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zebraben · 10-12-2005, 06:06 PM

Sounds like a good idea

Troy · 10-12-2005, 11:35 PM

putting the coin on the gun while pulling the trigger is an excellent suggestion. something i was taught a long time ago was that while you are pulling the trigger you will tend to tug the gun either up or down or side to side. the coin trick will get you past that and teach you the sweet spot of being able to keep trigger control.

zebraben · 10-15-2005, 12:20 AM

Alright Guys, I went out today a got myself some snap caps; I must say they are very well made, A-Zoom i thin is the brand, feels very similar in weight and texture to an actual round. Very nice. If you are going to be dry firing this is the way to go.

BigJake · 10-15-2005, 02:07 AM

The ammo, Federal FMJ 230 gr. that is as good as any to start with, it is the basic .45 round. I am glad that something I said had some relavence on your progress. sounds like you are on your way.

Like Outritedark said Eye dominance is a thing to know when shooting. I hope my sons are Right handed Right eye Dominant, but if not they can adjust when they get older.

I developed a flinch when I moved from .40 S&W to .45 ACP and was discusted at my accuracy. There are times when I still catch myself flenching while shooting really hot +p defensive loads. That is why if you are going to rely on or carry a gun for self defense even tho it is more costly, practice as much as you can with the ammo you will be carrying. But until you feel happy with your accuracy and worked your "Human error bugs" out, stick with the 230 gr FMJ or standard velocity HP. (in my opinion)

You said you want some ammo tips?

----NOTE---- this is personal preference .45 ammo is due to a lot of critics.
1) I Carry Cor-Bon 200 gr. +p in my Glock 30 and 21. I have had to use it on a few vermin including 2 Dogs. (I love dogs dont get me wrong, but when they show up in your yard and bite at your wife and yourself and try to attack your $425.00 Jack Russell Terrier, they gotta go, anyways) The first dog that took a "Dirtnap" was with this round. he fell as if he had been "pole axed". I found the bullet after it exited and ricoched off my lawn mower, and if I can find out how to post a pic of the bullet I will.
I can dig up the dog too if you... just kidding.

2)I hate to say it, but as I now call it Wal-Marx sells 100 rd Winchester fmj 230gr for about 20 bucks, in my state anyways.

3)Winchester Sxt is not cheap but is supposed to be extremely reliable.

----these links are hotter ammo sites-----

4) Buffalobore.com
this site is expensive but has some hot stuff.

5) doubletapammo.com
this site has some hot stuff and some in bulk (500 rnds) they even have some 230 ball (fmj) ammo that is over 1000 fps.

Copper · 10-26-2005, 02:59 PM

Cwto, in reference to you shooting low and to the right, it sound like to me that you're "milking" the grip. What I mean by that is that you're squeezing harder on the grip in anticipation of the weapon discharging. Don't worry so much about a good tight group right now, just work on your mechanics. Stance, sight picture, grip, trigger sqeeze, etc, etc. The more you work on the fundementals, the better shooter you'll be. I carry 230 gr. Federal Hydra-shok in my Glock 21, and they work pretty well on anything that walks on 2 legs or even 4.

Bountyhunter · 10-27-2005, 12:11 PM

A lot of the "secret" of accurate shooting of the 1911 or similar .45 Autos is getting your grip on the gun correct to begin with.

If you are grouping but not on center, it can be your grip or your sight alignment. There is a lot of info in the net about gripping an auto pistol, and how your trigger finger fits the stock and how you put your finger on the trigger. The best idea is to find a seasoned shooter or a competitive shooter and ask for advice. If your trigger finger is gripping the gun tight, and you are pulling with the second finger pad instead of the finger tip, you can actually "push" or "pull" your group off center.

Practice, practice, practice, but remember practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.

Bill

Tipadoux · 11-23-2005, 08:05 PM

My brother in law bought a 9MM and couldn't hit a bull in the but at 5 feet with it. He cussed the manufactor, 9MM and about a dozen other things. I was watching a State patrolman the other day and he pulled his 9MM and hit 6 out of 6 steel revolving targets 10 times in a row and I mean fast too. I talked to him and he told me to start shooting at 5 feet if that is what it takes. Also use both hands to control and a good starting thing is to slowly bring the pistol down the target and squezze off when it gets to the center.
Then move to 10, 15 and on to 25 yards. Shoot,shoot and shoot some more!
When I first shot my Remington 9MM it was a disaster. But now I can land 15 rounds in the center at 25 yards-good home defence distance anyway.

forgunsandgame · 11-26-2005, 02:58 PM

Dry firing most any gun will mess it up eventually. I haven't seen it done in years but we used to take a piece of old tire and cut to fit in place of a primer so the firing pin had something to land on. But they likely sell something that will absorb the energy from the firing pin these days.

ruger22com · 11-27-2005, 10:08 PM

In a two handed grip, make sure your left index finger is pointing straight forward and not touching the pistol...and squeze...don't jerk.

BIG"G" · 12-22-2005, 11:53 PM

Zebraben My advise to you is to relax and have fun with your gun. Dont stress over hitting or not hitting your target. You should aim and take note of where on the target your aiming, after you fire see how far off you were from the spot. All guns are different and some tend to shoot a little off to one side or the other. Get to know your weapon and see how it shoots it might tend to pull to one side even if your not limpwristing. Unless you buy a high end gun this is known to happen. So if you see your off your target by say 3inches to the left, the next shot aim 3inches to the right of the target and see if it solved your problem. I must tell you though I am not an expert but I am a very good shooter. You should also stiffen your wrist and elbow, absorb the shot with the shoulder. It also helps to pull the trigger slowly so you dont pull the gun off to one side. I hope this helps and like I said im not a pro but this seems to work for me..

10-15-2005, 02:07 AM	#24
BigJake Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Posts: 184	The ammo, Federal FMJ 230 gr. that is as good as any to start with, it is the basic .45 round. I am glad that something I said had some relavence on your progress. sounds like you are on your way. Like Outritedark said Eye dominance is a thing to know when shooting. I hope my sons are Right handed Right eye Dominant, but if not they can adjust when they get older. I developed a flinch when I moved from .40 S&W to .45 ACP and was discusted at my accuracy. There are times when I still catch myself flenching while shooting really hot +p defensive loads. That is why if you are going to rely on or carry a gun for self defense even tho it is more costly, practice as much as you can with the ammo you will be carrying. But until you feel happy with your accuracy and worked your "Human error bugs" out, stick with the 230 gr FMJ or standard velocity HP. (in my opinion) You said you want some ammo tips? ----NOTE---- this is personal preference .45 ammo is due to a lot of critics. 1) I Carry Cor-Bon 200 gr. +p in my Glock 30 and 21. I have had to use it on a few vermin including 2 Dogs. (I love dogs dont get me wrong, but when they show up in your yard and bite at your wife and yourself and try to attack your $425.00 Jack Russell Terrier, they gotta go, anyways) The first dog that took a "Dirtnap" was with this round. he fell as if he had been "pole axed". I found the bullet after it exited and ricoched off my lawn mower, and if I can find out how to post a pic of the bullet I will. I can dig up the dog too if you... just kidding. 2)I hate to say it, but as I now call it Wal-Marx sells 100 rd Winchester fmj 230gr for about 20 bucks, in my state anyways. 3)Winchester Sxt is not cheap but is supposed to be extremely reliable. ----these links are hotter ammo sites----- 4) Buffalobore.com this site is expensive but has some hot stuff. 5) doubletapammo.com this site has some hot stuff and some in bulk (500 rnds) they even have some 230 ball (fmj) ammo that is over 1000 fps. __________________ Yo Ho Ho an-a bottle a Brass Monkey...

11-26-2005, 02:58 PM	#28
forgunsandgame Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 21	Dry firing Dry firing most any gun will mess it up eventually. I haven't seen it done in years but we used to take a piece of old tire and cut to fit in place of a primer so the firing pin had something to land on. But they likely sell something that will absorb the energy from the firing pin these days.

11-27-2005, 10:08 PM	#29
ruger22com Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mobile Alabama Posts: 723	In a two handed grip, make sure your left index finger is pointing straight forward and not touching the pistol...and squeze...don't jerk. __________________ www.CheapGunParts.com http://ruger22.com/art/banners/tiny.gif Home of the "YELLOW JACKET" Bolt Buffer and Takedown Bolts! Free Shipping & Lifetime Warranty!

10-12-2005, 06:06 PM	#21
zebraben Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Rafael,Ca Posts: 47	Sounds like a good idea

10-12-2005, 11:35 PM	#22
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,501 Images: 3	putting the coin on the gun while pulling the trigger is an excellent suggestion. something i was taught a long time ago was that while you are pulling the trigger you will tend to tug the gun either up or down or side to side. the coin trick will get you past that and teach you the sweet spot of being able to keep trigger control.

10-15-2005, 12:20 AM	#23
zebraben Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Rafael,Ca Posts: 47	Alright Guys, I went out today a got myself some snap caps; I must say they are very well made, A-Zoom i thin is the brand, feels very similar in weight and texture to an actual round. Very nice. If you are going to be dry firing this is the way to go.

10-26-2005, 02:59 PM	#25
Copper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southern "Mizzeruh" Posts: 246	Cwto, in reference to you shooting low and to the right, it sound like to me that you're "milking" the grip. What I mean by that is that you're squeezing harder on the grip in anticipation of the weapon discharging. Don't worry so much about a good tight group right now, just work on your mechanics. Stance, sight picture, grip, trigger sqeeze, etc, etc. The more you work on the fundementals, the better shooter you'll be. I carry 230 gr. Federal Hydra-shok in my Glock 21, and they work pretty well on anything that walks on 2 legs or even 4.

10-27-2005, 12:11 PM	#26
Bountyhunter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Territory Posts: 103	A lot of the "secret" of accurate shooting of the 1911 or similar .45 Autos is getting your grip on the gun correct to begin with. If you are grouping but not on center, it can be your grip or your sight alignment. There is a lot of info in the net about gripping an auto pistol, and how your trigger finger fits the stock and how you put your finger on the trigger. The best idea is to find a seasoned shooter or a competitive shooter and ask for advice. If your trigger finger is gripping the gun tight, and you are pulling with the second finger pad instead of the finger tip, you can actually "push" or "pull" your group off center. Practice, practice, practice, but remember practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect. Bill

11-23-2005, 08:05 PM	#27
Tipadoux Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 66	My brother in law bought a 9MM and couldn't hit a bull in the but at 5 feet with it. He cussed the manufactor, 9MM and about a dozen other things. I was watching a State patrolman the other day and he pulled his 9MM and hit 6 out of 6 steel revolving targets 10 times in a row and I mean fast too. I talked to him and he told me to start shooting at 5 feet if that is what it takes. Also use both hands to control and a good starting thing is to slowly bring the pistol down the target and squezze off when it gets to the center. Then move to 10, 15 and on to 25 yards. Shoot,shoot and shoot some more! When I first shot my Remington 9MM it was a disaster. But now I can land 15 rounds in the center at 25 yards-good home defence distance anyway.

12-22-2005, 11:53 PM	#30
BIG"G" Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SOUTHERN CALI Posts: 10	Zebraben My advise to you is to relax and have fun with your gun. Dont stress over hitting or not hitting your target. You should aim and take note of where on the target your aiming, after you fire see how far off you were from the spot. All guns are different and some tend to shoot a little off to one side or the other. Get to know your weapon and see how it shoots it might tend to pull to one side even if your not limpwristing. Unless you buy a high end gun this is known to happen. So if you see your off your target by say 3inches to the left, the next shot aim 3inches to the right of the target and see if it solved your problem. I must tell you though I am not an expert but I am a very good shooter. You should also stiffen your wrist and elbow, absorb the shot with the shoulder. It also helps to pull the trigger slowly so you dont pull the gun off to one side. I hope this helps and like I said im not a pro but this seems to work for me..