is it ok to run a bore brush through a .22

scoutman · 10-27-2007, 02:10 PM

i was wondering if a person could run a bore brush through a .22 barrel. because dont they have very Delicate rifling i have this bore snake that i want to use to clean the barrel. the gun i plan on cleaning is an older style marlin model 60, and i have read that you should not clean the barrels on them untill the barrel gets so bad that your paturns start to open up which i have noticed after about 2500 rounds thur it at about 25 yards the paturns are about 1.5 in' with a scope

samuel · 10-27-2007, 02:16 PM

Forget what you heard and clean that poor unfortunate rifle.That boresnake with nylon bristles wont hurt the bore unless you let it get dirty. sam.

toolman · 10-27-2007, 02:30 PM

As long as it's not a stainless brush. I've been scrubbing mine for 30 yrs. and it shoots as well now as it did in 1975 when I got it.

billy · 10-27-2007, 03:23 PM

the cleaning rod hitting the muzzle will do more damage than 100 years of brass brush

Big Dog · 10-27-2007, 03:37 PM

You can use it, but it's best only when it really needs it. During normal use and cleaning, a simple oiled patch on a slotted plastic or brass tip is best, and preferably from the receiver end. If care is taken, then crown damage isn't an issue even from the muzzle end.
I only clean my rimfire's bore when they get dirty enough to affect accuracy. The action gets cleaned and lubed more often.
Mine generally see a brush ONLY when I first get it to clean the crud out the prior owner left in, or if it has rust in it.
Thirty years later (for some), my rimfires are still shooting well.

Of course, CF's are a different matter.

.22guy · 10-27-2007, 06:17 PM

Use the boresnake and a patchworm to clean what the boresnake leaves behind.

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scoutman · 10-27-2007, 09:54 PM

i was cleaning the barrel out when i decided i should clean the action out so i took the action out and bolt cleaned them. i know im not suppose to take the trigger assembly apart because it i very complicated to reassemble but i did not plan on it completly snaping apart when i was just taking out the bullet feeding block so in plain english i need to know how to put it back together! all i need is a few good clear pictures and i should be good. if someone knows where to find them it would be a great help!!

jashoffa · 10-27-2007, 11:09 PM

I love the boresnake. I have trying to pick one up here and there so I have one for each gun. I think they are perfect for .22s. Like it was said before the brass bore brush isn't the issue it is the cleaning rod. No rod with he boresnake so you are good to go. I like to take the boresnake with me to the range and run a few passes with that after I get done shooting. Later I spray some solvent in the barrel and repeat and at that time I clean the action. I have noticed on my shotguns that after heavy fouliing in the barrel the boresnake needs many passes to get clean or what I do is go back to the old rod and brush to get it up to snuff. That is only once in a while. For normal cleaning the boresnake is great!

pball942 · 10-28-2007, 05:40 AM

Hope these help Scoutman Marlin Model 60 Disassembly
Marlin and Glenfield Model 60 Rifles

That was the best I could find.

samuel · 10-28-2007, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pball942

Hope these help Scoutman Marlin Model 60 Disassembly
Marlin and Glenfield Model 60 Rifles

That was the best I could find.

No place in this I see tells about the trigger mechanism.The big secret on it is where the hammer spring and guide go through the little holder for the guide on the bottom side.Pull the hammer back to full cock and you will seea hole in the guide just below the guide holder.I take a straightened paperclip and bend it 90degrees about 3/16 of an inch from the end and put it in the hole in the guide and trip the hammer.This takes the tension off the hammer and the rest of the springs are simple to handle.Someplace I posted about this about a month ago in more detail.If you cant find it and have trouble let me know. sam.

scoutman · 10-28-2007, 12:40 PM

wow the trigger assembley can a be a real bear to reassemble it took me 4 hours to put it together with out any instuructions. The major difficulty is puting the #28 spring back where it goes but now the gun is completly clean. And no place would have any instructions on how to put it together because of how hard it is no body wants to try.

is it possible to put a last shot bolt hold open mechanisum on a 60 that does not have one

Big Dog · 10-28-2007, 09:02 PM

". . . is it possible to put a last shot bolt hold open mechanisum on a 60 that does not have one"

Sure - replace the entire lower receiver unit, and the trigger guard.

Might need some minor stock inletting too - I'd have to look at mine to be sure.

The cost of the parts would probably equal a new gun though. I'd leave it alone.

DWARREN123 · 10-29-2007, 04:04 PM

Yes it is okay. Most do not need much bore cleaning since 22lr bullets are soft lead unless the bore leads up. Most damage done to firearms is due to improper cleaning, i.e. rod rubbing against muzzle.
Do wipe down/lightly lube the action and trigger group/assembly.

gunney_m · 10-29-2007, 04:11 PM

I have forever and had no problems, just dont get carried away.

BPierce · 11-12-2007, 12:03 PM

Practices to avoid.

Aluminum rod from the muzzle

(jointed rods are the worst)

Too frequent cleaning

Letting crud build up on the rod

(acts as an abrasive-wipe it frequently)

cleaning from the muzzle
(If you have to, see the above 3)

Steel brush

10-27-2007, 02:10 PM	#1
scoutman Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 201	is it ok to run a bore brush through a .22 i was wondering if a person could run a bore brush through a .22 barrel. because dont they have very Delicate rifling i have this bore snake that i want to use to clean the barrel. the gun i plan on cleaning is an older style marlin model 60, and i have read that you should not clean the barrels on them untill the barrel gets so bad that your paturns start to open up which i have noticed after about 2500 rounds thur it at about 25 yards the paturns are about 1.5 in' with a scope __________________ god made all man, but Samuel Colt made all man equal Last edited by scoutman; 10-27-2007 at 02:12 PM.

10-27-2007, 02:30 PM	#3
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,608 Blog Entries: 22	As long as it's not a stainless brush. I've been scrubbing mine for 30 yrs. and it shoots as well now as it did in 1975 when I got it. __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

10-27-2007, 03:23 PM	#4
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,406 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	the cleaning rod hitting the muzzle will do more damage than 100 years of brass brush __________________

10-27-2007, 03:37 PM	#5
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,228	You can use it, but it's best only when it really needs it. During normal use and cleaning, a simple oiled patch on a slotted plastic or brass tip is best, and preferably from the receiver end. If care is taken, then crown damage isn't an issue even from the muzzle end. I only clean my rimfire's bore when they get dirty enough to affect accuracy. The action gets cleaned and lubed more often. Mine generally see a brush ONLY when I first get it to clean the crud out the prior owner left in, or if it has rust in it. Thirty years later (for some), my rimfires are still shooting well. Of course, CF's are a different matter. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

10-27-2007, 06:17 PM	#6
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,166	Use the boresnake and a patchworm to clean what the boresnake leaves behind. 20/20 Concepts shooting accessories __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

10-27-2007, 02:16 PM	#2
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	Forget what you heard and clean that poor unfortunate rifle.That boresnake with nylon bristles wont hurt the bore unless you let it get dirty. sam. Last edited by samuel; 10-27-2007 at 02:19 PM.

10-27-2007, 09:54 PM	#7
scoutman Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 201	i was cleaning the barrel out when i decided i should clean the action out so i took the action out and bolt cleaned them. i know im not suppose to take the trigger assembly apart because it i very complicated to reassemble but i did not plan on it completly snaping apart when i was just taking out the bullet feeding block so in plain english i need to know how to put it back together! all i need is a few good clear pictures and i should be good. if someone knows where to find them it would be a great help!! __________________ god made all man, but Samuel Colt made all man equal

10-27-2007, 11:09 PM	#8
jashoffa Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 414	I love the boresnake. I have trying to pick one up here and there so I have one for each gun. I think they are perfect for .22s. Like it was said before the brass bore brush isn't the issue it is the cleaning rod. No rod with he boresnake so you are good to go. I like to take the boresnake with me to the range and run a few passes with that after I get done shooting. Later I spray some solvent in the barrel and repeat and at that time I clean the action. I have noticed on my shotguns that after heavy fouliing in the barrel the boresnake needs many passes to get clean or what I do is go back to the old rod and brush to get it up to snuff. That is only once in a while. For normal cleaning the boresnake is great! __________________ "I don't go shooting without my guns and they don't go shooting without me!" Member NRA

10-28-2007, 05:40 AM	#9
pball942 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 256	Hope these help Scoutman Marlin Model 60 Disassembly Marlin and Glenfield Model 60 Rifles That was the best I could find. __________________ Running is not a plan. Running is what you do when your plan fails.

10-28-2007, 12:40 PM	#11
scoutman Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 201	wow the trigger assembley can a be a real bear to reassemble it took me 4 hours to put it together with out any instuructions. The major difficulty is puting the #28 spring back where it goes but now the gun is completly clean. And no place would have any instructions on how to put it together because of how hard it is no body wants to try. is it possible to put a last shot bolt hold open mechanisum on a 60 that does not have one __________________ god made all man, but Samuel Colt made all man equal Last edited by scoutman; 10-28-2007 at 12:47 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

10-28-2007, 09:02 PM	#12
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,228	". . . is it possible to put a last shot bolt hold open mechanisum on a 60 that does not have one" Sure - replace the entire lower receiver unit, and the trigger guard. Might need some minor stock inletting too - I'd have to look at mine to be sure. The cost of the parts would probably equal a new gun though. I'd leave it alone. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

10-29-2007, 04:04 PM	#13
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 781	Yes it is okay. Most do not need much bore cleaning since 22lr bullets are soft lead unless the bore leads up. Most damage done to firearms is due to improper cleaning, i.e. rod rubbing against muzzle. Do wipe down/lightly lube the action and trigger group/assembly. __________________ Have a nice day!

10-29-2007, 04:11 PM	#14
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931	I have forever and had no problems, just dont get carried away.

11-12-2007, 12:03 PM	#15
BPierce Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minnesota (Becker County) Posts: 148	Avoid Practices to avoid. Aluminum rod from the muzzle (jointed rods are the worst) Too frequent cleaning Letting crud build up on the rod (acts as an abrasive-wipe it frequently) cleaning from the muzzle (If you have to, see the above 3) Steel brush