Target Pistols

sillybilly5015 · 01-01-2006, 04:09 PM

Hi, I currently have a Ruger 22/45 P512. I have been looking at the Beretta U22 Neos with a 7.5 inch barrel, but after reading forums and such I dont know if it is such a good gun. I have been seeing alot of people recomend a Ruger MarkII, and that makes me wonder if I should just keep my Ruger 22/45. I am not sure what the difference is between the 22/45 and the MarkII...they seem to be the same gun to me. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks

ash · 01-01-2006, 04:56 PM

It's seems to me that you have a nice pistol there. What do want the new pistol for?

jerry · 01-01-2006, 05:25 PM

Is your gun not shooting as expected?
What are your typical 25 yard groups?
Does it function properly?
Do you want to just try something different?

troylaplante · 01-01-2006, 06:40 PM

The difference between the Mark II and the 22/45 is basically that the 22/45 has a little more polymer and has a grip style more like the 1911, hence the model number (.22 caliber, .45 grip style). I understand that they disassemble a little differently, but I haven't had both with which to compare. I have a 22/45, as well.

lefty o · 01-02-2006, 11:59 AM

all the Neos's ive seen were lacking in the accuracy department.

mark8252 · 01-13-2006, 11:06 PM

I have a Mark II KMK512, a 5 1/2 22/45, and a Buckmark 5 1/2 Pro Target.
The best in my opinion is the Buckmark.
I would not even consider a Neos.
But then that just me.

troylaplante · 01-14-2006, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark8252

I would not even consider a Neos.
But then that just me.

I think I would, but not if I had to pick just one. I would get one just for the fun of having another one.

Bull Barrel · 01-20-2006, 07:39 PM

I am shooting a Mark III and a Buck Mark Rifle and I think the build quality of the all steel Ruger excedes that of the Browning except for the the trigger feel--it has a surprise break while the Browning is more distinct--that said the Ruger is a Champeen Bowling Pin Slayer (4 doubletaps in 4.6 seconds for instance) with a Bushnell Holo Sight. The ejection port on the Buck Mark (Rifle or Pistol) is basically wide open which can be a nuisance during rapid fire as sparks are flying across the top of your (right) index finger. The Ruger on the other hand has a beveled oval ejection port that in no way distracts your attention from ripping 10 rounds downrange in a few seconds.

I was appalled that Browning saw fit to glue the metal pads onto the safety and slide release levers--mine fell off after a few hundred rounds with careful handling and storage in a foam case. For a $500 rifle to be glued together in any respect is unacceptable. If it wasn't for the fact that it is a truly remarkable firearm in all other regards--no jams--accurate to 100 yards with the Holo Sight--perfect trigger--gorgeous stock and grips--extremely tough "parkerized" finish--bull barrel (of course)--factory mounted picatinny rail--I would be upset, but instead I just keep shooting it.

The Browning pistols I have handled are definitely lighter in the hand than the bull barrel Ruger--but the Ruger is much stouter with a better positioned mag release (IMO) and safer safety (mag out it won't fire) that is is somewhat easier to engage and disengage while staying on target. I would think the new Ruger Hunter in Stainless with the long fluted barrel would be "different" in a good way from the 22/45. However, the grip angle, etc are far different from the 45, so if part of the reason you like the 22/45 is that feel then a Browning plinker might be the way to go.

01-01-2006, 04:09 PM	#1
sillybilly5015 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5	Target Pistols Hi, I currently have a Ruger 22/45 P512. I have been looking at the Beretta U22 Neos with a 7.5 inch barrel, but after reading forums and such I dont know if it is such a good gun. I have been seeing alot of people recomend a Ruger MarkII, and that makes me wonder if I should just keep my Ruger 22/45. I am not sure what the difference is between the 22/45 and the MarkII...they seem to be the same gun to me. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks

01-01-2006, 05:25 PM	#3
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,871 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Is your gun not shooting as expected? What are your typical 25 yard groups? Does it function properly? Do you want to just try something different? __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

01-13-2006, 11:06 PM	#6
mark8252 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 180	Neos?? I have a Mark II KMK512, a 5 1/2 22/45, and a Buckmark 5 1/2 Pro Target. The best in my opinion is the Buckmark. I would not even consider a Neos. But then that just me.

01-20-2006, 07:39 PM	#8
Bull Barrel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia Posts: 239	I am shooting a Mark III and a Buck Mark Rifle and I think the build quality of the all steel Ruger excedes that of the Browning except for the the trigger feel--it has a surprise break while the Browning is more distinct--that said the Ruger is a Champeen Bowling Pin Slayer (4 doubletaps in 4.6 seconds for instance) with a Bushnell Holo Sight. The ejection port on the Buck Mark (Rifle or Pistol) is basically wide open which can be a nuisance during rapid fire as sparks are flying across the top of your (right) index finger. The Ruger on the other hand has a beveled oval ejection port that in no way distracts your attention from ripping 10 rounds downrange in a few seconds. I was appalled that Browning saw fit to glue the metal pads onto the safety and slide release levers--mine fell off after a few hundred rounds with careful handling and storage in a foam case. For a $500 rifle to be glued together in any respect is unacceptable. If it wasn't for the fact that it is a truly remarkable firearm in all other regards--no jams--accurate to 100 yards with the Holo Sight--perfect trigger--gorgeous stock and grips--extremely tough "parkerized" finish--bull barrel (of course)--factory mounted picatinny rail--I would be upset, but instead I just keep shooting it. The Browning pistols I have handled are definitely lighter in the hand than the bull barrel Ruger--but the Ruger is much stouter with a better positioned mag release (IMO) and safer safety (mag out it won't fire) that is is somewhat easier to engage and disengage while staying on target. I would think the new Ruger Hunter in Stainless with the long fluted barrel would be "different" in a good way from the 22/45. However, the grip angle, etc are far different from the 45, so if part of the reason you like the 22/45 is that feel then a Browning plinker might be the way to go. __________________ Beautiful Noisy Deadly Machines--What's Not to Like? :assult: Last edited by Bull Barrel; 01-20-2006 at 07:47 PM.

01-01-2006, 04:56 PM	#2
ash Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 934 Images: 3	It's seems to me that you have a nice pistol there. What do want the new pistol for?

01-01-2006, 06:40 PM	#4
troylaplante Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Selma, NC Posts: 2,223	The difference between the Mark II and the 22/45 is basically that the 22/45 has a little more polymer and has a grip style more like the 1911, hence the model number (.22 caliber, .45 grip style). I understand that they disassemble a little differently, but I haven't had both with which to compare. I have a 22/45, as well.

01-02-2006, 11:59 AM	#5
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,786	all the Neos's ive seen were lacking in the accuracy department.