In my mind, the right to posess and shoot one's own firearm is a right of passage for a growing young man. (YES, it is a privilege and right, i DO understand that.) but it is also a learning experience. I can't speak from experience as far as firearms go, but I can imagine that any man(or woman), can appreciate a fine firearm. From the aesthetics, to the ergonomics, the pull of the trigger, the sound of the shot, the brass clinking on the ground. Any humble man can appreciate a well oiled machine, firearms included.
The lessons learned from the(proper) use of a firearm, can be applied to life. There cannnot be actions without consequences. As fun as shooting can be, the consequences of this come in the form of maintenance. Cleaning, lubrucating, polishing, scrubbing, etc. '
Maybe a better use of words might be, "order out of chaos".
Just some random babbling to the way my mind works. Take it how u wanna.
Beside the occasional trip to the local gun range, my regular shooting environment will be at my girlfriends property.(10+ acres, and I have her dads expressed permisson)
Their side yard has a stretch of grass the length, maybe, 1.5-2 football fields. It is mostly flat with maybe a 5 degree incline(or decline depending on where ur standing).
Anyway, he has a tarp that he lays out on with army blankets as his shooting "space". Easy cleanup of brass, comfy(as army blankets can be), magazines and equipment dont go wandering, etc. He sets it up around 100yds(or meters? i forget)
for his G3 rifle.
Anyway, point of all that was to describe the enviroment I will most likely be in most of the time.
This leads me to what equipment/accessories I have chosen(at least in theory) for my Ruger 10/22.(if anyone knows these NOT to work on a 10/22, speak up)
Simmons 3-9x32 Scope(anyone know EXACTLY what I need for this setup?)
Harris 6"-9" 1A2-BRM Bipod(anyone know EXACTLY what I need for this setup, too?)
Ruger BX-25 Extended Mags(also getting some extra factory 10rd box mags)
In response to the fact that I should start with iron sights first, my gfs dad said he will NOT allow me to use the scope on my gun on HIS property til im decent with my form, technique and the good ol' iron sights.
In response to the bipod, he wont let me put the bipod legs on the ground til im good enough with the standing, crouching and prone positions withOUT the bipod(prone being the only one affected really)
Ruger 10/22: Sir, in a couple of ways?
I understand his wanting you to be competent, with position, handling
I understand his demanding
I agree; I think? with the use of bipod; and iron sights.
100yds; with .22 is plenty; your angle will ?place you into ricochet territory. ''be careful''
Is this fine gentleman; teaching thru personal experiences
Is this fine gentleman; understanding
Is this fine gentleman; spending the time to observe, with suggestions
Is this fine gentleman; PATIENT
you have well identified your thoughtfull'ness
The ?parts? are what they are; I've identified several reading sources with folks asking your questions; with folks answering with their thoughts.
you are far down this ''road'' with lifetime pleasure, and learning
Continue on ''fine sir'' with any and all your thoughts
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Who refreshes others will be refreshed. Proverbs 11:25
He's probably going to come at you military-style...which means, don't take his direct manner & cussin to heart,
just understand that he's going to make you soldier-functional in a very short amount of time...IF YOU LISTEN & OBEY!!
If you can take orders well, you'll probably get along fine
Consistancy...doing the same thing the same way every time...is what you are seeking.
Control over your breathing, movement...will fall into place. Each person, as they breathe, will move slightly...
you don't have to STOP all movement, just CONTROL it so its just another part of the shot.
Bear in mind, military, especially Infantry/Armor Lifer's are a breed of their own. It takes a special kind of nut to enjoy Infantry Life.
Just soak up all the knowledge you can....and be VERY careful of where you point the weapon at ALL times.
If you sweep him or the daughter with the muzzle, you will loose major face...and it'll be harder than heck to regain.
Remember to thank him after each day at the range.
Good Luck
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I'm not just Trigger Happy, I'm Trigger Ecstatic!!
He's probably going to come at you military-style...which means, don't take his direct manner & cussin to heart,
just understand that he's going to make you soldier-functional in a very short amount of time...IF YOU LISTEN & OBEY!!
If you can take orders well, you'll probably get along fine
Consistancy...doing the same thing the same way every time...is what you are seeking.
Control over your breathing, movement...will fall into place. Each person, as they breathe, will move slightly...
you don't have to STOP all movement, just CONTROL it so its just another part of the shot.
Bear in mind, military, especially Infantry/Armor Lifer's are a breed of their own. It takes a special kind of nut to enjoy Infantry Life.
Just soak up all the knowledge you can....and be VERY careful of where you point the weapon at ALL times.
If you sweep him or the daughter with the muzzle, you will loose major face...and it'll be harder than heck to regain.
Remember to thank him after each day at the range.
Good Luck
He is ex-army.(got his G3 when he cross trained in Germany back in the 80's)
Yes he cusses and yells, but its cuz he cares.
Its really funny u bring up the infantry/armor(er), cuz my gfs dad was the grunt, and my gfs mom was the Armorer.
I couldnt imagine the thought of a an accident happening while my gf was out there...so we might leave it at "male bonding time". She can stay inside. But yes, typical range safety would be the first lesson, along with firearms earning the ultimate respect from the user.
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"1.)Is this fine gentleman; teaching thru personal experiences
2.)Is this fine gentleman; understanding
3.)Is this fine gentleman; spending the time to observe, with suggestions
4.)Is this fine gentleman; PATIENT"
1.) Yes.
2.) Yes.(as much as a gfs dad can be)
3.) Yes. (he wont say it, but he does care)
4.) Yes.(I'd hope so, I've been dating his daughter for over a year.
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Went to Dance's Sporting Goods this morning to see what their Ruger 10/22 models go for. They have several models, but of the two I handled, the price was a reasonable $269.99. So, within maybe 4-8 weeks, Ima walk home with my very own Ruger 10/22. :-) yay
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After doing some more research, I had some concerns, resulting in some more questions.
Whats the difference between "blued" and stainless steel barrels as far as cleaning goes? Ive read that SS doesnt need oiling. Doesn't need oiling as often...but it still needs it on occasion.
What about the receiver? Should I try and get a stainless steel or that mystery black synthetic? If you go stainless barrel, or plan to go that way, go stainless/silver on the receiver as well.
Hardwood stock or mysterious black rubber?
Depends on your mood...to me, synthetic looks better on stainless, but so does Black Stained laminate wood stocks...
Of course, black synth & blued guns with black paint on the receiver looks pretty nice too...
Marlin 795 ($99 with rebate) & a Ramline folding stock & other toys...
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you absolutely still must oil SS used in firearms. alot of people out there are of the understanding that stainless doesnt rust , which is wrong. the SS used in firearms still has a good amount of carbon in it which is highly susceptable to rusting. if oyur looking at the 10/22 still, be aware that the reciever is not stainless, just silver colored aluminum. the barrel is the only SS part on a SS 10/22.
Welcome to G & G. There R a lot of very knoledgeable 22 folks on here, I have and old 10/22 that is still very accurate. This is just my opinion, I am not an expert on the 10/22 but here it goes. First buy just the basic gun, 2nd trigger, "oh buy a gun with wood, not rubber", take the gun to a gunsmith for the trigger job, or new trigger. Have the Gunsmith to turn the barrel back about .100". that is 100 thousandths, and cut a match chamber in it. Cheaper than a new bull barrel. Next is to find a good ammo that the gun likes. U R then well on your way. Any more questions just meet us on the chat room, everyone on there will help U.
with scopes for a rimfire, look for something with an adjustable objective, or one labeled as a rimfire scope. personally i prefer the AO. standard rifle scopes are set to be parralax free at a much further distance than most people consider using a rimfire.
Bigger objective lens do NOT give you a wider field of view. They simply let in more light and allow for a larger exit pupil at higher magnifications. This in turn makes it easier to line up your eye with the scope. For what you are doing a 40 mm objective is enough. As for the 10/22...
The barrel is the single biggest factor in accuracy. You are kinda dancing around the problem until you either have the chamber re cut and the crown re done or buy a drop in match barrel.
As for the bipod there are some folks that make adaptors. My recommendation is get a you a houge overmould stock. Does everything the stock stock does but better and it has built in sling adaptors. Get the .920 barrel groove and a new e.r shaw or green mountain barrel. About 200 bucks all drop in and your rifle will shoot better than you to 200 yds.
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