A little disappointed with the NRA thus far - Page 2

08-16-2005, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by troylaplante

High school students go deer hunting before going to school around here.

it's a priority around here too but hunting season doesn't start until November..most schools around here have already started

being a member may not hurt you until you get to the state and national levels but don't be surprised when it does..when it comes down to the popular vote the conservatives are losing ground..but too many eligible voters just can't be bothered to vote..fewer than one in five eligible voters actually goes out of their way to vote

OneInchGroup · 08-16-2005, 06:22 PM

Not wanting to stir you up any further, just wanted to point out that, if your goal is a career in politics, you are going to have to work out a way to respond in a positive way, even to the snide knuckleheads of the world, since that's going to be about 50% of the folks whose votes you are going to be begging for. Of course, going into full attack mode at the slightest, gently humorous, comment should get you back into the private sector pretty quick. Sorry if calling you "pal" offended you, pal. Won't do it again, pal. So, so, sorry

Johan Malan · 08-16-2005, 06:24 PM

I dont want to get involved in our argument but.....The "politically correct" are spineless, ineffective wusses who prefer to determine the wind direction of elitist public opinion before taking a stance.... Fu*kin A man! I agree 100%!! :-)

SPOCAHP ANAR · 08-16-2005, 07:43 PM

Calm down Troy. Call GOA or grassroots NC(?) and explain your situation to them and see if they can help in any way. If they can yank your membership to the NRA and when they call tell them why. The only thing those people understand is $$$$$$$$$$

I can really see why they don't give money out in local races; but they could help in some way by send a memo out to all members in the area; endorsing you etc....

troylaplante · 08-16-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OneInchGroup

Not wanting to stir you up any further, just wanted to point out that, if your goal is a career in politics, you are going to have to work out a way to respond in a positive way, even to the snide knuckleheads of the world, since that's going to be about 50% of the folks whose votes you are going to be begging for. Of course, going into full attack mode at the slightest, gently humorous, comment should get you back into the private sector pretty quick. Sorry if calling you "pal" offended you, pal. Won't do it again, pal. So, so, sorry

Reality check time. There is a huge difference between an internet message board and politics. If you are as knowedgeable on the topic as you say, you would know that. That is common sense.

I don't beg for votes. I never have before, I am not about to start now.

I was not in full attack mode, not even close. Actually, it seems that you were and are. There has not yet been anything of "the slightest, gently humorous, comment" type that was stated yet. What was stated was an outright insult in the middle of a discussion, to which I responded. If you understood politics, you would be able to see that. You obviously ignored most of what I wrote in my last few posts.

troylaplante · 08-16-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OneInchGroup

Sorry if calling you "pal" offended you, pal. Won't do it again, pal. So, so, sorry

No, the term "pal" didn't offend me. It was, however, rather condescending and presumptuous of you to use it. And again. Bite me.

08-16-2005, 08:19 PM

I just don't think they have the resources to help you in your campaign..nor would very many members think it is part of their job to help you get elected

BattleRifleG3 · 08-16-2005, 08:51 PM

There are some things not helpful to discuss over the internet.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 08-16-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Logansdad

nor would very many members think it is part of their job to help you get elected

It is all of everyone's responsibility to get those of like minded poeple elected.

08-16-2005, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

It is all of everyone's responsibility to get those of like minded poeple elected.

then you help him :nod:

SPOCAHP ANAR · 08-16-2005, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Logansdad

then you help him :nod:

I would campaign for him if he was in my hometown......

troylaplante · 08-16-2005, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Logansdad

I just don't think they have the resources to help you in your campaign..nor would very many members think it is part of their job to help you get elected

Sure they have the resources. They have the resources to send me a fundraising letter for a local youth program and ask me to buy a raffle ticket, buy a dinner, and attend an auction, etc. That much has already been dispelled.

As for the other...same thing as the last comment. I don't necessarily think that it is part of my job in life for some youth program that I won't be participating in nor have any family participating in it. What's the difference? There is none. It is not my job to help some congressman in Rhode Island get elected, either, but the NRA will ask me for cash. Same thing.

08-16-2005, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

I would campaign for him if he was in my hometown......

that's how the NRA member in Tanana, Alaska feels..and the Member in Medford, Oregon :insane:

SPOCAHP ANAR · 08-16-2005, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Logansdad

that's how the NRA member in Tanana, Alaska feels..and the Member in Medford, Oregon :insane:

LD it does no good for me to campaign for him in High Point when he lives 2 hrs away. DUH! You're quote misses the point.

What I can do is support organizations that help people who support our ideas and morals with resources in which they can use to their advantage to get elected.

He is right; if the nra can send out donation cards then they surely can send out a list to local members saying Troy supports your rights, please support him. They could have referred him to the local Rep that may have been able to help him devise a strategy. They could have done MORE than they did. If he was looking for a handout, and I don't know that he was, then I can surely understand their position.

OneInchGroup · 08-16-2005, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

LD it does no good for me to campaign for him in High Point when he lives 2 hrs away. DUH! You're quote misses the point.

What I can do is support organizations that help people who support our ideas and morals with resources in which they can use to their advantage to get elected.

He is right; if the nra can send out donation cards then they surely can send out a list to local members saying Troy supports your rights, please support him. They could have referred him to the local Rep that may have been able to help him devise a strategy. They could have done MORE than they did. If he was looking for a handout, and I don't know that he was, then I can surely understand their position.

Could be just that the NRA folks have priorities to adhere to, concentrating effort on state or national issues where the economies of scale make them more effective than expending the same effort and expense on a strictly local action. I'm sure they could make local membership lists available, if proper credentials are presented. NRA headquarters is right near me, so I could have likely called over to chat with the folks (some are pals of mine)there on somebody's behalf, but of course there's kind of a net negative motivation for me to do that, now. Maybe the NRA guys got the same vibe, and beat a fast retreat?

lefty o · 08-17-2005, 12:12 AM

im going to go make popcorn while i watch this thread heat up!

OneInchGroup · 08-17-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lefty o

im going to go make popcorn while i watch this thread heat up!

:flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:

That help any with the popcorn, LeftyO?

Better watch out, terse remarks like that can get you branded as snide (or snyde, for those in San Louis Obispo whose English is a second language) and generally not a nice person, by some old pals of mine 'round here.......

lefty o · 08-17-2005, 12:40 AM

yes that helps. LOL its okay, because im not known as a nice person anyhow.

NorCalAshnjikov · 08-17-2005, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 7mmag6

knock it off norcal

Knock what off?

I wanted to get his story, gave him suggestions,
he just sat there whining like a vague crab (snip snip)
about stuff he could've found out before joining NRA.

Yelling at the sky won't make it rain.

08-17-2005, 05:11 AM

okay I don't send money to the NRA for helping people get elected to town councils..I don't want to say that it's small potatoes but I will..I may just as well have

08-16-2005, 06:22 PM	#22
OneInchGroup Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0)	Any pal of yours is a pal-O-mine????? Not wanting to stir you up any further, just wanted to point out that, if your goal is a career in politics, you are going to have to work out a way to respond in a positive way, even to the snide knuckleheads of the world, since that's going to be about 50% of the folks whose votes you are going to be begging for. Of course, going into full attack mode at the slightest, gently humorous, comment should get you back into the private sector pretty quick. Sorry if calling you "pal" offended you, pal. Won't do it again, pal. So, so, sorry

08-16-2005, 07:43 PM	#24
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,025 Trader Rating: (0)	Calm down Troy. Call GOA or grassroots NC(?) and explain your situation to them and see if they can help in any way. If they can yank your membership to the NRA and when they call tell them why. The only thing those people understand is $$$$$$$$$$ I can really see why they don't give money out in local races; but they could help in some way by send a memo out to all members in the area; endorsing you etc.... __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

08-16-2005, 08:51 PM	#28
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	There are some things not helpful to discuss over the internet. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-16-2005, 06:24 PM	#23
Johan Malan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 302 Trader Rating: (0)	I dont want to get involved in our argument but.....The "politically correct" are spineless, ineffective wusses who prefer to determine the wind direction of elitist public opinion before taking a stance.... Fu*kin A man! I agree 100%!! :-)

08-16-2005, 08:19 PM	#27
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	I just don't think they have the resources to help you in your campaign..nor would very many members think it is part of their job to help you get elected

08-17-2005, 12:12 AM	#36
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,692 Trader Rating: (0)	im going to go make popcorn while i watch this thread heat up!

08-17-2005, 12:40 AM	#38
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,692 Trader Rating: (0)	yes that helps. LOL its okay, because im not known as a nice person anyhow.

08-17-2005, 05:11 AM	#40
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	okay I don't send money to the NRA for helping people get elected to town councils..I don't want to say that it's small potatoes but I will..I may just as well have