Most potent .22 LR ammo

[Taurus Fan]

Originally Posted by meatloaf

LMAO what a beautiful answer. Also , what japenese gun did suck the least?

I'm not into them, but it seems like they had a bolt action rifle (Arisaka?) that was awful, but not a total disaster like the rest of their guns. Maybe someone who collects them can tell us more. If there are any people that collect them.

[fishnfool1991]

i personally dont go by velocity or fps i go by accuracy becuase u have to hit somthing in order to kill it so different guns shoot different things i normally just use cci mini mags there accurate out of my cz
garrett

[JMcDonald]

Originally Posted by bigbuddy21

typical kid, ask's for opinions and when they don't suit him he ignores our
help and experience.

I think its quite smart of him to go find his own answers. At least he isn't like all the other sheeple who hear one answer and decide its God's truth. Thats how every other fallacy gets started.

And, how cold a .22 NOT kill a coyote? Granted, its not going to blow its head off, but a well-placed head or torso shot should do the trick, no? Especially given that solid point .22LRs are easily capable of 10-12" of penetration? Ive also seen tests where a .22LR went through 9 layers of clothing and a full turkey at over 250 yards.

If you are wanting to kill a coyote with a .22, I say go for it. There is ample evidence showing that it is completely possible, and at the very least you aren't a "dumb kid" for trying it, especially if you pull it off on which case praise would be in order.

[rfc357]

Taurus Fan, read "Shots Fired in Anger" by Lt Col John B. George. It may change your opinion of WWII Japanese firearms. It certainly did mine.

George was on Guadalcanal, and also fought the Japanese in Burma. He was a member of the Army rifle team before WWII, and was a real gun guy. He had a lot of respect for the Japanese soldier and his equipment. Neither were pretty, but both were effective.

[Fatstrat]

Most potent for what? Application means alot.
For example, Hyper Velocity rounds such as the CCI Stingers have more velocity and are effective small game hunting rounds. But aren't very good for a self defense round.
When fired at a human body, the light weight hollow point bullets tend to disintigrate on impact and before achieving the desired penetration a standard velocity solid point .22LR would achieve.
So different loads are more potent for different applications.

[Rex in OTZ]

My Dad & I were checking cow's and spooked a coyote from just behind a sandhill, dad simply reached back grabbed the Marlin 60 out the rack and cycled'er and 3 shot's later we had one dead coyote, the only other time I saw work like that was another northern Nebraska rancher used a Ruger 10/22 and with 2 shots roll a coon dead shooting from the drivers side of a lurching truck while going down corn stubble row's.
when these guy's shot they triggerd off those shot's fast,
Ive been coon hunting where we had coons on the run and fireing we walked round's right into them, after awhile you get used to where your gun shoots and its a matter of watching.
coon's in a tree are tough for some.

[Fatstrat]

Originally Posted by rfc357

Taurus Fan, read "Shots Fired in Anger" by Lt Col John B. George. It may change your opinion of WWII Japanese firearms. It certainly did mine.

George was on Guadalcanal, and also fought the Japanese in Burma. He was a member of the Army rifle team before WWII, and was a real gun guy. He had a lot of respect for the Japanese soldier and his equipment. Neither were pretty, but both were effective.

The belief that the WW-2 Japanese Arisaka was a substandard weapon is fairly complicated and rooted in both fact and fiction.
1st. At the onset of WW-2. the U.S. Military was unaware of the 7.7 T-99 which was new in 1941. And part of the propaganda fed to U.S. troops heading into battle (particularly @ Guadalcanal) was that the Japanese were armed w/ low powered .25 caliber weapons. True the 6.5MM T-38 rifle bore IS pretty close to .25 Cal. But the Marines soon learned that there was a world of difference between the performance of the 6.5MM Rifle round and .25 Cal pistol round they were lead to believe they would be facing.
2nd: While both the Pre-war to Mid-war T-99 and the T-38 Arisaka's were exceptionally strong arms. Towards wars end things were going bad enough for the Japanese that quality suffered (on the T-99) substancally. Due to allied bombing of Japanese War industry and Allied air/sea superiority which all but stopped imports of vital war materials. The Late War Last Ditch T-99's (1944-45 MFG) were MUCH cruder and less sturdy weapons than their predesesors. And while most are safe enough to fire, there have been many failures.
3rd and perhaps the most damning was that the Japanese made smoothbore Training Rifles intended for BLANKS ONLY that look very similiar to their battle rifles. And at wars end, many of these trainer rifles found their into the hands of souveneer hungry American troops. While clearly marked (in Japanese script) "For Blanks ONLY", Few Americans could read Japanese script and attempted to fire live ammo in them. W/predictable results which further fueled the myth of the weak Arisaka.

[JMcDonald]

Oh and here is a report that changed my mind about the .22LRs.

*edit*

Err... was in a hurry and forgot the link... *sighs and shakes head*
Lethality of the 22LR- Results! - Sniper's Hide Forums

[Peeshooter]

I agree that a round isn't any good unless it hits what it's shot at. The .22LR is a finicky round. Some makes/types/batches shoot well in one rifle and not in another. The best advice is to buy a bunch of different kinds and try them for both accuracy and hitting power at maximum range you intend to shoot.

Hitting power can be somewhat determined by hitting steel plates or metallic animal silhouettes of different size. Steel is not always the best medium, but it's close enough for me most of the time. I can usually tell which is more powerful by the time it takes to get there and how quickly a target falls.

I also see which of the few meet my accuracy needs for the game I want to hunt, or games I intend to play.

A few years ago, I liked Winchester Power Point 40 grain hollow points, but people say they're not as good as they were prior to moving the manufacturing plant. CCI Mini-Mags have also been good, as were the original SGB truncated cone bullets. As usual for .22 LR, your results may vary.

Picher