Rifle/shotgun combo

NHmsj · 10-22-2007, 02:44 PM

I'm seriously interested in putting my hands on an over/under rifle/shotgun combo. I've read up a bit on the Remington SPR94 22lr/.410 and pretty much think I want to go with it. However, before I do, I'd love to hear what others think about this gun - or any other combo for that matter. Anyone have any advice or insight they'd care to share on this matter, and the SPR94 in particular?

rfc357 · 10-22-2007, 07:06 PM

Combination guns are compromises. I had a Savage O/U .22/20 guage. The trigger was not good enough to produce any real accuracy with the .22. These guns are attractive for survival use, but are not really satisfactory for anything else.

European combination guns are much higher quality than US guns, at a much higher prce.

No experience with the Remington. You get what you pay for.

Triggerjerk · 10-22-2007, 07:13 PM

I personally do not care for the concept...but if I was gonna get one I'd go for a 20 gauge.

SilentSoul · 10-22-2007, 07:27 PM

I do not really see the point. I would rather have a good quality .22 and shotgun, than a mediocre combo that I cannot hit anything with.

dtk1952 · 10-12-2009, 07:18 PM

I had a Savage 24 in .22 magnum over 20 gauge at one time. This was back in the late 1960's. As far as I was concerned it was an excellent firearm. More dove and quail hit the frying pan with this shotgun than any other shotgun I've ever had. And many a squirrel, rabbit have also hit the frying pan using the rifle. Even though these other folks say that it is mediocre, I wish that I still had mine. Mine was well made, trigger crisp and easy selection of which barrel to fire. Now they cost too much to think about buying a used one.

nathangdad · 10-13-2009, 05:10 PM

rifle/shotgun combos are interesting. Savage has made a great many of them over the years. They do have a history of getting the job done at shorter ranges such as on a farm or perhaps in dense woods.

However, they are not exactly a big success in longer range shooting situations. I rather think the amount of money it would take to build in this type precision would make the gun cost prohibitive for the customers.

So, if it is short range (and I do mean short range), this type gun might be a winner for you. Just do not expect too much from it in other hunting/shooting situations.

madcratebuilder · 10-14-2009, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtk1952

I had a Savage 24 in .22 magnum over 20 gauge at one time. This was back in the late 1960's. As far as I was concerned it was an excellent firearm. More dove and quail hit the frying pan with this shotgun than any other shotgun I've ever had. And many a squirrel, rabbit have also hit the frying pan using the rifle. Even though these other folks say that it is mediocre, I wish that I still had mine. Mine was well made, trigger crisp and easy selection of which barrel to fire. Now they cost too much to think about buying a used one.

Same gun, same experiences. Can't think of a better gun for varmint birds.

Pope130 · 10-14-2009, 10:15 AM

I'm quite happy with my Savage. It's a 24V, 22Mag over 410, 1964 production. I use it for varmint and camp shooting where the longest sight line is about 75 yards. Handy, accurate and completely reliable.

Robert

srt 10 jimbo · 10-14-2009, 10:47 AM

Had a Savage 22lr/.410 when I was 10 years old. Great little gun.

SwedeSteve · 10-17-2009, 11:08 AM

I had a Savage M24 as a young boy, and have one now. Mine shoots well and is minute of rabbit.

Tack Driver · 10-17-2009, 09:06 PM

I saw a Savage 24F .223 Rem/12 gauge combo in the local gun store. I can't imagine a better coyote gun if you could only bring one firearm. Best thing you can do is have your rifle in hand and your shotgun right beside you in case they come in really close, really fast, but if I could only bring one it would be that Savage 24F. Great survival gun as well.

SwedeSteve · 10-30-2009, 02:24 PM

I think the 22Mag/20Ga would be an ideal trade-off as far as power vs weight.

DaTeacha · 10-30-2009, 02:45 PM

I almost bought a drilling at a show years ago. Rimfire, centerfire, and shotgun, with the rimfire barrel to the side and the shotgun barrel below. It was pretty fancy, and the calibers were strange to me, some European mix with which I was not familiar.

Had a .22/410 Savage. I agree, it's a nice piece.

Cyrano · 10-30-2009, 02:50 PM

I think Tack may have the right caliber combo for a survival gun setup. If you're someplace where there are deer (and what suburban environment doesn't have the damned things, these days? the clearance we do to build home creates an ideal 'edge' environment for them), you could use a 12 gauge slug to take them, and the .223 would do for things like woodchuck, rabbit, squirrel and similar small game. Plus, of course, you'd have the 12 gauge barrel for game birds with birdshot.

Tack, does the Savage 24F come with ghost ring sights?

SwedeSteve · 10-30-2009, 09:20 PM

Nope, but it would be easy to put one on.

Dempsey · 11-01-2009, 05:32 AM

The Savage M24 is the best compromise gun out there. Yup, it is a compromise.
But in my humble opinion, it is a good one.

I have several, but my favorite is the shorter M 24C, (Camper).
.22 LR/20 gauge 3 " improved. OA length is 35.5 inches.

No single gun is more versatile.

There is a reason few are ever sold....

-Dempsey

SwedeSteve · 11-01-2009, 04:53 PM

Can't argue with that.

squirrelblaster · 11-01-2009, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dempsey

The Savage M24 is the best compromise gun out there. Yup, it is a compromise.
But in my humble opinion, it is a good one.

I have several, but my favorite is the shorter M 24C, (Camper).
.22 LR/20 gauge 3 " improved. OA length is 35.5 inches.

No single gun is more versatile.

There is a reason few are ever sold....

-Dempsey

+1 i agree with this very much

and i want one so bad.... but only one ive found localy was beat up so bad it was not worth getting

ALR · 11-01-2009, 08:37 PM

I have a 22lr/20ga Savage O/U, 22 is very accurate with the open sights using Super X. Shotgun is very accurate using sights, shoots right on!
Might keep in jeep for GP.
Bought it from my Mom when my dad died of cancer.

ke4sky · 11-19-2009, 10:59 AM

I have a Savage Model 24C "Camper's Special" with 20 inch barrels, .22 LR over a cylinder bore, 20-ga. with 2-3/4 inch chamber. It has been our hunting camp utility gun for many years and has bagged lots of small game and birds, as well as multitudes of varmints and errant empty food cans.

The .22 LR barrel is accurate enough for what it is. You can hit a soup can at 50 yards with the open sights any time you want. Firing deliberately off the bench at 50 yards it groups about 2 inches with high velocity solids and a bit better with the subsonic stuff.

The 20-ga. barrel patterns effectively for hunting small game and birds at short woods ranges within 25-30 yards. A short barrel with open choke is easier to hit grouse and woodcock with than a longer, tighter-choked gun. The cylinder bore shoots skeet patterns, so shot no larger than #6 (225 pellets per ounce) should be used to ensure adequate pattern density for small game. For birds either 7/8 oz. of No. 8 or 1 ounce of 7-1/2 which give a pellet count of about 350 per shell are best.

Brenneke 2-3/4 inch slugs are most accurate, but this brand is hard to find in other than 3 inch. Slugs fired in the shotgun barrel strike low if you use the narrow front blade of the sight using the same sight picture you would with the .22. So ignore the narrow blade and instead bring the triangular base of the front sight up into the rear notch, then slugs shoot to point of aim. The Brennekes shoot 3 inch groups or less at 50 yards, Winchester about 4 inches and Remingtons or Federals will only stay in a bucket.

The only 20-ga. buckshot load available in the 2-3/4 inch length is 20 pellets of #3 buck. In the cylinder bore this load doesn't pattern tightly enough for deer beyond about 15-20 yards, but it would be an effective close-in defensive load. The longer barrel Model 24DL has a full choke and might be better foor some users, but I am happy with the cylinder bore.

Later Savage 24-Vs were offered in center-fire rifle calibers such as the .357 Magnum, .30-30 or .222 Remington in the top barrel with either a 3-inch magnum 20-ga. or 12-ga. barrel underneath. Some of the 12-ga. versions were offered with screw-in chokes. I would love to find one.

If you want a combination gun for your hunting camp or aircraft survival kit the Savage 24 is the best there is.

10-22-2007, 02:44 PM	#1
NHmsj Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 187	Rifle/shotgun combo I'm seriously interested in putting my hands on an over/under rifle/shotgun combo. I've read up a bit on the Remington SPR94 22lr/.410 and pretty much think I want to go with it. However, before I do, I'd love to hear what others think about this gun - or any other combo for that matter. Anyone have any advice or insight they'd care to share on this matter, and the SPR94 in particular?

10-12-2009, 07:18 PM	#5
dtk1952 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SW MO Posts: 1	I had a Savage 24 in .22 magnum over 20 gauge at one time. This was back in the late 1960's. As far as I was concerned it was an excellent firearm. More dove and quail hit the frying pan with this shotgun than any other shotgun I've ever had. And many a squirrel, rabbit have also hit the frying pan using the rifle. Even though these other folks say that it is mediocre, I wish that I still had mine. Mine was well made, trigger crisp and easy selection of which barrel to fire. Now they cost too much to think about buying a used one.
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10-13-2009, 05:10 PM	#6
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,170	In general, rifle/shotgun combos are interesting. Savage has made a great many of them over the years. They do have a history of getting the job done at shorter ranges such as on a farm or perhaps in dense woods. However, they are not exactly a big success in longer range shooting situations. I rather think the amount of money it would take to build in this type precision would make the gun cost prohibitive for the customers. So, if it is short range (and I do mean short range), this type gun might be a winner for you. Just do not expect too much from it in other hunting/shooting situations.
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10-14-2009, 10:47 AM	#9
srt 10 jimbo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 300	Had a Savage 22lr/.410 when I was 10 years old. Great little gun. __________________

10-17-2009, 11:08 AM	#10
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,571 Images: 1	I had a Savage M24 as a young boy, and have one now. Mine shoots well and is minute of rabbit. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers
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10-22-2007, 07:06 PM	#2
rfc357 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 741	Combination guns are compromises. I had a Savage O/U .22/20 guage. The trigger was not good enough to produce any real accuracy with the .22. These guns are attractive for survival use, but are not really satisfactory for anything else. European combination guns are much higher quality than US guns, at a much higher prce. No experience with the Remington. You get what you pay for.

10-22-2007, 07:13 PM	#3
Triggerjerk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 978	I personally do not care for the concept...but if I was gonna get one I'd go for a 20 gauge. __________________ We old dogs can learn new tricks. We just may not like performng them. TJ

10-22-2007, 07:27 PM	#4
SilentSoul Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 631	I do not really see the point. I would rather have a good quality .22 and shotgun, than a mediocre combo that I cannot hit anything with.

10-14-2009, 10:15 AM	#8
Pope130 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 314	I'm quite happy with my Savage. It's a 24V, 22Mag over 410, 1964 production. I use it for varmint and camp shooting where the longest sight line is about 75 yards. Handy, accurate and completely reliable. Robert

10-17-2009, 09:06 PM	#11
Tack Driver Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Caswell County, NC Posts: 392	I saw a Savage 24F .223 Rem/12 gauge combo in the local gun store. I can't imagine a better coyote gun if you could only bring one firearm. Best thing you can do is have your rifle in hand and your shotgun right beside you in case they come in really close, really fast, but if I could only bring one it would be that Savage 24F. Great survival gun as well. __________________ If pro is the opposite of con, is Congress the opposite of progress?

10-30-2009, 02:24 PM	#12
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,571 Images: 1	I think the 22Mag/20Ga would be an ideal trade-off as far as power vs weight. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

10-30-2009, 02:45 PM	#13
DaTeacha Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: near Funk, Ohio Posts: 2,913	I almost bought a drilling at a show years ago. Rimfire, centerfire, and shotgun, with the rimfire barrel to the side and the shotgun barrel below. It was pretty fancy, and the calibers were strange to me, some European mix with which I was not familiar. Had a .22/410 Savage. I agree, it's a nice piece. __________________ Teach NRA -- If you're reading this, you should be a member. United, We Stand.

10-30-2009, 02:50 PM	#14
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 6,928	I think Tack may have the right caliber combo for a survival gun setup. If you're someplace where there are deer (and what suburban environment doesn't have the damned things, these days? the clearance we do to build home creates an ideal 'edge' environment for them), you could use a 12 gauge slug to take them, and the .223 would do for things like woodchuck, rabbit, squirrel and similar small game. Plus, of course, you'd have the 12 gauge barrel for game birds with birdshot. Tack, does the Savage 24F come with ghost ring sights?

10-30-2009, 09:20 PM	#15
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,571 Images: 1	Nope, but it would be easy to put one on. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

11-01-2009, 05:32 AM	#16
Dempsey Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Wisconsin Posts: 5	The Savage M24 is the best compromise gun out there. Yup, it is a compromise. But in my humble opinion, it is a good one. I have several, but my favorite is the shorter M 24C, (Camper). .22 LR/20 gauge 3 " improved. OA length is 35.5 inches. No single gun is more versatile. There is a reason few are ever sold.... -Dempsey
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11-01-2009, 04:53 PM	#17
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,571 Images: 1	Can't argue with that. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

11-01-2009, 08:37 PM	#19
ALR STAIN'ALIVE,STAIN'ALIVE! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: St Charles MO Posts: 901	I have a 22lr/20ga Savage O/U, 22 is very accurate with the open sights using Super X. Shotgun is very accurate using sights, shoots right on! Might keep in jeep for GP. Bought it from my Mom when my dad died of cancer. __________________ AGENT ORANGE The last ghost of Vietnam ATF- Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, where are the chips?

11-19-2009, 10:59 AM	#20
ke4sky Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 104	I have a Savage Model 24C "Camper's Special" with 20 inch barrels, .22 LR over a cylinder bore, 20-ga. with 2-3/4 inch chamber. It has been our hunting camp utility gun for many years and has bagged lots of small game and birds, as well as multitudes of varmints and errant empty food cans. The .22 LR barrel is accurate enough for what it is. You can hit a soup can at 50 yards with the open sights any time you want. Firing deliberately off the bench at 50 yards it groups about 2 inches with high velocity solids and a bit better with the subsonic stuff. The 20-ga. barrel patterns effectively for hunting small game and birds at short woods ranges within 25-30 yards. A short barrel with open choke is easier to hit grouse and woodcock with than a longer, tighter-choked gun. The cylinder bore shoots skeet patterns, so shot no larger than #6 (225 pellets per ounce) should be used to ensure adequate pattern density for small game. For birds either 7/8 oz. of No. 8 or 1 ounce of 7-1/2 which give a pellet count of about 350 per shell are best. Brenneke 2-3/4 inch slugs are most accurate, but this brand is hard to find in other than 3 inch. Slugs fired in the shotgun barrel strike low if you use the narrow front blade of the sight using the same sight picture you would with the .22. So ignore the narrow blade and instead bring the triangular base of the front sight up into the rear notch, then slugs shoot to point of aim. The Brennekes shoot 3 inch groups or less at 50 yards, Winchester about 4 inches and Remingtons or Federals will only stay in a bucket. The only 20-ga. buckshot load available in the 2-3/4 inch length is 20 pellets of #3 buck. In the cylinder bore this load doesn't pattern tightly enough for deer beyond about 15-20 yards, but it would be an effective close-in defensive load. The longer barrel Model 24DL has a full choke and might be better foor some users, but I am happy with the cylinder bore. Later Savage 24-Vs were offered in center-fire rifle calibers such as the .357 Magnum, .30-30 or .222 Remington in the top barrel with either a 3-inch magnum 20-ga. or 12-ga. barrel underneath. Some of the 12-ga. versions were offered with screw-in chokes. I would love to find one. If you want a combination gun for your hunting camp or aircraft survival kit the Savage 24 is the best there is. Last edited by ke4sky; 11-19-2009 at 11:02 AM.