Venezuelan Police Rifle

heilung · 08-19-2006, 07:49 PM

A friend of mine has what he says is a Mauser Venezuelan Railroad Police rifle . It's carbine length but what else distinguishes it as Railroad Police? I couldnt find any details in the usual Mauser books. Is it rare?

FutureMarine · 08-19-2006, 07:53 PM

sounds rare. ive never heard of it

mm_christ · 08-19-2006, 10:14 PM

that it does. Maybe worth big $$$$!

lefty o · 08-19-2006, 10:42 PM

lets ID the rifle before it becomes worth a fortune. what kind of markings are on the rifle?

FutureMarine · 08-19-2006, 10:44 PM

some pics wouldnt kill us!

Big Dog · 08-20-2006, 10:40 AM

Likely it's just the standard Army model - many police departments used to get hand-me-downs from the military. It may or may not receive any particular "police" markings. But, some good pics would be nice.

heilung · 08-21-2006, 07:31 PM

Here are some details from a friends rifle.. If you look close (click on the picher), the bolt has a rampant animal over a pV. The Venezuelan label is typical as is the Belgian manufacture for short (37.5") overall rifles. 18.25" barrel. Do the marks under "Venezuela" mean anything? and what does the number on the stock mean?

Big Dog · 08-22-2006, 06:02 PM

The marking "FUERZAS ARMADAS de VENEZUELA" means "Armed Forces of Venezuela", so it began as a standard FN 24/30 rifle on the military contract.
The stock number is the "Rack Number" seen on many army rifles worldwide.
The critter on the bolt is really interesting! I've never seen this mark before.
I wonder if the PV means "Policia Venezuela"?

heilung · 08-24-2006, 10:27 PM

Si senor. Thats what I thought about the pV. Any Mauser experts on this? Heilung
Update 9/8/06: The marks under the Venezuela are Belgian proof marks seen on other rifles, including longer.models.

Scorch · 09-18-2006, 02:37 PM

I believe the PV means it was tested with smokeless powder loads. Same as the N / crown mark.

Police carbines are usually marked "Carabineros" meaning paramilitary police. They are also marked as Government guns, not military rifles. I have never seen a Venezuelan police carbine, but I have seen numerous Argentine.

heilung · 09-18-2006, 04:51 PM

Scorch, your right, the pV appears on some other Belgian carbines that never made it to South America. So what do your think this Venezuelan carbine was supposed to be used for? It actually wasn't used, it looks new. Heilung

08-19-2006, 07:49 PM	#1
heilung Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 225 Trader Rating: (0)	Venezuelan Police Rifle A friend of mine has what he says is a Mauser Venezuelan Railroad Police rifle . It's carbine length but what else distinguishes it as Railroad Police? I couldnt find any details in the usual Mauser books. Is it rare?

08-19-2006, 07:53 PM	#2
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946 Trader Rating: (0)	sounds rare. ive never heard of it __________________ Semper Fi

08-19-2006, 10:14 PM	#3
mm_christ Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: RAF Mildenhall 100 ARW Posts: 235 Trader Rating: (0)	that it does. Maybe worth big $$$$! __________________ I belong to the chair force...literally!!!

08-19-2006, 10:44 PM	#5
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946 Trader Rating: (0)	some pics wouldnt kill us! __________________ Semper Fi

08-20-2006, 10:40 AM	#6
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,059 Trader Rating: (0)	Likely it's just the standard Army model - many police departments used to get hand-me-downs from the military. It may or may not receive any particular "police" markings. But, some good pics would be nice. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

08-19-2006, 10:42 PM	#4
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,690 Trader Rating: (0)	lets ID the rifle before it becomes worth a fortune. what kind of markings are on the rifle?

08-22-2006, 06:02 PM	#8
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,059 Trader Rating: (0)	The marking "FUERZAS ARMADAS de VENEZUELA" means "Armed Forces of Venezuela", so it began as a standard FN 24/30 rifle on the military contract. The stock number is the "Rack Number" seen on many army rifles worldwide. The critter on the bolt is really interesting! I've never seen this mark before. I wonder if the PV means "Policia Venezuela"? __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

08-24-2006, 10:27 PM	#9
heilung Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 225 Trader Rating: (0)	Beats a Pistola Si senor. Thats what I thought about the pV. Any Mauser experts on this? Heilung Update 9/8/06: The marks under the Venezuela are Belgian proof marks seen on other rifles, including longer.models. Last edited by heilung; 09-08-2006 at 07:38 PM.

09-18-2006, 02:37 PM	#10
Scorch Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0)	I believe the PV means it was tested with smokeless powder loads. Same as the N / crown mark. Police carbines are usually marked "Carabineros" meaning paramilitary police. They are also marked as Government guns, not military rifles. I have never seen a Venezuelan police carbine, but I have seen numerous Argentine.

09-18-2006, 04:51 PM	#11
heilung Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 225 Trader Rating: (0)	Scorch, your right, the pV appears on some other Belgian carbines that never made it to South America. So what do your think this Venezuelan carbine was supposed to be used for? It actually wasn't used, it looks new. Heilung