I inherited an arisaka 7.7 crap or not?

bheiser · 02-24-2006, 11:02 PM

all I need is a firing pin but I hear ammo is tough to come by. Any thoughts?

SPOCAHP ANAR · 02-25-2006, 07:25 AM

Well they don't sell it at wally mart.....

If the rifle is in good condition buy a firing pin and shoot it a couple of times a years just for fun. Ammo is made for it but its a specialty find which means hard to find and expensive.

Here's a couple of places to get started looking; shop around some more and check out gun shows and look for japanese gun clubs and reenactors they'll have a line or make their own also.

http://www.ammodirect.com/product%20...ammunition.htm

http://ableammo.com/catalog/product_...dcf9d34e96a0c8

jerry · 02-25-2006, 07:37 AM

depends on what you mean by inherited. If you won in a poker game probably no biggie. If someone left it, it would have some sentimental value, to me anyway. Any gun in the collection is a cool gun to me.

Big Dog · 02-25-2006, 08:32 AM

Do some research on it - date of production and such. Some late WWII rifles may be of lower quality. My buddy has an earlier Type99 that is quite nice. He reloads, so ammo isn't a biggie. Brass is available and it uses the same bullets as the .303 Brit and 7.62X54R Russian.
He just got his Type 38 in 6.5mm, so he's building a Japanese collection.

FutureMarine · 02-25-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bheiser

all I need is a firing pin but I hear ammo is tough to come by. Any thoughts?

cousin has one that is beautiful with perfect cresanthenum. Is yours crossed out? Best we found on rounds is 1.75 per round

bheiser · 02-25-2006, 11:11 PM

my cresantheum is stamped out. The firing pin was filled down. i think i will just restore it and hang it

NRAJOE · 02-26-2006, 12:00 AM

I found a beauty at a local pawn shop...dang near perfect condition...mum intact...$189 but I think it is a last ditch, but it had a metal buttplate...thought last ditches had wood buttplates?

bheiser · 02-26-2006, 06:41 AM

I have a metal one

7mmag6 · 03-01-2006, 10:43 PM

my father brought one back from okinawa. it still has the crest but its not in any condition to fire, Its my rembrence of my dad

Full MeTal Jack · 03-02-2006, 09:15 PM

Yes! It's a total piece of crap! Send it to me.

Gio · 04-01-2006, 05:54 PM

Just make sure its not a suicide rifle.

toolman · 04-01-2006, 10:39 PM

B, I'm not sure but you might check with www.grafs.com Hornady is producing a lot of oddball military calibers but I don't know if the 7.7 is one of them. If that doesn't work try Ron Reed (jarcp on G&G) @ www.reedsammo.com he custom loads ammo and is a really good guy. Tim

toolman · 04-01-2006, 10:49 PM

B, just checked the Grafs site, here ya go-
http://www.grafs.com/ammo/product/6064 . As long as you don't have a "last-ditch" gun,and as long as the gun is in good cond, (see gunsmith), it would make a good shooter-they are solidly built and some show pretty exceptional accuracy.

gonzo454 · 04-04-2006, 07:05 PM

My pop just picked one up in a trade, based on all the particulars of the trade he pretty much got that rifle for free…at any rate it prompted me to do some research:

http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/japanese_markings.html

This may help with ID

Full MeTal Jack · 04-04-2006, 10:43 PM

Thanks Gonzo, I have 3 in various conditions. All Nagoya Arsenal.

Copper · 04-05-2006, 05:19 PM

Yet more useless information for you, the Japanese filed off the mum in order to "save face" when they eventually surrendered. One with the mum intact are generally "battlefield pick-ups". To answer your question NRAJOE, the "last ditch" rifles did have wooden butt plates, poorly made, and a lack of arsenal stamps or proofs.

gonzo454 · 04-05-2006, 06:47 PM

In addition the last ditch, (if I understand it right) do not have the mono pod, nor the aerial combat sights…but I am definitely no expert of this model rifle, I only have the information I recently read and can recall in my little cranium.

7mmag6 · 04-05-2006, 09:33 PM

yea these things are not my cup of tea and generally not intrested in them the guy that knows them really well is dana

Gio · 04-06-2006, 06:17 PM

From what I heard the last ditch ones also had aluminum barrels.

ninwnc · 04-28-2006, 12:05 PM

There ios a local estate auction coming up next Saturday, with 2, "Type 99 Japanese, 6.62mm, military WWII combat rifles" listed. I may check'em out.

I had a 6.5 Arisaka, in the past, but the chamber was so worn, that I could only use a peice of brass for one firing. It bulged badly out of round, just above the base.

I took it to a local gun shop, and they sold it on consignment for me. At least I got my $$ back.

Nick

02-24-2006, 11:02 PM	#1
bheiser Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Parkville MD Posts: 202 Trader Rating: (0)	I inherited an arisaka 7.7 crap or not? all I need is a firing pin but I hear ammo is tough to come by. Any thoughts? __________________ Walther PPK,RIA 1911, FN-FAL308 Mossy500:uzi:

02-25-2006, 07:25 AM	#2
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,025 Trader Rating: (0)	Well they don't sell it at wally mart..... If the rifle is in good condition buy a firing pin and shoot it a couple of times a years just for fun. Ammo is made for it but its a specialty find which means hard to find and expensive. Here's a couple of places to get started looking; shop around some more and check out gun shows and look for japanese gun clubs and reenactors they'll have a line or make their own also. http://www.ammodirect.com/product%20...ammunition.htm http://ableammo.com/catalog/product_...dcf9d34e96a0c8 __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

02-25-2006, 07:37 AM	#3
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,760 Trader Rating: (0)	depends on what you mean by inherited. If you won in a poker game probably no biggie. If someone left it, it would have some sentimental value, to me anyway. Any gun in the collection is a cool gun to me. __________________

02-25-2006, 08:32 AM	#4
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,067 Trader Rating: (0)	Do some research on it - date of production and such. Some late WWII rifles may be of lower quality. My buddy has an earlier Type99 that is quite nice. He reloads, so ammo isn't a biggie. Brass is available and it uses the same bullets as the .303 Brit and 7.62X54R Russian. He just got his Type 38 in 6.5mm, so he's building a Japanese collection. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

02-25-2006, 11:11 PM	#6
bheiser Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Parkville MD Posts: 202 Trader Rating: (0)	my cresantheum is stamped out. The firing pin was filled down. i think i will just restore it and hang it __________________ Walther PPK,RIA 1911, FN-FAL308 Mossy500:uzi:

02-26-2006, 12:00 AM	#7
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,014 Trader Rating: (0)	I found a beauty at a local pawn shop...dang near perfect condition...mum intact...$189 but I think it is a last ditch, but it had a metal buttplate...thought last ditches had wood buttplates?

02-26-2006, 06:41 AM	#8
bheiser Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Parkville MD Posts: 202 Trader Rating: (0)	I have a metal one __________________ Walther PPK,RIA 1911, FN-FAL308 Mossy500:uzi:

03-01-2006, 10:43 PM	#9
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Trader Rating: (0)	my father brought one back from okinawa. it still has the crest but its not in any condition to fire, Its my rembrence of my dad

03-02-2006, 09:15 PM	#10
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,417 Trader Rating: (0)	Yes! It's a total piece of crap! Send it to me. __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

04-01-2006, 05:54 PM	#11
Gio Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 804 Trader Rating: (0)	Just make sure its not a suicide rifle. __________________ Blow you up.

04-01-2006, 10:39 PM	#12
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,356 Trader Rating: (0)	B, I'm not sure but you might check with www.grafs.com Hornady is producing a lot of oddball military calibers but I don't know if the 7.7 is one of them. If that doesn't work try Ron Reed (jarcp on G&G) @ www.reedsammo.com he custom loads ammo and is a really good guy. Tim __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

04-01-2006, 10:49 PM	#13
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,356 Trader Rating: (0)	B, just checked the Grafs site, here ya go- http://www.grafs.com/ammo/product/6064 . As long as you don't have a "last-ditch" gun,and as long as the gun is in good cond, (see gunsmith), it would make a good shooter-they are solidly built and some show pretty exceptional accuracy. __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun! Last edited by toolman; 04-03-2006 at 10:39 PM.

04-04-2006, 07:05 PM	#14
gonzo454 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 111 Trader Rating: (0)	My pop just picked one up in a trade, based on all the particulars of the trade he pretty much got that rifle for free…at any rate it prompted me to do some research: http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/japanese_markings.html This may help with ID

04-04-2006, 10:43 PM	#15
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,417 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks Gonzo, I have 3 in various conditions. All Nagoya Arsenal. __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

04-05-2006, 05:19 PM	#16
Copper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southern "Mizzeruh" Posts: 246 Trader Rating: (0)	Yet more useless information for you, the Japanese filed off the mum in order to "save face" when they eventually surrendered. One with the mum intact are generally "battlefield pick-ups". To answer your question NRAJOE, the "last ditch" rifles did have wooden butt plates, poorly made, and a lack of arsenal stamps or proofs.

04-05-2006, 06:47 PM	#17
gonzo454 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 111 Trader Rating: (0)	In addition the last ditch, (if I understand it right) do not have the mono pod, nor the aerial combat sights…but I am definitely no expert of this model rifle, I only have the information I recently read and can recall in my little cranium.

04-05-2006, 09:33 PM	#18
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Trader Rating: (0)	yea these things are not my cup of tea and generally not intrested in them the guy that knows them really well is dana

04-06-2006, 06:17 PM	#19
Gio Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 804 Trader Rating: (0)	From what I heard the last ditch ones also had aluminum barrels. __________________ Blow you up.

04-28-2006, 12:05 PM	#20
ninwnc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 435 Trader Rating: (0)	There ios a local estate auction coming up next Saturday, with 2, "Type 99 Japanese, 6.62mm, military WWII combat rifles" listed. I may check'em out. I had a 6.5 Arisaka, in the past, but the chamber was so worn, that I could only use a peice of brass for one firing. It bulged badly out of round, just above the base. I took it to a local gun shop, and they sold it on consignment for me. At least I got my $$ back. Nick