need to adjust my rear sight on my savage youth .22

John blaze · 11-20-2009, 11:48 PM

It is about 2.5" off to the left from 25yrd. It has a fixed v-notch for a rear sight. Any advice????

Big Dog · 11-21-2009, 09:35 AM

If the sight is mounted in a dove tail, it can be drifted to either side. If it is truly fixed, than it is simply not adjustable. What about the front sight? Can it be drifted?

I have used JB Weld to fill in sights before, then redrilled or cut a new notch, to adjust windage. Takes great care to get it right though!

John blaze · 11-21-2009, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Dog

If the sight is mounted in a dove tail, it can be drifted to either side. If it is truly fixed, than it is simply not adjustable. What about the front sight? Can it be drifted?

I have used JB Weld to fill in sights before, then redrilled or cut a new notch, to adjust windage. Takes great care to get it right though!

My front sight can not be drifted. But my rear sight is on a leaf spring and moves farward and back for elevation but can it be adjusted fram side to side

K75RT · 11-21-2009, 05:52 PM

walt464 · 11-21-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by K75RT

John,
... Since your shooting too far to the left your sight has to be moved in the direction of the excess; to the left. ...

Are you sure about that? Imagine the rifle mounted in a vice with the sights on the target and shooting 2.5" left. Correcting this would require moving the LOS to also be 2.5" left, that is, moving the rear sight to the right.

With the LOS and bore lined up, you could unclamp the rifle and shoot bullseyes.

Yeah, any gunsmith will be able to do this; it's not a fancy job but having the right tools makes it a lot easier to do without risking damage to your rifle.

sheffieldshootr · 11-21-2009, 10:17 PM

Walt is correct. The rear sight needs to be moved in the same direction that you want the point of impact to move. So, you need to move the rear sight to the right.

I have adjusted many a dovetail rear sight with a small brass drift and a hammer. I never had to remove the stock and put the rifle in a vise either. We have hard rubber gasket like material covering our concrete benches at the range. I simply lay the rifle on its side and give the sight a few gentle taps moving it in the direction I want the point of impact to change to.

Be very patient. Small adjustments. Shoot a group. Need more? Another small adjustment. Shoot a group. Closer. Repeat. If you go too far and pass the convergence of POI and POA, then simpy tap it back the other way.

Oh, the drift may leave slight brass markings on the sight during this process. I have never had any trouble wiping these markings off with an oiled cotton cloth.

If one was adjusting for windage using the front sight, the opposite rule holds true.

John blaze · 11-21-2009, 11:32 PM

Thanks guys I really needed help

K75RT · 11-22-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by walt464

Are you sure about that? Imagine the rifle mounted in a vice with the sights on the target and shooting 2.5" left. Correcting this would require moving the LOS to also be 2.5" left, that is, moving the rear sight to the right.

With the LOS and bore lined up, you could unclamp the rifle and shoot bullseyes.

Yeah, any gunsmith will be able to do this; it's not a fancy job but having the right tools makes it a lot easier to do without risking damage to your rifle.

Imagine this, mounting the barreled action in a soft vice so as not to ruin the finish on a stock. If your iron sight are printing to the left you move your rear sight to the left as you move you sight to the left it moves the bullet impact to the right...If you want to move your bullet impact up you move your rear sight up...

John blaze · 11-22-2009, 07:04 PM

You guys both sound right. What adice do I follow

G. Green · 11-22-2009, 07:28 PM

Move rear sights the direction you want to move impact. Move front sights opposite to where to want to move impact.

G. Green · 11-22-2009, 07:59 PM

Here's a simple demo. Using something straight a ruler or something. Make a V with the fingers of one hand on one end and put Mr pointer on the other end of the ruler and center it in the V. Now move the V (rear sight) to the right without moving your straight edge, NOW which direction do you have to move the front sight to get it centered again? That's the direction the impact will move.

John blaze · 11-22-2009, 08:39 PM

demo works thank you very much

G. Green · 11-22-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sheffieldshootr

I have adjusted many a dovetail rear sight with a small brass drift and a hammer. I never had to remove the stock and put the rifle in a vise either. We have hard rubber gasket like material covering our concrete benches at the range. I simply lay the rifle on its side and give the sight a few gentle taps moving it in the direction I want the point of impact to change to.

Be very patient. Small adjustments. Shoot a group. Need more? Another small adjustment. Shoot a group. Closer. Repeat. If you go too far and pass the convergence of POI and POA, then simpy tap it back the other way.

One caution:
No shop is complete without the brass hammer and drift, BUT don't try this on something that has night sights unless they are just glow in the dark paint, some of the quality night sights use a small glass bead with tritium gas and if you fracture a bead you loss your gas, and your "night sights" become "sights".

John blaze · 11-22-2009, 11:31 PM

thank you

big shrek · 11-23-2009, 01:00 AM

Get some adjustable rear sights

It ain't like Firesights are expensive or anythhing

11-20-2009, 11:48 PM	#1
John blaze Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 37	need to adjust my rear sight on my savage youth .22 It is about 2.5" off to the left from 25yrd. It has a fixed v-notch for a rear sight. Any advice????

11-21-2009, 09:35 AM	#2
Big Dog Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 13,711	If the sight is mounted in a dove tail, it can be drifted to either side. If it is truly fixed, than it is simply not adjustable. What about the front sight? Can it be drifted? I have used JB Weld to fill in sights before, then redrilled or cut a new notch, to adjust windage. Takes great care to get it right though! __________________ "A bold spirit embiggens the smallest man!" Jebediah Springfield

11-21-2009, 05:52 PM	#4
K75RT Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Litchfield County, Connecticut Posts: 630	. __________________ 'Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.' Last edited by K75RT; 11-22-2009 at 06:21 PM. Reason: Ignorance

11-21-2009, 10:17 PM	#6
sheffieldshootr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Alabama Posts: 111	Walt is correct. The rear sight needs to be moved in the same direction that you want the point of impact to move. So, you need to move the rear sight to the right. I have adjusted many a dovetail rear sight with a small brass drift and a hammer. I never had to remove the stock and put the rifle in a vise either. We have hard rubber gasket like material covering our concrete benches at the range. I simply lay the rifle on its side and give the sight a few gentle taps moving it in the direction I want the point of impact to change to. Be very patient. Small adjustments. Shoot a group. Need more? Another small adjustment. Shoot a group. Closer. Repeat. If you go too far and pass the convergence of POI and POA, then simpy tap it back the other way. Oh, the drift may leave slight brass markings on the sight during this process. I have never had any trouble wiping these markings off with an oiled cotton cloth. If one was adjusting for windage using the front sight, the opposite rule holds true. Last edited by sheffieldshootr; 11-21-2009 at 11:46 PM.

11-22-2009, 07:04 PM	#9
John blaze Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 37	You guys both sound right. What adice do I follow __________________ Guns don't kill people,people kill people

11-21-2009, 11:32 PM	#7
John blaze Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 37	Thanks guys I really needed help

11-22-2009, 07:28 PM	#10
G. Green Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NE OK Posts: 1,023	Move rear sights the direction you want to move impact. Move front sights opposite to where to want to move impact. __________________ "The only thing more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance" Einstein

11-22-2009, 07:59 PM	#11
G. Green Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NE OK Posts: 1,023	Here's a simple demo. Using something straight a ruler or something. Make a V with the fingers of one hand on one end and put Mr pointer on the other end of the ruler and center it in the V. Now move the V (rear sight) to the right without moving your straight edge, NOW which direction do you have to move the front sight to get it centered again? That's the direction the impact will move. __________________ "The only thing more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance" Einstein

11-22-2009, 08:39 PM	#12
John blaze Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 37	demo works thank you very much __________________ Guns don't kill people,people kill people

11-22-2009, 11:31 PM	#14
John blaze Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 37	thank you __________________ Guns don't kill people,people kill people

11-23-2009, 01:00 AM	#15
big shrek Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwest, FL Posts: 3,566	Get some adjustable rear sights It ain't like Firesights are expensive or anythhing __________________ Marlin Specialist, Calico Specialist