grip safety deactivator

golem1961 · 04-04-2007, 12:11 AM

I am doing some research and I need some input. Would anyone be interested in a device that would deactivate the grip safety, not require any gunsmithing, not require any modifications to the firearm, causes no marring or damage and costs under 10 bucks? Please let me know if this would be a worthwhile project. thanks

DevilsJohnson · 04-04-2007, 01:51 AM

I've not actually thought about it but what is this thing actually?

Rookie_Rover · 04-04-2007, 02:01 AM

Why would you want to kill one of only two safeties on a firearm with a light trigger pull?

Never done it myself, just curious why a person would want to.

M1D-Garand · 04-04-2007, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rookie_Rover

Why would you want to kill one of only two safeties on a firearm with a light trigger pull?

Never done it myself, just curious why a person would want to.

One of my 1911's has no grip safety.
This was already so when I bought the gun.
I know in Europe a lot of 1911 owners have this done because they are involved in "action shooting" (steelplates and the likes)
It seems to me that it is an job that can be done easy without gunsmithing but I have to compare both 1911's to see what is the difference!

Rob

lefty o · 04-04-2007, 04:53 AM

um..... its already been done, but nobody sells it or installs it in someone elses gun due to liability.

billy · 04-04-2007, 07:34 AM

its just me but there are lotsa things i could do to my 1911 and that aint one of em!

golem1961 · 04-04-2007, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rookie_Rover

Why would you want to kill one of only two safeties on a firearm with a light trigger pull?

Never done it myself, just curious why a person would want to.

Most automatic designs have done just fine without a grip safety. There is historical evidence that browning himself was opposed to the idea, but incorporated the idea into the 1911 design to placate the top brass in the calvery who distrusted his newfangled pistol. I have mine deactivated for the simple reason of speed. If you have ever drawn quickly and tried to engage a target only to find your grip is a little to high or low to engage the grip safety, you will understand.

rfc357 · 04-04-2007, 06:30 PM

And if you should be unlucky enough to have to shoot someone in self defense, and have inactivated your grip safety, God help you when you get into court. (You will get into court.) So says my attorney. If you want a pistol without a grip safety, get a pistol without a grip safety in the design.

golem1961 · 04-04-2007, 09:19 PM

I live in a castle doctrine state, I will not get into court for a righteous shooting, Thats the law, I can shoot 'em club 'em or impale 'em on a sharp stick without the fear of an overzealous D.A. . But defense pistols are not the market I have in mind. I was thinking more along the lines of competition shooters.

lefty o · 04-05-2007, 03:07 AM

competition shooters just cut the ears off of the backside of the grip safety, if it bothers them. or cut up a wilson combat shok-buffer and jam it between the mainspring housing and grip safety.

Moss500Bantam · 04-05-2007, 11:28 AM

We can be open minded?

Novak 1911

golem1961 · 04-05-2007, 11:57 PM

Thank you moss. Anyway, I can see which way the wind blows, here at least. but I have decided to go ahead with the project for the simple reason that if it causes this much controversey it must be something that people feel strongly about.

lefty o · 04-06-2007, 07:45 AM

its your money, but i already told you how to do it for less than a buck.

billy · 04-06-2007, 07:49 AM

super glue!

Moss500Bantam · 04-06-2007, 08:11 AM

It's interesting to note that the original grip safety didn't have as much of an issue. The higher and wider the grip safety got the more of a chance for lack of good contact, hence bump pads etc.

I would not be afraid to use the Novak mod. I don't see it any differently than after market sights or other options. I could see where a bubba job may cause legal or functional issues.

Most importantly, enjoy your 1911.

billy · 04-06-2007, 08:22 AM

Most importantly, enjoy your 1911.: now that is good advice! lord knows i do!

JBS · 04-06-2007, 05:52 PM

Couple of rubber bands seems like a cost effective remedy to a problem that doesn't exist. IMHOFWIWBG

Dam I bees smart.

golem1961 · 04-07-2007, 09:58 AM

This would be no bubba job. I wish I could show you what it is but the patent info while filed has not been replied to yet.

Mooseman684 · 04-07-2007, 12:42 PM

I hope you carry Multi-million dollar Product liability Insurance because nothing is fool proof to a sufficiently talented fool !

JBS · 04-07-2007, 01:01 PM

AMEN TO THAT!! Lotsa fools out here..

04-04-2007, 12:11 AM	#1
golem1961 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodville tx. Vienna Il. Posts: 75	grip safety deactivator I am doing some research and I need some input. Would anyone be interested in a device that would deactivate the grip safety, not require any gunsmithing, not require any modifications to the firearm, causes no marring or damage and costs under 10 bucks? Please let me know if this would be a worthwhile project. thanks

04-04-2007, 02:01 AM	#3
Rookie_Rover Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Western Tennessee. Posts: 300	Why would you want to kill one of only two safeties on a firearm with a light trigger pull? Never done it myself, just curious why a person would want to. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself – Twain.

04-05-2007, 11:57 PM	#12
golem1961 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodville tx. Vienna Il. Posts: 75	Thank you moss. Anyway, I can see which way the wind blows, here at least. but I have decided to go ahead with the project for the simple reason that if it causes this much controversey it must be something that people feel strongly about. Last edited by golem1961; 04-06-2007 at 12:06 AM.

04-07-2007, 12:42 PM	#19
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,668 Images: 2	I hope you carry Multi-million dollar Product liability Insurance because nothing is fool proof to a sufficiently talented fool ! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-04-2007, 01:51 AM	#2
DevilsJohnson Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5	I've not actually thought about it but what is this thing actually?

04-04-2007, 04:53 AM	#5
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,799	um..... its already been done, but nobody sells it or installs it in someone elses gun due to liability.

04-04-2007, 07:34 AM	#6
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,106 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	its just me but there are lotsa things i could do to my 1911 and that aint one of em!

04-04-2007, 06:30 PM	#8
rfc357 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 741	And if you should be unlucky enough to have to shoot someone in self defense, and have inactivated your grip safety, God help you when you get into court. (You *will* get into court.) So says my attorney. If you want a pistol without a grip safety, get a pistol without a grip safety in the design.

04-04-2007, 09:19 PM	#9
golem1961 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodville tx. Vienna Il. Posts: 75	I live in a castle doctrine state, I will not get into court for a righteous shooting, Thats the law, I can shoot 'em club 'em or impale 'em on a sharp stick without the fear of an overzealous D.A. . But defense pistols are not the market I have in mind. I was thinking more along the lines of competition shooters.

04-05-2007, 03:07 AM	#10
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,799	competition shooters just cut the ears off of the backside of the grip safety, if it bothers them. or cut up a wilson combat shok-buffer and jam it between the mainspring housing and grip safety.

04-05-2007, 11:28 AM	#11
Moss500Bantam Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 257	We can be open minded? Novak 1911

04-06-2007, 07:45 AM	#13
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,799	its your money, but i already told you how to do it for less than a buck.

04-06-2007, 07:49 AM	#14
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,106 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	super glue!

04-06-2007, 08:11 AM	#15
Moss500Bantam Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 257	It's interesting to note that the original grip safety didn't have as much of an issue. The higher and wider the grip safety got the more of a chance for lack of good contact, hence bump pads etc. I would not be afraid to use the Novak mod. I don't see it any differently than after market sights or other options. I could see where a bubba job may cause legal or functional issues. Most importantly, enjoy your 1911.

04-06-2007, 08:22 AM	#16
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,106 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	Most importantly, enjoy your 1911.: now that is good advice! lord knows i do!

04-06-2007, 05:52 PM	#17
JBS Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 761	Couple of rubber bands seems like a cost effective remedy to a problem that doesn't exist. IMHOFWIWBG Dam I bees smart.

04-07-2007, 09:58 AM	#18
golem1961 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodville tx. Vienna Il. Posts: 75	This would be no bubba job. I wish I could show you what it is but the patent info while filed has not been replied to yet.

04-07-2007, 01:01 PM	#20
JBS Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 761	AMEN TO THAT!! Lotsa fools out here..