Sniper SubSonic Ammo

dman24 · 10-22-2009, 10:59 PM

Has anyone tried the Sniper Subsonic ammo made by aguila. I had read somewhere that they are accurate. I found a box at Gander Mountain, and like the idea of a 60 grain bullet in a .22 I tried them yesterday and found them to be accurate and dirty. I shot them through my new 10/22. I just propped on my truck and everytime i shot it was like i had powder come out the action and get on my arm. They were accurate though. Anyone elses experiences are welcome.

Big Dog · 10-23-2009, 08:16 AM

The Aguila SSS ammo is a specialty load, good for what it is designed to do, kill small game up close. The heavy bullet does not stabilise in many newer .22 rifles - I find it performs better in older rifles while tending to keyhole in newer rifles. My Romanian M69 trainer likes it - my Ruger 10-22 does not. It will also not cycle in all semiautos.
The heavy bullet has greater drop as range increases too.

BenchRest · 10-23-2009, 09:30 AM

My son, with some adjustment was shooting them well at 100 yards.
Maybe some day he’ll teach me.

big shrek · 10-23-2009, 12:59 PM

It's truly best in a Bolt-action or Lever-action.

Not really made for semi-auto...

Mooseman684 · 10-23-2009, 01:54 PM

I carry them in My .22 Pocket pistol. I shot a steel oil drum at 50 ft. and it made a .38 caliber hole in the drum...I like them !
Rich

SwedeSteve · 10-23-2009, 03:06 PM

They are simply devastating out of my Marlin bolt gun. And yes, I found them to be very dirty as well !!

Big Dog · 10-24-2009, 09:02 AM

That heavy bullet has excellent "Whompability Factor", as a buddy says. It makes a very satisfying smack on the target, and will flat lay out a 'possum.

My old Whitney Wolverine pistol loves the "SSS" round. The Browning Buckmark chokes on them, not liking the short cases.

ironhead7544 · 10-24-2009, 10:37 PM

That ammo was designed just for the purpose in its name. It needs a 1 in 9 twist to stabilize properly. My 10/22 functions but the bullets keyhole. The CZ452 shoots into 1 inch at 50 yards but shows signs of keyholing. The right barrels can be had for the 10/22 from a couple of different makers. The SSS works well from a suppressor. I read an article written by a pro that uses a suppressed 10/22 to cull unwanted deer within city limits. He doesnt use the SSS in populated area as it has too much penetration. It will completely penetrate an adult whitetails skull at 75 yards. Velocity from my 4 inch Ruger 22 auto is 805 fps.

pathdoc · 10-29-2009, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ironhead7544

The CZ452 shoots into 1 inch at 50 yards but shows signs of keyholing.

Good to know this. I was all set to try and get some, but almost everything else in standard velocity or match (and some HV hunting rounds) that I put through my CZ does better in terms of groups. Unless the lethality is markedly higher (e.g. for angled shots into quartering-away bunnies to get through the guts and into the chest cavity) I'm giving it a miss.

Though I have considered getting a heavyweight barrel for it...

Tack Driver · 11-08-2009, 04:11 PM

How much quieter are they than standard velocity?

9c1lt1pkg · 11-09-2009, 03:42 PM

I have a Rem 597 semi Auto rifle. I want to teach the misses to shot.. Problem is I live in the city. Looking for something quiet I can shoot in my privacy fenced in backyard against the garage .. problem 2 stay bullets. do the CB's , subsonics and others have enough power to break a car window from say 50 or so feet

jmp8927 · 11-09-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 9c1lt1pkg

I have a Rem 597 semi Auto rifle. I want to teach the misses to shot.. Problem is I live in the city. Looking for something quiet I can shoot in my privacy fenced in backyard against the garage .. problem 2 stay bullets. do the CB's , subsonics and others have enough power to break a car window from say 50 or so feet

Absolutely. They have enough power to kill at that range if you hit someone in a soft spot as well. Never shoot a firearm in town. There are way too many people around. Also, I'm sure it's illegal and if you were caught, you'd be in a buttload of trouble.

big shrek · 11-09-2009, 04:26 PM

Unless you are going to build an Underground Shooting Range...like some members have...you really don't want to fire a weapon in the city limits...there are usually laws against it.

gun monkey · 11-10-2009, 08:51 PM

I tried the SSS in a 10/22, berretta 22 noes, and Marlin 56. By far the worst ammo for a 22 I have seen. Not accurate, you need a 1-9 twist barrel to stabilize them otherwise you get the keyhole. It did cycle the action on the semi's but otherwise I was let down.

SwedeSteve · 11-14-2009, 09:50 PM

It's meant for 1:9 and even faster out of a bolt action ?? All my old 22's shoot it flawlessly. The new ones can't stand it !!

Kodiak32 · 11-17-2009, 09:13 PM

I've shoot them thru my old Marlin 80 bolt action and they did pretty well.

If you shoot them thru a pistol, like I did thru my Ruger Single Six, they do have sound from them, not quite a .22 short but pretty close. In the rifle they sounded like a high powered pump pellet gun.

As far as killing power, best for small varmints at close range in my experience. I did kill a racoon with them at close range, one shot.

As stated not intended for semi-auto firearms, may or may not cycle action. Overall I think its good ammo, just depends on what your are wanting to do.

walt464 · 11-21-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 9c1lt1pkg

I have a Rem 597 semi Auto rifle. I want to teach the misses to shot.. Problem is I live in the city. Looking for something quiet I can shoot in my privacy fenced in backyard against the garage .. problem 2 stay bullets. do the CB's , subsonics and others have enough power to break a car window from say 50 or so feet

Any normal .22 LR (including the SSS) has too much power for in-town shooting against the garage. They'll go through a wooden garage, they're killers to 1000 yards or more and they make enough noise that you'll get caught.

One of the really low power .22 rounds with a muzzle velocity under 400 fps and a 20 gr bullet might be a possiblity; these are in the same power range as an air rifle which is the other way you could go. These are one possiblity:

Aguila Colibri Ammunition 22 Long Rifle 20 Grain Solid Point Box of 50 - MidwayUSA

If I remember rightly they have about 6 lb-ft muzzle energy, 375 f/s MV and are almost silent. No powder -- just a primer. Read the reviews at that link.

Even these are NOT for outdoor shooting in town, but what about a basement, crawl space, or long hallway?

Big Dog · 11-22-2009, 01:09 PM

The Colibri and Super Colibri do indeed work well for indoors use - especially for us single guys. You that have a female task master may find their use indoors highly discouraged........

I use a backstop of a large cardboard box filled with rags. Great for testing newly installed sights and scopes, to get it ball-parked. No need to wait to get to the range. Good for backyard use too - quiet enough but don't let the neighbors see ya.

Tha Dave · 11-25-2009, 11:29 PM

I use them in my Ruger 1022 with a bull barrel. At 25 yards they make one ragged hole,@ 100 yards they group about 1.5-2.0 MOA. And yes they cycle just fine on my rifle.

10-22-2009, 10:59 PM	#1
dman24 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 236	Sniper SubSonic Ammo Has anyone tried the Sniper Subsonic ammo made by aguila. I had read somewhere that they are accurate. I found a box at Gander Mountain, and like the idea of a 60 grain bullet in a .22 I tried them yesterday and found them to be accurate and dirty. I shot them through my new 10/22. I just propped on my truck and everytime i shot it was like i had powder come out the action and get on my arm. They were accurate though. Anyone elses experiences are welcome.

10-23-2009, 08:16 AM	#2
Big Dog Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 13,711	The Aguila SSS ammo is a specialty load, good for what it is designed to do, kill small game up close. The heavy bullet does not stabilise in many newer .22 rifles - I find it performs better in older rifles while tending to keyhole in newer rifles. My Romanian M69 trainer likes it - my Ruger 10-22 does not. It will also not cycle in all semiautos. The heavy bullet has greater drop as range increases too. __________________ "A bold spirit embiggens the smallest man!" Jebediah Springfield
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10-23-2009, 12:59 PM	#4
big shrek Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwest, FL Posts: 3,566	It's truly best in a Bolt-action or Lever-action. Not really made for semi-auto... __________________ Marlin Specialist, Calico Specialist

10-23-2009, 01:54 PM	#5
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 12,444	I carry them in My .22 Pocket pistol. I shot a steel oil drum at 50 ft. and it made a .38 caliber hole in the drum...I like them ! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

10-23-2009, 03:06 PM	#6
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 25,529	They are simply devastating out of my Marlin bolt gun. And yes, I found them to be very dirty as well !! __________________ In the absence of orders, ATTACK !!

10-23-2009, 09:30 AM	#3
BenchRest Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: VA Posts: 342	My son, with some adjustment was shooting them well at 100 yards. Maybe some day he’ll teach me.

10-24-2009, 09:02 AM	#7
Big Dog Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 13,711	That heavy bullet has excellent "Whompability Factor", as a buddy says. It makes a very satisfying smack on the target, and will flat lay out a 'possum. My old Whitney Wolverine pistol loves the "SSS" round. The Browning Buckmark chokes on them, not liking the short cases. __________________ "A bold spirit embiggens the smallest man!" Jebediah Springfield

10-24-2009, 10:37 PM	#8
ironhead7544 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 266	That ammo was designed just for the purpose in its name. It needs a 1 in 9 twist to stabilize properly. My 10/22 functions but the bullets keyhole. The CZ452 shoots into 1 inch at 50 yards but shows signs of keyholing. The right barrels can be had for the 10/22 from a couple of different makers. The SSS works well from a suppressor. I read an article written by a pro that uses a suppressed 10/22 to cull unwanted deer within city limits. He doesnt use the SSS in populated area as it has too much penetration. It will completely penetrate an adult whitetails skull at 75 yards. Velocity from my 4 inch Ruger 22 auto is 805 fps.

11-08-2009, 04:11 PM	#10
Tack Driver Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Caswell County, NC Posts: 517	How much quieter are they than standard velocity? __________________ If pro is the opposite of con, is Congress the opposite of progress?

11-09-2009, 03:42 PM	#11
9c1lt1pkg Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1	Subsonic Ammo I have a Rem 597 semi Auto rifle. I want to teach the misses to shot.. Problem is I live in the city. Looking for something quiet I can shoot in my privacy fenced in backyard against the garage .. problem 2 stay bullets. do the CB's , subsonics and others have enough power to break a car window from say 50 or so feet

11-09-2009, 04:26 PM	#13
big shrek Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwest, FL Posts: 3,566	Unless you are going to build an Underground Shooting Range...like some members have...you really don't want to fire a weapon in the city limits...there are usually laws against it. __________________ Marlin Specialist, Calico Specialist

11-10-2009, 08:51 PM	#14
gun monkey Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 126	I tried the SSS in a 10/22, berretta 22 noes, and Marlin 56. By far the worst ammo for a 22 I have seen. Not accurate, you need a 1-9 twist barrel to stabilize them otherwise you get the keyhole. It did cycle the action on the semi's but otherwise I was let down. Last edited by gun monkey; 11-11-2009 at 11:30 AM.

11-14-2009, 09:50 PM	#15
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 25,529	It's meant for 1:9 and even faster out of a bolt action ?? All my old 22's shoot it flawlessly. The new ones can't stand it !! __________________ In the absence of orders, ATTACK !!

11-17-2009, 09:13 PM	#16
Kodiak32 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 527	I've shoot them thru my old Marlin 80 bolt action and they did pretty well. If you shoot them thru a pistol, like I did thru my Ruger Single Six, they do have sound from them, not quite a .22 short but pretty close. In the rifle they sounded like a high powered pump pellet gun. As far as killing power, best for small varmints at close range in my experience. I did kill a racoon with them at close range, one shot. As stated not intended for semi-auto firearms, may or may not cycle action. Overall I think its good ammo, just depends on what your are wanting to do.

11-22-2009, 01:09 PM	#18
Big Dog Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 13,711	The Colibri and Super Colibri do indeed work well for indoors use - especially for us single guys. You that have a female task master may find their use indoors highly discouraged........ I use a backstop of a large cardboard box filled with rags. Great for testing newly installed sights and scopes, to get it ball-parked. No need to wait to get to the range. Good for backyard use too - quiet enough but don't let the neighbors see ya. __________________ "A bold spirit embiggens the smallest man!" Jebediah Springfield
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11-25-2009, 11:29 PM	#19
Tha Dave Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: All over Posts: 276	I use them in my Ruger 1022 with a bull barrel. At 25 yards they make one ragged hole,@ 100 yards they group about 1.5-2.0 MOA. And yes they cycle just fine on my rifle.