Coyote hunting with 17HMR

Shoot-it · 01-23-2007, 04:48 PM

Has anyone shot any coyotes with there hmr at 100 yards.What do you think about it. I killed one a few weeks ago with mine..http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t/100_1012.jpg

i used a 20 gr fmj

jwhunter · 01-23-2007, 07:08 PM

I have tried to use the round for several didnt hunting situations...... NO LUCK!! I dont think very highly of the round but im glad your having some luck. Its hard to shoot that light of a bullet with any wind at all. I think its fun for plinking but ammo is a little high. Is yours the rimfire of centerfire?

DennisB · 01-23-2007, 07:42 PM

I've shot one coyote with the HMR, just inside 100 yards, and don't recommend it. The little Gamepoint passed through both lungs and kept going--so did the 'yote, for some 80-100 yards into thick brush. If it had been a night hunt I doubt I'd have recovered him.

This coyote/17HMR debate will go on much like the 223/deer discussions, I'll bet.

rdnckhnter · 01-24-2007, 05:16 PM

personally i dont think hmr is a good idea the bullet will pass throught the animal so easily i recommend something like a .243

Lng Rng · 01-24-2007, 09:56 PM

I own a .17 HMR, and would not recomend one for hunting coyote. If you head shoot one, it will kill it, but the little 17 grain bullets are not constructed to take down a 40 pound game animal. Yotes are best suited to a larger round.

Shoot-it · 01-25-2007, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rdnckhnter

personally i dont think hmr is a good idea the bullet will pass throught the animal so easily i recommend something like a .243

243 will pass right on threw it to. I used the 243 for them and its a great round the 17 will work close up.

rdnckhnter · 01-25-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoot-it

243 will pass right on threw it to. I used the 243 for them and its a great round the 17 will work close up.

your right but the 243 will expand more and befor the 17 will

silentknight · 01-25-2007, 03:51 PM

I had a 17HMR a while ago and loved the round. But you need to stick with its intended uses: rabbit, squirel, prarie dog, but the biggest I'd take a shot at would be a ground hog

Lng Rng · 01-25-2007, 09:44 PM

Trouble is, the V-max's that come with most 17 HMR bulets don't really "expand." They completly blow up, giving you very little penetration. A very good round on anything under 15 pounds.

frozentorso · 01-28-2007, 11:06 PM

I feel the HMR is suitable for such game as the Secropia moth or grasshopper, and possibly on more dangerous game such as bumble bees and red wasps, providing the shooter is absolutely certain a clean thorax shot can be made.

Zen900 · 01-28-2007, 11:25 PM

Are you guys talking about a BB gun or the 17HMR?

Lng Rng · 01-29-2007, 12:06 AM

The 17HMR. Here is how I feel on the round. On game that you would otherwise shoot with a .22, it is fine, and probably does a better job than a .22. You can't, just because it shoots fast and flat, shoot anything larger than you could with a .22

Zen900 · 01-29-2007, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lng Rng

The 17HMR. Here is how I feel on the round. On game that you would otherwise shoot with a .22, it is fine, and probably does a better job than a .22. You can't, just because it shoots fast and flat, shoot anything larger than you could with a .22

Thr 17mach2 is comparable and even superior to the 22LR. The 17HMR is comparable to the 22magnum. The 17hmr is faster and the 22magnum carries more energy.But in actuality they are 4 completely different rounds. M2 is a bit much for squirrels for it will cut a squirrel in two nearly. It's got 30% more range than 22lr. Both the 22magnum and the 17hmr are more powerful than the 17mach2.

Lng Rng · 01-29-2007, 04:19 PM

That is because all a 17 HMR is is a necked down .22 WMR and a mach 2 is a necked down 22 LR. The main difference is the size and shape of the lead that they shoot. A .22 shoots a little, round slug, where a .17 shoots a bullet more similar to most other rifles. A .22 bullet is about double the size of the .17's. I consider the m2 a fine round on squirrel, just make a good head shot. The question on weather it is a good coyote round comes down to bullet size and construction, both of which are inadaqute for game the size of a coyote. A 17 grain bullet isn't designed for game that large.

Zen900 · 01-29-2007, 05:46 PM

17HMR and HM2 Trajectory Chart - RimfireCentral.com Forums

This chart doesn't include the 22magnum but is very informative. Anybody out there have any charts on the 17hmr vs the 22 magnum?

frozentorso · 01-29-2007, 08:07 PM

All joking aside, buy more gun for predators. At least .223. I hate Coyotes more than most but they still deserve to croak quickly and cleanly.

Lng Rng · 01-29-2007, 08:21 PM

Agreed. .223 ammo is just as cheap as HMR ammo anyways.

Zen900 · 01-29-2007, 09:18 PM

I shall have to abandon my attempts to inform the masses about the mighty ability of the poor misunderstood little 17 caliber. Alas it was not to be.

Perhaps if I regale you of storys of..............nevermind.

Lng Rng · 01-29-2007, 09:56 PM

I own a .17 HMR, as I said, and I fully know what it is capable of. Nobody here is doubting its killing power, its great ballistics or superiority to the .22 lr. The question was is it a good coyote round, and my opinion is no, its not. Never said anything bad about it, all that I am trying to say is that I personally would not take it on a coyote hunt. When I shoot an animal, I want quick results, which is why when I coyote hunt, I reach past my 17 hmr and grab my .223.

Zen900 · 01-29-2007, 10:18 PM

Too late Lng Rng. I've already taken my 17 and beat it into a plow share.

01-23-2007, 04:48 PM	#1
Shoot-it Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: C,A Posts: 7	Coyote hunting with 17HMR Has anyone shot any coyotes with there hmr at 100 yards.What do you think about it. I killed one a few weeks ago with mine..http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t/100_1012.jpg i used a 20 gr fmj Last edited by Shoot-it; 01-23-2007 at 11:22 PM.

01-23-2007, 07:42 PM	#3
DennisB Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 8	17 Hmr I've shot one coyote with the HMR, just inside 100 yards, and don't recommend it. The little Gamepoint passed through both lungs and kept going--so did the 'yote, for some 80-100 yards into thick brush. If it had been a night hunt I doubt I'd have recovered him. This coyote/17HMR debate will go on much like the 223/deer discussions, I'll bet.

01-24-2007, 05:16 PM	#4
rdnckhnter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pennsylvania and new jersey right on the bored Posts: 182	personally i dont think hmr is a good idea the bullet will pass throught the animal so easily i recommend something like a .243 __________________ My long hair dont cover my redneck and u know what im ok with that

01-25-2007, 03:51 PM	#8
silentknight Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,125 Images: 3	I had a 17HMR a while ago and loved the round. But you need to stick with its intended uses: rabbit, squirel, prarie dog, but the biggest I'd take a shot at would be a ground hog __________________ Sic Vis Pacem Parabellum

01-28-2007, 11:06 PM	#10
frozentorso Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North East Texas Posts: 592	I feel the HMR is suitable for such game as the Secropia moth or grasshopper, and possibly on more dangerous game such as bumble bees and red wasps, providing the shooter is absolutely certain a clean thorax shot can be made. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry. Thats just my game!"

01-23-2007, 07:08 PM	#2
jwhunter Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 61	I have tried to use the round for several didnt hunting situations...... NO LUCK!! I dont think very highly of the round but im glad your having some luck. Its hard to shoot that light of a bullet with any wind at all. I think its fun for plinking but ammo is a little high. Is yours the rimfire of centerfire?

01-24-2007, 09:56 PM	#5
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 944	I own a .17 HMR, and would not recomend one for hunting coyote. If you head shoot one, it will kill it, but the little 17 grain bullets are not constructed to take down a 40 pound game animal. Yotes are best suited to a larger round.

01-25-2007, 09:44 PM	#9
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 944	Trouble is, the V-max's that come with most 17 HMR bulets don't really "expand." They completly blow up, giving you very little penetration. A very good round on anything under 15 pounds.

01-28-2007, 11:25 PM	#11
Zen900 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 700	Are you guys talking about a BB gun or the 17HMR?

01-29-2007, 12:06 AM	#12
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 944	The 17HMR. Here is how I feel on the round. On game that you would otherwise shoot with a .22, it is fine, and probably does a better job than a .22. You can't, just because it shoots fast and flat, shoot anything larger than you could with a .22

01-29-2007, 04:19 PM	#14
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 944	That is because all a 17 HMR is is a necked down .22 WMR and a mach 2 is a necked down 22 LR. The main difference is the size and shape of the lead that they shoot. A .22 shoots a little, round slug, where a .17 shoots a bullet more similar to most other rifles. A .22 bullet is about double the size of the .17's. I consider the m2 a fine round on squirrel, just make a good head shot. The question on weather it is a good coyote round comes down to bullet size and construction, both of which are inadaqute for game the size of a coyote. A 17 grain bullet isn't designed for game that large.

01-29-2007, 05:46 PM	#15
Zen900 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 700	17HMR and HM2 Trajectory Chart - RimfireCentral.com Forums This chart doesn't include the 22magnum but is very informative. Anybody out there have any charts on the 17hmr vs the 22 magnum?

01-29-2007, 08:07 PM	#16
frozentorso Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North East Texas Posts: 592	All joking aside, buy more gun for predators. At least .223. I hate Coyotes more than most but they still deserve to croak quickly and cleanly. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry. Thats just my game!"

01-29-2007, 08:21 PM	#17
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 944	Agreed. .223 ammo is just as cheap as HMR ammo anyways.

01-29-2007, 09:18 PM	#18
Zen900 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 700	I shall have to abandon my attempts to inform the masses about the mighty ability of the poor misunderstood little 17 caliber. Alas it was not to be. Perhaps if I regale you of storys of..............nevermind.

01-29-2007, 09:56 PM	#19
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 944	I own a .17 HMR, as I said, and I fully know what it is capable of. Nobody here is doubting its killing power, its great ballistics or superiority to the .22 lr. The question was is it a good coyote round, and my opinion is no, its not. Never said anything bad about it, all that I am trying to say is that I personally would not take it on a coyote hunt. When I shoot an animal, I want quick results, which is why when I coyote hunt, I reach past my 17 hmr and grab my .223.

01-29-2007, 10:18 PM	#20
Zen900 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 700	Too late Lng Rng. I've already taken my 17 and beat it into a plow share.