My U.S. Military Rifle Collection *with pics*

grndesert · 05-11-2006, 10:41 PM

OK just wanted to show everyone my small but promising U.S. Military Rifle
collection.
1st one is a U.S. Springfield US MODEL 1878 Carbine,trapdoor 45/70.It's got
some history behind it.It has a YAKIMA POLICE INDIAN NATION,silver badge,
that's been added to the stock.Easy way to carry your police badge is to
put it on your stock.Here's a pic of the badge.

2nd is the masterpiece U.S. ROCK ISLAND ARSENAL MODEL 1903 Serial#20XXX
I beleive it was made in 1907(thanks G&G members).It's in really good 99yr
old condition.Love the sights and the feel of this rifle.This could be the crown
jewel of my collection,even after I finish it..
3rd is a U.S. Carbine cal .30M1 Postal Meter.Don't know much about it.It say
UNDERWOOD on the barrel.It has 7868 painted on the stock.(don't know if
I should leave the painted numbers or not???).I was kinda wondering if this
was an imported gun or not..Well hope you like th pics.I know I have a long,
long way to go on my collection,but ya gotta start somewhere.

FutureMarine · 05-11-2006, 10:50 PM

Nice!!!!

BattleRifleG3 · 05-12-2006, 08:11 AM

Beautiful!

FutureMarine · 05-14-2006, 12:48 PM

how does it feel shooting the 1903 iin the C stock? My 1903 is in the normal stock, and it feels fine, but the C stock looks like it would be a lot more comfortable

Beer Forever · 05-14-2006, 03:34 PM

I think I like that Mesa half-stack more than the guns!:guitar:

grndesert · 05-16-2006, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FutureMarine

how does it feel shooting the 1903 iin the C stock? My 1903 is in the normal stock, and it feels fine, but the C stock looks like it would be a lot more comfortable

The 1903 is a dream to shoot.Now I know why Alivn York,captured more than
200 german soliders.It's one !!!! of a shooter.I haven't shot another 1903 that's not been sportized.What's the differance FutureMarie,in the stocks.DO
you have a pic?

Dale · 05-16-2006, 10:01 AM

The C stock, such as yours shown, if viewed from the side you show, shows the handgrip part of the stock in the form of a C with a heel butt.

The scant stock has no heel butt and apperars to be straighter from the rear of the receiver to the thicker portion of butt stock.

I have one in both stock styles and I see little diffference in shooting feel but there is a little.

I prefer the loks of the C stock myself.

FutureMarine · 05-16-2006, 01:22 PM

http://tri.army.mil/LC/cs/csi/m1903.jpg

mine is like the top rifle!

mpikeat2002 · 06-03-2006, 07:07 AM

They have a 1903A3 at the local gun shop and I really want it, but it's 700$ and I don't think I want to fork out that much cash!

Full MeTal Jack · 06-03-2006, 02:55 PM

What is the story behind finding the YAKIMA POLICE INDIAN NATION
Springfield 1878 Carbine,trapdoor 45/70?

Gyrene · 06-03-2006, 07:46 PM

grndesert - Most 1903's had a straight stock (so called, because the wrist of the stock was straight, in line with the bottom of the butt stock). The "C" stock is the one your 1903 has, and it was intended for the 1903A1, which was an improved rifle, and set up with the Pedersen Device, including an ejection port cut out on the left side of the receiver.

The Pedersen Device was designed to replace the standard 1903 bolt, making it a semi-auto, that fired a pistol sized cartridge, .30 Cal. The 1903A1 was supposed to enable the US Troops in WWI to advance while maintaining a constant fire from the 30 round stick magazine that was inserted at about a 45 degree angle up and to the right of the bolt. The magazines were easily changed allowing the advancing soldiers to continue firing for a long time.

Not only were some of the 1903's modified to the 1903A1 configuration, but there were many M1917 Enfields (P-17 to the unwashed) set up to use the Pedersen Device.

grndesert · 06-06-2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Full MeTal Jack

What is the story behind finding the YAKIMA POLICE INDIAN NATION
Springfield 1878 Carbine,trapdoor 45/70?

Around 1998 my parents went on a kinda midwest american tour.My father,is
addicted to estate sales,and they were driving somewhere in IOWA????? And
he saw a sign that said estate sale.So he's there... It just happened this
estate sale had lots of guns...LOTS and LOTS..... He bought at least 65 shotguns and rifles(don't know how he did it with a TX driver's license)???
I guess because most of the guns were all made before 1900.Most were
blackpowder Parker's from england,some damacus barrels,and some were
drillings; Side-by-side 12 ga. w/ .30 rifle(or something similiar).Well the
springfield was one of these guns.Not only did my father get all those guns,
but 2 US calvary saddles with struyps,and bridles...(these are his holy grail
of the trip)..Anyway they gun came from there and Iam still researching it,if
and when i find someting out, I'll give everyone some details...

05-11-2006, 10:41 PM	#1
grndesert Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Harris Co. Texas Posts: 133	My U.S. Military Rifle Collection with pics OK just wanted to show everyone my small but promising U.S. Military Rifle collection. 1st one is a U.S. Springfield US MODEL 1878 Carbine,trapdoor 45/70.It's got some history behind it.It has a YAKIMA POLICE INDIAN NATION,silver badge, that's been added to the stock.Easy way to carry your police badge is to put it on your stock.Here's a pic of the badge. 2nd is the masterpiece U.S. ROCK ISLAND ARSENAL MODEL 1903 Serial#20XXX I beleive it was made in 1907(thanks G&G members).It's in really good 99yr old condition.Love the sights and the feel of this rifle.This could be the crown jewel of my collection,even after I finish it.. 3rd is a U.S. Carbine cal .30M1 Postal Meter.Don't know much about it.It say UNDERWOOD on the barrel.It has 7868 painted on the stock.(don't know if I should leave the painted numbers or not???).I was kinda wondering if this was an imported gun or not..Well hope you like th pics.I know I have a long, long way to go on my collection,but ya gotta start somewhere. __________________ I Protect my 1st amendment right by my 2nd amendment right!! :guitar: :gangster:

05-12-2006, 08:11 AM	#3
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Beautiful! __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

05-14-2006, 12:48 PM	#4
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	how does it feel shooting the 1903 iin the C stock? My 1903 is in the normal stock, and it feels fine, but the C stock looks like it would be a lot more comfortable __________________ Semper Fi

05-16-2006, 10:01 AM	#7
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	The C stock, such as yours shown, if viewed from the side you show, shows the handgrip part of the stock in the form of a C with a heel butt. The scant stock has no heel butt and apperars to be straighter from the rear of the receiver to the thicker portion of butt stock. I have one in both stock styles and I see little diffference in shooting feel but there is a little. I prefer the loks of the C stock myself. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

05-16-2006, 01:22 PM	#8
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	http://tri.army.mil/LC/cs/csi/m1903.jpg mine is like the top rifle! __________________ Semper Fi

05-11-2006, 10:50 PM	#2
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	Nice!!!!

05-14-2006, 03:34 PM	#5
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	I think I like that Mesa half-stack more than the guns!:guitar:

06-03-2006, 07:07 AM	#9
mpikeat2002 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 92	They have a 1903A3 at the local gun shop and I really want it, but it's 700$ and I don't think I want to fork out that much cash!

06-03-2006, 02:55 PM	#10
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,427 Images: 1	What is the story behind finding the YAKIMA POLICE INDIAN NATION Springfield 1878 Carbine,trapdoor 45/70? __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

06-03-2006, 07:46 PM	#11
Gyrene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 886	grndesert - Most 1903's had a straight stock (so called, because the wrist of the stock was straight, in line with the bottom of the butt stock). The "C" stock is the one your 1903 has, and it was intended for the 1903A1, which was an improved rifle, and set up with the Pedersen Device, including an ejection port cut out on the left side of the receiver. The Pedersen Device was designed to replace the standard 1903 bolt, making it a semi-auto, that fired a pistol sized cartridge, .30 Cal. The 1903A1 was supposed to enable the US Troops in WWI to advance while maintaining a constant fire from the 30 round stick magazine that was inserted at about a 45 degree angle up and to the right of the bolt. The magazines were easily changed allowing the advancing soldiers to continue firing for a long time. Not only were some of the 1903's modified to the 1903A1 configuration, but there were many M1917 Enfields (P-17 to the unwashed) set up to use the Pedersen Device.