Millions of illegals to become citizens?

SPOCAHP ANAR · 03-16-2006, 04:34 PM

Kennedy-McCain immigration reform bill likely to pass Senate committee after recess

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=49296

"have Relations with" McCAIN sorry POS"child of an unwed mother"

7mmag6 · 03-16-2006, 04:36 PM

careful of your language

SPOCAHP ANAR · 03-16-2006, 04:49 PM

okay I edited it......:guitar:

Rufus Rhastus J · 03-17-2006, 07:57 AM

Now that's just what we need.....more illegals! I'm sure that will fix everything.

Rave · 03-17-2006, 08:03 AM

Yeah,but look at it this way,they won't be illegals anymore,not that it makes much difference.

Gio · 03-17-2006, 11:14 AM

At least they will Pay taxes now. Not like being illegal has ever kept them from working anyway.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 03-17-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gio

At least they will Pay taxes now. Not like being illegal has ever kept them from working anyway.

That is a big misconception; illegals who work real jobs (not under the table jobs) that use fake id's pay taxes. Documented workers still don't pay taxes either since they are considered non-US citizens. Only US citizens pay us taxes. And since most of the ones whpo are legal citizens or use fake documents have low wage jobs and large families they get all sorts of welfare benefits, along with the EITC (from the republicans) they get all their taxes plus some back. Not to pin this just on the hispanics the whites and blacks use the EITC as well.

All people who buy stuff pays taxes.

troy2000 · 03-17-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

That is a big misconception; illegals who work real jobs (not under the table jobs) that use fake id's pay taxes. Documented workers still don't pay taxes either since they are considered non-US citizens. Only US citizens pay us taxes. And since most of the ones whpo are legal citizens or use fake documents have low wage jobs and large families they get all sorts of welfare benefits, along with the EITC (from the republicans) they get all their taxes plus some back. Not to pin this just on the hispanics the whites and blacks use the EITC as well.
All people who buy stuff pays taxes.

Money earned here is taxed here, regardless of citizenship.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 03-17-2006, 04:03 PM

Troy if you are here on a visa you are tax exempt for a certain number of years; 6-7 I believe. Or so I have been told by the guys here on visa.

troy2000 · 03-17-2006, 04:11 PM

I'll look into it and get back to you. It's the first I've ever heard of it, and I met a lot of payrolls in the past. Nowhere did I ever see mentioned a difference in withholding of any sort for non-citizens.

troy2000 · 03-17-2006, 04:14 PM

"For tax purposes, an alien is an individual who is not a U.S. citizen. Aliens are classified as nonresident aliens and resident aliens. This publication will help you determine your status and give you information you will need to file your U.S. tax return. Resident aliens generally are taxed on their worldwide income, the same as U.S. citizens. Nonresident aliens are taxed only on their income from sources within the United States and on certain income connected with the conduct of a trade or business in the United States."

SPOCAHP ANAR · 03-17-2006, 04:20 PM

If this is true then there is a misconception out there on what immigrants pay in taxes. Regardless; even if they are taxed they will recieved all of it back if they are in a low income bracket.

troy2000 · 03-17-2006, 04:24 PM

I have no problem with that. If they're here legally and playing by the rules, they should be treated accordingly.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 03-17-2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

I have no problem with that. If they're here legally and playing by the rules, they should be treated accordingly.

Agreed; however one should not have $2500 taken out of their check over the course of the year and then get back $4500 as "Earned Income Tax Credit". Because of this they are paying nothing into the SS or medicare program.

What the HE!! is that anyway? My money wasn't earned the same as theirs?

troy2000 · 03-17-2006, 04:33 PM

If they're playing by the same rules, they get the same benefits. If you don't like it for them, you shouldn't like it for anyone (and probably don't, I'm guessing).

SPOCAHP ANAR · 03-17-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

you shouldn't like it for anyone (and probably don't, I'm guessing).

YOU hit the BIG nail on the BIG head!

I have the philosophy of "legally screw the government on all you can legally screw them out of" God knows they are gonna waste it anyway....... But the fact remains the EITC is a giveaway program. Money taken from someone's pocket and given to someone else who didn't earn it. A product of an unfair tax system designed to buy votes and wield power for a group of unscrupulous politicians from both sides of the aisles.

03-16-2006, 04:34 PM	#1
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,087 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 4	Millions of illegals to become citizens? Kennedy-McCain immigration reform bill likely to pass Senate committee after recess http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=49296 "have Relations with" McCAIN sorry POS"child of an unwed mother" __________________ Spocrest Out!.......... Last edited by SPOCAHP ANAR; 03-16-2006 at 04:48 PM.

03-16-2006, 04:49 PM	#3
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,087 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 4	okay I edited it......:guitar: __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

03-17-2006, 07:57 AM	#4
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	Now that's just what we need.....more illegals! I'm sure that will fix everything. __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

03-17-2006, 08:03 AM	#5
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,859	Yeah,but look at it this way,they won't be illegals anymore,not that it makes much difference. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

03-17-2006, 11:14 AM	#6
Gio Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 804 Images: 8	At least they will Pay taxes now. Not like being illegal has ever kept them from working anyway. __________________ Blow you up.

03-16-2006, 04:36 PM	#2
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	careful of your language

03-17-2006, 04:03 PM	#9
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,087 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 4	Troy if you are here on a visa you are tax exempt for a certain number of years; 6-7 I believe. Or so I have been told by the guys here on visa. __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

03-17-2006, 04:11 PM	#10
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,406 Images: 9	I'll look into it and get back to you. It's the first I've ever heard of it, and I met a lot of payrolls in the past. Nowhere did I ever see mentioned a difference in withholding of any sort for non-citizens.

03-17-2006, 04:14 PM	#11
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,406 Images: 9	This is straight from the IRS "For tax purposes, an alien is an individual who is not a U.S. citizen. Aliens are classified as nonresident aliens and resident aliens. This publication will help you determine your status and give you information you will need to file your U.S. tax return. Resident aliens generally are taxed on their worldwide income, the same as U.S. citizens. Nonresident aliens are taxed only on their income from sources within the United States and on certain income connected with the conduct of a trade or business in the United States."

03-17-2006, 04:20 PM	#12
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,087 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 4	If this is true then there is a misconception out there on what immigrants pay in taxes. Regardless; even if they are taxed they will recieved all of it back if they are in a low income bracket. __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

03-17-2006, 04:24 PM	#13
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,406 Images: 9	I have no problem with that. If they're here legally and playing by the rules, they should be treated accordingly.

03-17-2006, 04:33 PM	#15
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,406 Images: 9	If they're playing by the same rules, they get the same benefits. If you don't like it for them, you shouldn't like it for anyone (and probably don't, I'm guessing).