[Rex in OTZ]

I was wanting to find the diffrent or odd .22Lr handgun and came across this sales add.
.22LR Handguns
seems the .22LR Rock Island is back orderd but the .22Mag is in stock.
http://centerfiresystems.com/22mag_handguns.aspx

[big shrek]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Rex in OTZ

seems the .22LR Rock Island is back orderd but the .22Mag is in stock. .22 Magnum Handguns

That is NOT a .22WMR...that's .22TCM, which is a whole other centerfire animal entirely

Wildcat cartridge made to show off their small-caliber 1911 series.

Here's what you really need to know...
2100 FPS muzzle velocity.
The pistol comes with a 9mm barrel also, mags are the same as 9mm.
Only costs $529-ish.

So basically, the pistol is an inexpensive competitor of the 5.7
And its shorter, fatter, & weighs more...so you'll get more of a SMACK when it hits a body.

But the ammo costs the same as a 5.7, $20 for a box of 50

Sooo...the choice is an inexpensive pistol with blazing fast speed,
or a pricey FN with blazing fast speed.

Carbine versions...FN has the well-known P-90 in 5.7
Reportedly RIA is going to use the MIG22 platform to make a carbine in .22TCM, but its not availible yet

[Rex in OTZ]

still the .22 Lr ad they detail it as a .22Lr not the .22TCM
http://centerfiresystems.com/ac-ri1911-22lr.aspx
1911 XT-22LR Rock Island

•5” Barrel
•.22LR
•Matte Black Finish
•Wood Checkered Grips
•Adjustable Rear Sight
•Dove-tailed Front Sight

yes they slid the .22TCM in the .22Mag quirey shame on centerfire.

[MosinRuger]

Rock Island Armory Introduces First Production .22 TCM Firearm | The Truth About Guns
I think its kinda cool that it uses a 9mm case necked down to a .223 bullet. Pretty interesting if you ask me.

[Tha Dave]

A 9mm necked down to 5.56?? I can see limited uses for such a round a 5.56x45 is barely enough to take deer sized game slowing the round will make it even less effective. Plinking will be a PITA because the ammo would have to be hand loaded. Putting it into a rifle might make it a little better but, I still have a hard time seeing what use someone could have for it that a standard rifle or even pistol round (maybe even a 9mm) comming out of a 16 inch barrel couldnt do better and for cheaper.

On the flip side reloading supplies are a dime a dozen for 9mm and 5.56 and you could get alot of rounds out of a pound of powder.

If you want a .22LR 1911 RAI pistols are about as good as any others that I have fired and cost less in many cases.

[big shrek]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Tha Dave

A 9mm necked down to 5.56?? I can see limited uses for such a round a 5.56x45 is barely enough to take deer sized game slowing the round will make it even less effective. Plinking will be a PITA because the ammo would have to be hand loaded. Putting it into a rifle might make it a little better but, I still have a hard time seeing what use someone could have for it that a standard rifle or even pistol round (maybe even a 9mm) comming out of a 16 inch barrel couldnt do better and for cheaper. On the flip side reloading supplies are a dime a dozen for 9mm and 5.56 and you could get alot of rounds out of a pound of powder. If you want a .22LR 1911 RAI pistols are about as good as any others that I have fired and cost less in many cases.

See, here's the rub...
5.56 is evidently enough to take down a human, in a humane manner (so NATO sez)...and the average human male weighs around 180-200 lbs.
Average whitetail deer weighs about the same...
I'd be nobody would have a problem with using 5.56 on even a 350 lbs. human...
but I'd bet most folks wouldn't use 5.56 on a 350 lb. Mule deer.

So what exactly makes it OK to use 5.56 on a human and NOT on a deer?
Other than they expect to fire multiple rounds at the human...and only ONE shot at the deer


Will .22TCM & FN 5.7 jack someone up?? Oh yeah.
I wouldn't have any problem using either...it'd be a step up from a Grendel P-30 in .22WMR w/30-rds per mag