Advice on a new .22

CNR · 01-14-2005, 12:10 PM

Hello All.

I am looking for input on a new .22. I preffer bolt action guns because I primarily target shoot. My question is what to get? Marlin 980V? Savage Mark 2 FVXP or a Ruger 77/22. All are offered with a haevy barrel. But which has the most freedom for trigger adjustments. Do any have know flaws? I got my father a remington 597 and the mag sticks all the time. I want to avoid issues with my new gun. Any ideas? suggestions? I am looking to get groups of .5 or better at 50 yards.

Thanks
CNR

Shaun · 01-14-2005, 12:34 PM

If you can find one the Marlin 25N bolt action is a tack driver and magazines are cheap

Arby · 01-14-2005, 01:10 PM

See if you can find an old Winchester 52 target. There are several listed on Gunsamerica.

Big Dog · 01-14-2005, 03:28 PM

The Rugers are pricey, and can be iffy on accuracy. The Savage and Marlin will both shoot with it or better, for half the price! It then comes down to preference of 'feel'. I like the Marlin better, and others like the Savage. The Marlin triggers are easy to work on, and both have the capability of being replaced by the superb Riflebasix adjustable triggers. The Savage (IIRC) has the Weaver scope bases included. I don't know about the newest Marlins, but the older ones (pre-900 series) had only the rimfire scope grooves.

If you like older rifles, the Remington 521T and Winchester 75T are still easily found for $300 to $400 for a very nice rifle, and will outshoot the newer rifles.
They are still cheaper than the Ruger, and beat it hands down.

practical · 01-14-2005, 08:29 PM

I've been super happy with my Kimber SVT. It had a trigger job before I got it, but I tried out a stock one and it was still crisp and light.

Mick · 01-15-2005, 01:30 AM

I've got a marlin 25n, I don't do comps with it, but, its about 12 years old and has seen a lot of use and I havn't had a problem with it. A very nice gun and I am sure the new ones are just as good.

G Hollingsworth · 01-15-2005, 06:38 AM

. 5 " at 50.hmmmmm Pay attention to ARBY

Big Dog · 01-15-2005, 09:06 AM

My Winny 75T has done .5" at 100 yards.

But my Marlin 17V has done .3" at the same distance.
My Marlin 25MN in .22WMR shoots consistent 5/8" groups at 100 yards.

Marlins aren't slouches for accuracy!

Gyrene · 01-15-2005, 08:00 PM

Some Ruger 77's shoot well, but none have a competition like trigger, unless you buy an aftermarket trigger for it. I have never seen one that could compete with the Remington 513T, Remington 521T, Remington 541X, H&R Model 12 (5400), the Winchester 75, or the Winchester 52 (Pre A, A, B, C, D or E), or the Mossberg 144 series. The Kimber pre-Gov't .22's built in Oregon (the later ones suffer from productionitis) are very accurate, but expensive.

In fact while the Savage is the best out of the box for accuracy, it can't compete with the rifles I mentioned above, without expensive match conditioning (stock, trigger work, barrel, . . . ), which is the same problem for the Ruger 77, and the Ruger 10/22.

CNR · 01-18-2005, 08:24 AM

Thanks for all the input, I will now have to think it over. I really appreciate it. Thanks again.

CNR

allan1898 · 01-19-2005, 06:19 PM

Don't overlook the CZ 452. I can hold under .5" at 50, under 1" at 100. I shot without the scope at 200 yds, and all were in the black, under 6" (still day). I like the scnabel fore end better than the "American". I bought it for cheap practice-cost $188, and stuck a cheap Simmons scope on it just for the heck of it. I shoot the cheapest 22 ammo I can find in it, and it does just fine. I guess I should try it with some match ammo some day to see what it can really do. But that kind of defeats the purpose for which I bought it. I'm very pleased with it.

CNR · 02-10-2005, 10:44 AM

Well, I ended up going with what my budget would allow. I purchased a Ruger K10 10/22 at Wally's last week. I have not shot it yet. Is there anything I should do to break it in asside from just blasting rounds through it? I want to eventually want to enter local shoot offs, Is there anything that can be done to the trigger to lighten the pull? Smoothing, polishing that sort of thing? Or is the only thing to do is save coin for a Kidd trigger?

Big Dog · 02-10-2005, 11:27 AM

With a Ruger, the first thing you MUST do is strip and clean it - they coat the innards with a heavy syrupy oil for rust protection. This oil must be removed, then lube it very lightly with a good light gun oil or even better a good "dry lube".
Too much lube just gathers crud.
At that point - "shoot that thang!"

A little later, you can try lightening the trigger pull. A better scope base is nice too - I use the Weaver TO-9, which bolts right on top, and allows the regular Weaver rings.

Standard break-in procedure - shoot a 550 round bonus pack of high velocity ammo (Federals are good!) thru it - in one weekend, she's good to go!

CNR · 02-10-2005, 12:04 PM

Thanks Big Dog. Looking forward to shooting this thing this weekend!

dogboy · 02-12-2005, 06:58 PM

if i were you i'd look into the marlin. its trigger is easily adjustable. i don't know if it has any flaws. to get more info, you can go to www.marlinfirearms.com and order a free catalog.also i know that savage bolt actoin .22's aren't sized for adult sized hands.

gunssb · 02-12-2005, 07:32 PM

I don't know what a K10 is ? is it just the standard or a bull barrel. In my (modest) experience with the 10/22 your groups will tend to be off if you take rapid shots since the stock 10/22 barrel heats up too quickly.

aceoftrumps · 02-26-2005, 12:46 PM

I have three 22 rifles.....all Marlin. A model 81 DL.......bought in the 50's. It's been a tack driver since day one. Inherited it from my grandpaw, rest his soul.

I have a Glenfield model 25 I bought at a gun show....with a scope, it's deadly.

My pride and joy is my Marlin model 882 WMR.......shoots like a dream.

As for the clip sticking.......that can be fixed. Two of these rifles are clip fed.....not one minutes trouble with the magnum......but the 25 was hard to remove and hard to put back in. Took off the stock.....noticed the piece to hold the clip was a little off. A little "delicate" handling with a hammer, put the stock back on and try the clip, hammer a little more. Now the clip falls out and a piece of cake to put back in.

Personally, I wouldn't shoot anything but Marlin.

Ace

Aftermath · 06-16-2006, 06:58 PM

found this in a post on another site... never knew this till now... all this time I thought my brother and I had the best !!!! 22 ever made on the planet that we got dirt cheap also.

what is a Glenfield 22 rifle?

Its value is about $35.00-$75.00 dollars in the shooters market. An original scope makes it worth about $85.00 bucks. It was made somewhere between 1962-1975. They where a subcontract gun by Marlin for Sears&Roebuck. It's actually a Marlin model 60. (I happen to own one. With over 200,000 rounds through it it still shoots like a dream. Personally I'd cherish it, she'll out shoot most anything made in the last twenty years!)

troylaplante · 06-16-2006, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogboy

i know that savage bolt actoin .22's aren't sized for adult sized hands.

My big mitts do fine with my Savage.

GLS_okie · 06-24-2006, 04:05 PM

check out the Marlin Model 39

01-14-2005, 12:10 PM	#1
CNR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	Advice on a new .22 Hello All. I am looking for input on a new .22. I preffer bolt action guns because I primarily target shoot. My question is what to get? Marlin 980V? Savage Mark 2 FVXP or a Ruger 77/22. All are offered with a haevy barrel. But which has the most freedom for trigger adjustments. Do any have know flaws? I got my father a remington 597 and the mag sticks all the time. I want to avoid issues with my new gun. Any ideas? suggestions? I am looking to get groups of .5 or better at 50 yards. Thanks CNR

01-14-2005, 12:34 PM	#2
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	If you can find one the Marlin 25N bolt action is a tack driver and magazines are cheap __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

01-14-2005, 01:10 PM	#3
Arby Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Smith Lake,Alabama Posts: 117	See if you can find an old Winchester 52 target. There are several listed on Gunsamerica. __________________ "Anyone willing to sacrifice essential liberty for temporary security, deserves neither!" Ben Franklin

01-14-2005, 03:28 PM	#4
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,208	The Rugers are pricey, and can be iffy on accuracy. The Savage and Marlin will both shoot with it or better, for half the price! It then comes down to preference of 'feel'. I like the Marlin better, and others like the Savage. The Marlin triggers are easy to work on, and both have the capability of being replaced by the superb Riflebasix adjustable triggers. The Savage (IIRC) has the Weaver scope bases included. I don't know about the newest Marlins, but the older ones (pre-900 series) had only the rimfire scope grooves. If you like older rifles, the Remington 521T and Winchester 75T are still easily found for $300 to $400 for a very nice rifle, and will outshoot the newer rifles. They are still cheaper than the Ruger, and beat it hands down. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

01-14-2005, 08:29 PM	#5
practical Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA/Casper, WY Posts: 736	I've been super happy with my Kimber SVT. It had a trigger job before I got it, but I tried out a stock one and it was still crisp and light. __________________ Eric "The secret to life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made"

01-15-2005, 01:30 AM	#6
Mick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Emerald CQLD AUST Posts: 975 Images: 1	I've got a marlin 25n, I don't do comps with it, but, its about 12 years old and has seen a lot of use and I havn't had a problem with it. A very nice gun and I am sure the new ones are just as good. __________________ OzHunter Give me a six-pack and a red dirt open road (Adam Brand)

01-15-2005, 06:38 AM	#7
G Hollingsworth Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 227	. 5 " at 50.hmmmmm Pay attention to ARBY

01-15-2005, 09:06 AM	#8
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,208	My Winny 75T has done .5" at 100 yards. But my Marlin 17V has done .3" at the same distance. My Marlin 25MN in .22WMR shoots consistent 5/8" groups at 100 yards. Marlins aren't slouches for accuracy! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

01-15-2005, 08:00 PM	#9
Gyrene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 886	Some Ruger 77's shoot well, but none have a competition like trigger, unless you buy an aftermarket trigger for it. I have never seen one that could compete with the Remington 513T, Remington 521T, Remington 541X, H&R Model 12 (5400), the Winchester 75, or the Winchester 52 (Pre A, A, B, C, D or E), or the Mossberg 144 series. The Kimber pre-Gov't .22's built in Oregon (the later ones suffer from productionitis) are very accurate, but expensive. In fact while the Savage is the best out of the box for accuracy, it can't compete with the rifles I mentioned above, without expensive match conditioning (stock, trigger work, barrel, . . . ), which is the same problem for the Ruger 77, and the Ruger 10/22. Last edited by Gyrene; 01-15-2005 at 08:04 PM.

01-18-2005, 08:24 AM	#10
CNR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	Thank you Thanks for all the input, I will now have to think it over. I really appreciate it. Thanks again. CNR

01-19-2005, 06:19 PM	#11
allan1898 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 110	Don't overlook the CZ 452. I can hold under .5" at 50, under 1" at 100. I shot without the scope at 200 yds, and all were in the black, under 6" (still day). I like the scnabel fore end better than the "American". I bought it for cheap practice-cost $188, and stuck a cheap Simmons scope on it just for the heck of it. I shoot the cheapest 22 ammo I can find in it, and it does just fine. I guess I should try it with some match ammo some day to see what it can really do. But that kind of defeats the purpose for which I bought it. I'm very pleased with it.

02-10-2005, 10:44 AM	#12
CNR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	Well, I ended up going with what my budget would allow. I purchased a Ruger K10 10/22 at Wally's last week. I have not shot it yet. Is there anything I should do to break it in asside from just blasting rounds through it? I want to eventually want to enter local shoot offs, Is there anything that can be done to the trigger to lighten the pull? Smoothing, polishing that sort of thing? Or is the only thing to do is save coin for a Kidd trigger?

02-10-2005, 11:27 AM	#13
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,208	With a Ruger, the first thing you MUST do is strip and clean it - they coat the innards with a heavy syrupy oil for rust protection. This oil must be removed, then lube it very lightly with a good light gun oil or even better a good "dry lube". Too much lube just gathers crud. At that point - "shoot that thang!" A little later, you can try lightening the trigger pull. A better scope base is nice too - I use the Weaver TO-9, which bolts right on top, and allows the regular Weaver rings. Standard break-in procedure - shoot a 550 round bonus pack of high velocity ammo (Federals are good!) thru it - in one weekend, she's good to go! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

02-10-2005, 12:04 PM	#14
CNR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	Thanks Big Dog. Looking forward to shooting this thing this weekend!

02-12-2005, 06:58 PM	#15
dogboy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 9	if i were you i'd look into the marlin. its trigger is easily adjustable. i don't know if it has any flaws. to get more info, you can go to www.marlinfirearms.com and order a free catalog.also i know that savage bolt actoin .22's aren't sized for adult sized hands.

02-12-2005, 07:32 PM	#16
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833	I don't know what a K10 is ? is it just the standard or a bull barrel. In my (modest) experience with the 10/22 your groups will tend to be off if you take rapid shots since the stock 10/22 barrel heats up too quickly.

02-26-2005, 12:46 PM	#17
aceoftrumps Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 10	22 rifles I have three 22 rifles.....all Marlin. A model 81 DL.......bought in the 50's. It's been a tack driver since day one. Inherited it from my grandpaw, rest his soul. I have a Glenfield model 25 I bought at a gun show....with a scope, it's deadly. My pride and joy is my Marlin model 882 WMR.......shoots like a dream. As for the clip sticking.......that can be fixed. Two of these rifles are clip fed.....not one minutes trouble with the magnum......but the 25 was hard to remove and hard to put back in. Took off the stock.....noticed the piece to hold the clip was a little off. A little "delicate" handling with a hammer, put the stock back on and try the clip, hammer a little more. Now the clip falls out and a piece of cake to put back in. Personally, I wouldn't shoot anything but Marlin. Ace

06-16-2006, 06:58 PM	#18
Aftermath Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10	found this in a post on another site... never knew this till now... all this time I thought my brother and I had the best !!!! 22 ever made on the planet that we got dirt cheap also. what is a Glenfield 22 rifle? Its value is about $35.00-$75.00 dollars in the shooters market. An original scope makes it worth about $85.00 bucks. It was made somewhere between 1962-1975. They where a subcontract gun by Marlin for Sears&Roebuck. It's actually a Marlin model 60. (I happen to own one. With over 200,000 rounds through it it still shoots like a dream. Personally I'd cherish it, she'll out shoot most anything made in the last twenty years!)

06-24-2006, 04:05 PM	#20
GLS_okie Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 60	check out the Marlin Model 39