Hollowpointer Modified Ammo Range Report

Joshua M. Smith · 10-22-2009, 05:18 AM

A while back I bought a hollowpointer/accurizer tool. There were doubts expressed as to whether the modified bullets would perform.

I ran a 100 yard test. However, before we get to that test, let me walk you through the process of making the ammo.

Here are the components to the hollowpointer...

Fairly simple setup, but precise.

The first step is to put the round in the bottom block.

Assemble, and put on some sort of press - even a hammer will work.

Pull the handle...

... and a gaping hollowpoint (depending on depth settings) results.

But how do they perform?

They do shoot more accurately than unmodified ammo, but to the same point of aim. This is probably because they've been set to a standard size, and because the center of mass is further back. This is speculation however. I just know it works!

I set up four water jugs at 100 yards, and fired into them.

These are the results:

This is the first jug. It's pretty well shredded.

A line of all four jugs...

Here's a bullet I recovered from right beyond the fourth jug...

Two more stopped inside the fourth jug.

I believe the variation in penetration is due to the fact that I fired 10 rounds, and kept firing after the jugs were pretty well empty. I tried this test before with three jugs and failed to recover any. I therefore added a fourth jug and kept firing until empty to try to get a few decent samples.

This is a picture of the unmodified round, modified round, and the three bullets I was able to recover.

Keep in mind that this is CCI 40gn LRN I modified. Their website lists the velocities thus:

Muzzle 1235

50 yards 1092

75 yards 1040

100 yards 998

So, when the bullet impacted, it was acting as a heavy .22 short. Yet, it still expanded to over .36".

These are doing better than my old standby, Winchester Xpert, and are of course more consistent.

I'm impressed.

Josh <><

Twitch2120 · 10-22-2009, 12:05 PM

im beginning to love these home made tests more and more. awesome! great post and a cool little tool. i assume it works the same on lead round nose as well as copper plated right? work on brass plated too?

338RUM · 10-22-2009, 12:08 PM

post a link as to where you bought this item! I want one!

Joshua M. Smith · 10-22-2009, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 338RUM

post a link as to where you bought this item! I want one!

Hello,

Talk to D Back at Rimfirecentral. He makes them.

Quote:

i assume it works the same on lead round nose as well as copper plated right? work on brass plated too?

I doubt it would stand up to real plating - but lead and copper and brass WASHED is just fine.

Josh <><

dog party · 10-22-2009, 03:50 PM

Wow! Very cool. I'm going to have to look into adding one of those to my toolkit. Thanks for the report!

m.wun · 10-23-2009, 06:43 PM

Google Pacos acurizer or leveractions.com.He make one that makes up to 4 at
a time with a couple diff. choices of tip designs.

Swe_shark75 · 10-23-2009, 07:04 PM

looks like i´m gonna run my lathe in the morning. gotta try this on federal bulk ammo..

i´ll post som pics of how i did make them..

skiking · 10-23-2009, 07:19 PM

You say that your accuracy improved, but don't say by how much. Did your groups shrink by 10%, 20%, 50%? I am very impressed by the mushrooms that you are getting with that little tool there.

big shrek · 10-24-2009, 03:34 AM

I wonder how much improvement could be made on the Sniper Subsonic .22 ammo...which already expands like a dirty dog

Inquiring minds wanna test

madcratebuilder · 10-24-2009, 08:44 AM

Good report, I looked at that tool a year ago or so. It would really be of benefit for anyone who hunts with a .22.

338RUM · 10-24-2009, 09:05 AM

I really think I am gonna try to buy one, or make one, idk I may have to go over to the forum and purchase one, They seem really nice even if I do not get improved accuracy the mushrooming effect would be awesome for small critters

SwedeSteve · 10-28-2009, 02:07 PM

What were you shooting them out of ??

Joshua M. Smith · 10-28-2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skiking

You say that your accuracy improved, but don't say by how much. Did your groups shrink by 10%, 20%, 50%? I am very impressed by the mushrooms that you are getting with that little tool there.

Hello,

They've become more consistent. Mostly, the fliers were eliminated.

I put a Limbsaver donut on the barrel since I wrote this, so I don't know how valid a comparison would be now. Regardless, I'll see if I can't get to one this weekend.

Josh <><

Joshua M. Smith · 10-28-2009, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

What were you shooting them out of ??

Hello,

The rifle is a Savage left-handed BTVS.

These, a decent 'scope, and a couple other additions have made this a viable 100 yard squirrel cartridge (remember, it still has more energy at 100 yards than a short at the muzzle...)

Josh <><

Kaybe · 11-04-2009, 07:54 PM

What happened to the pictures of your original tool post? I would like to see it but it is all photobucket logo stuff. Help?

Joshua M. Smith · 11-04-2009, 08:21 PM

Hello,

I cannot edit the original post any longer, and my bandwidth is exceeded until the 16th. Partial pics can be seen on "Epic Squirrel Post."

Josh <><

big shrek · 11-05-2009, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua M. Smith

Hello,

I cannot edit the original post any longer, and my bandwidth is exceeded until the 16th. Partial pics can be seen on "Epic Squirrel Post."

Josh <><

If you click on the individual pics, they'll pop up.

10-22-2009, 05:18 AM	#1
Joshua M. Smith Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wabash IN Posts: 541	Hollowpointer Modified Ammo Range Report A while back I bought a hollowpointer/accurizer tool. There were doubts expressed as to whether the modified bullets would perform. I ran a 100 yard test. However, before we get to that test, let me walk you through the process of making the ammo. Here are the components to the hollowpointer... Fairly simple setup, but precise. The first step is to put the round in the bottom block. Assemble, and put on some sort of press - even a hammer will work. Pull the handle... ... and a gaping hollowpoint (depending on depth settings) results. But how do they perform? They do shoot more accurately than unmodified ammo, but to the same point of aim. This is probably because they've been set to a standard size, and because the center of mass is further back. This is speculation however. I just know it works! I set up four water jugs at 100 yards, and fired into them. These are the results: This is the first jug. It's pretty well shredded. A line of all four jugs... Here's a bullet I recovered from right beyond the fourth jug... Two more stopped inside the fourth jug. I believe the variation in penetration is due to the fact that I fired 10 rounds, and kept firing after the jugs were pretty well empty. I tried this test before with three jugs and failed to recover any. I therefore added a fourth jug and kept firing until empty to try to get a few decent samples. This is a picture of the unmodified round, modified round, and the three bullets I was able to recover. Keep in mind that this is CCI 40gn LRN I modified. Their website lists the velocities thus: Muzzle 1235 50 yards 1092 75 yards 1040 100 yards 998 So, when the bullet impacted, it was acting as a heavy .22 short. Yet, it still expanded to over .36". These are doing better than my old standby, Winchester Xpert, and are of course more consistent. I'm impressed. Josh <>< __________________ Is it better to live by a corrupt society's standards rather than face persecution for not doing the same? This is the dilemma we now face. We must hold fast to our convictions as we confront this dilemma. Knowing one's self goes a long way in the crisis. - Me, Standup Philosopher
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10-22-2009, 12:05 PM	#2
Twitch2120 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tucker, GA Posts: 411	im beginning to love these home made tests more and more. awesome! great post and a cool little tool. i assume it works the same on lead round nose as well as copper plated right? work on brass plated too? __________________ The right to bear arms is WAY less ludicrous than the right to arm bears!

10-22-2009, 12:08 PM	#3
338RUM Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lonaconing, MD Posts: 1,180	post a link as to where you bought this item! I want one! __________________ What doesn't kill me has made a HUGE tactical mistake!

10-23-2009, 07:04 PM	#7
Swe_shark75 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 40	looks like i´m gonna run my lathe in the morning. gotta try this on federal bulk ammo.. i´ll post som pics of how i did make them.. __________________ /////KNOW YOUR LIMITS\\\\\

10-24-2009, 03:34 AM	#9
big shrek Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwest, FL Posts: 3,566	I wonder how much improvement could be made on the Sniper Subsonic .22 ammo...which already expands like a dirty dog Inquiring minds wanna test __________________ Marlin Specialist, Calico Specialist

10-22-2009, 03:50 PM	#5
dog party Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 327	Wow! Very cool. I'm going to have to look into adding one of those to my toolkit. Thanks for the report!

10-23-2009, 06:43 PM	#6
m.wun Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kaliforniahell Posts: 12	Google Pacos acurizer or leveractions.com.He make one that makes up to 4 at a time with a couple diff. choices of tip designs.

10-23-2009, 07:19 PM	#8
skiking Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Stumptown, MT Posts: 443	You say that your accuracy improved, but don't say by how much. Did your groups shrink by 10%, 20%, 50%? I am very impressed by the mushrooms that you are getting with that little tool there.

10-24-2009, 08:44 AM	#10
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 2,684	Good report, I looked at that tool a year ago or so. It would really be of benefit for anyone who hunts with a .22. __________________ Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.

10-24-2009, 09:05 AM	#11
338RUM Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lonaconing, MD Posts: 1,180	I really think I am gonna try to buy one, or make one, idk I may have to go over to the forum and purchase one, They seem really nice even if I do not get improved accuracy the mushrooming effect would be awesome for small critters __________________ What doesn't kill me has made a HUGE tactical mistake!

10-28-2009, 02:07 PM	#12
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 25,529	What were you shooting them out of ?? __________________ In the absence of orders, ATTACK !!

11-04-2009, 07:54 PM	#15
Kaybe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northcentral Ohio Posts: 871	What happened to the pictures of your original tool post? I would like to see it but it is all photobucket logo stuff. Help? __________________ "It's a Mister Grimm, something about the reaping."

11-04-2009, 08:21 PM	#16
Joshua M. Smith Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wabash IN Posts: 541	Hello, I cannot edit the original post any longer, and my bandwidth is exceeded until the 16th. Partial pics can be seen on "Epic Squirrel Post." Josh <>< __________________ Is it better to live by a corrupt society's standards rather than face persecution for not doing the same? This is the dilemma we now face. We must hold fast to our convictions as we confront this dilemma. Knowing one's self goes a long way in the crisis. - Me, Standup Philosopher