and while it is fun, I find I like shooting the SKS's far more. Maybe that's why I have three SKS rifles and only one AK too.

Even my Norinco and Sino-Soviet SKS's put the cheap AK to shame.

A top-o-the-line AK may be a whole different ballgame, I'll admit.

myarmor · 08-11-2005, 10:52 AM

Perhaps I am a bit lost. What now exactly are you looking for? A cheap to shoot rifle, or pistol?
Do you want shoot close up with a 9mm, or do you want to shoot a bit farther?
-If you are going for an inexpensive pistol, I say go for a Kel-Tec. Or look around at your local dealer or pawn shop and you can find a used Ruger 9mm for pretty cheap.
-If a rifle is in your sights, then I would say SKS. Or maybe you might want to consider some other Mil. Surplus like a Mosin Nagant, also cheap to shoot.

08-09-2005, 04:06 PM	#1
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (0)	Hi Point carbines Ok, I know hi point is a decent gun. I have a simple question though. What can I use the 9mm for(Besides home defense)? I'd really like to know. Thanks.

08-09-2005, 04:33 PM	#2
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	Shooting paper, shooting small animals, shooting inanimate objects. Yup, that's all I can think of. Welcome to Gunandgame! If you like Hi-points, I have a feeling we'll never see the end of NRAEric vs NRAJoe (who mocks Hi-Points compulsively.) __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-09-2005, 05:35 PM	#5
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,063 Trader Rating: (0)	Boat anchors... too light! flower vases... too skinny! hammers... too soft! I use mine for what it's designed - fun sport shooting! It's a good gun to introduce and train new shooters on too. NRAJoe just doesn't appreciate it's finer qualities. I'm looking forward to the .45ACP model. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

08-10-2005, 03:30 PM	#8
silentknight Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,125 Trader Rating: (0)	Are you open to other suggestions? You might want to look into Kel-Tec SUB-2OOO they are a little more expensive than a Hi Point, but you can get ones that take S&W, Glock, Keltec, Sig or Beretta mags. IMHO they are a better buy than a Hi Point __________________ Sic Vis Pacem Parabellum

08-10-2005, 04:36 PM	#9
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	NRAJOE makes fun of Hi-Points because he likes doing it. We joke that he's secretly the owner of the company. He calls us names in return. We all have fun. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-09-2005, 04:36 PM	#3
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks man. Any other suggestions would be appriciated.

08-10-2005, 02:54 PM	#7
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (0)	So your the NRAJoe that G3 was talking about. Whats wrong with hi points? I know they aren't a glock but still since I don't make much money(I'm not even in college yet) they're about as good as I'm gonna get. Besides I live in New York (I hate pistol permit laws, don't you?).

08-10-2005, 04:57 PM	#10
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (0)	I've got like 400 dollars and I was looking at one of those too. Not a bad idea but I'd like to conserve money if possible. If I find one at a good price maybe I'll buy it.

08-10-2005, 04:59 PM	#11
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,063 Trader Rating: (0)	For anyone who's tall and long-armed, the Kel-Tec is way too short - to the point of being extremely uncomfortable to shoot. For those of us who like decent adjustable sights, the Kel-Tec sights are an abomination. Put an optical sight on it, you lose the folding feature, one of it's two major 'features'. The other is it's capability to take high cap mags. This last is the only good thing it has over the Hi-Point Carbine. For those on a budget, wanting a good reliable 9mm carbine, the Hi-point is hard to beat. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

08-10-2005, 05:05 PM	#12
NRAEric Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (0)	Sounds like me. Besides I can't really get high capacity magazines in NY. I could get pre-bans, but I haven't seen those in months. If you can't hit it in the first 10 shots then in most cases your not gonna hit it.

08-10-2005, 07:06 PM	#14
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	Very true,and the ammo costs less. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-10-2005, 09:08 PM	#15
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,659 Trader Rating: (0)	You can get lots better for $400.

08-10-2005, 11:42 PM	#17
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	$400? Yes indeed. You can get either a Romanian WASR in one of three calibers, or a Russian Saiga for much less and then cost of parts to convert to standard configuration. $400 will buy a WASR, tax, a few mags, and a few boxes of ammo. They're generally in the $320-350 range. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-11-2005, 08:25 AM	#18
silentknight Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,125 Trader Rating: (0)	Yup, 7.62X39 is the cheapest ammo you can buy (sans .22 lr). You can't beat 13 cents per round! Plus the AK is the most reliable, fun platform out there. __________________ Sic Vis Pacem Parabellum

08-11-2005, 10:39 AM	#19
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,063 Trader Rating: (0)	IMHO, a good $150 unissued Yugo M59/66 will give you better accuracy, be as reliable and certainly as fun as any sub-$400 AK out there. And the extra cash saved buys a couple cases of ammo. I have a cheaper AK, and while it is fun, I find I like shooting the SKS's far more. Maybe that's why I have three SKS rifles and only one AK too. Even my Norinco and Sino-Soviet SKS's put the cheap AK to shame. A top-o-the-line AK may be a whole different ballgame, I'll admit. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

08-11-2005, 10:52 AM	#20
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147 Trader Rating: (0)	Perhaps I am a bit lost. What now exactly are you looking for? A cheap to shoot rifle, or pistol? Do you want shoot close up with a 9mm, or do you want to shoot a bit farther? -If you are going for an inexpensive pistol, I say go for a Kel-Tec. Or look around at your local dealer or pawn shop and you can find a used Ruger 9mm for pretty cheap. -If a rifle is in your sights, then I would say SKS. Or maybe you might want to consider some other Mil. Surplus like a Mosin Nagant, also cheap to shoot.