thanks Chris!

Jay1958 · 10-14-2006, 10:36 PM

Special thanks to Chris for this new Bersa topic!

If you have experience with any Bersa products, I'd like to here your thoughts and comments. I'm considering getting a Bersa Ultra Compact 9mm, so any thoughts on those would be really great.

Thanks,

Jay1958

Apollyon67 · 10-15-2006, 09:41 PM

I have a Bersa in .380. Love it. So far, no jams. I have tried quite a few different loads in it. Just a couple of boxes each and have stuck with the UMC 95gr FMJ stuff. I understand that shooting the Thunder with your hand high on the backstrap might bite you with the slide. I didn't have this trouble with the few I have fired, though I have small hands, so it may just be me. Range reports are due within the first month of purchase. LOL and Pics, did I mention pics?

Jay1958 · 10-15-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Apollyon67

Range reports are due within the first month of purchase. LOL and Pics, did I mention pics?

Already gave my range report for the first trip to the range: 57 rounds with absolutely no problems, and was accurate at 15 feet and 25 feet, even in 'quick draw and fire' mode from my concealment holster.

Here are pics of my T380CC. I included a 20-dollar bill and a quarter in one of the photos for size reference.

I know the quality of the pics isn't great, but hey, all I have on hand tonight is my camera phone.

Best regards,

Jay1958

pap1105 · 01-20-2007, 09:38 PM

looks good i want one

Jeff264 · 04-21-2007, 03:42 PM

Bersa? I bought a Bersa .380 Auto NIB. Took it to the range, first shot the slide flew off the receiver. Wouldn't take another Bersa if you gave it to me.

Jay1958 · 04-21-2007, 11:31 PM

I understand your position, because of your bad experience, but there are many of us who have had great experiences with Bersa, and bad experiences with other manufacturers. My friend bought a Glock, and the first time he fired it, the sights fell off. He kept the Glock, had the sights re-installed and he has had no more problems and he is very happy with it.

Neither one of these experiences, yours or his, means that all Bersas and all Glocks are "no good".

Jay1958

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Originally Posted by Jeff264

Bersa? I bought a Bersa .380 Auto NIB. Took it to the range, first shot the slide flew off the receiver. Wouldn't take another Bersa if you gave it to me.

DWARREN123 · 04-22-2007, 04:51 AM

I have a Bersa .380 ACP Thunder Duo Tone. I have put about 1800 rounds thru it with no problem. I can not believe how accurate, reliable and easy to shoot for a $250 semi auto. Next to my Ruger revolvers the best liked handgun I have owned.

Jeff264 · 04-27-2007, 09:55 PM

Jay1958,
Speaking of Glocks, a friend of mine had a Glock 19, 9mm cal. It stove piped so often that you had to keep a screw driver in your back pocket to dislodge the unspent casing. Several times I had to slide the screw driver down the barrel and "punch" a tree to dislodge the shell. Maybe things have improved today. But years ago even the New York City police lodged many complaints against the Glock for the same problem. On the other hand my friend had a Glock model 21 (.45 cal) that preformed flawlessly. It became my wife's favorite handgun. Go figure. All things considered, Glock would not be my first choice for personal protection. I'd take a Smith or a Ruger over a Glock any day. Neither have failed me at any time. Firearms, like motorcycles, if you leave me stranded, you're history.
Period.

Jay1958 · 04-27-2007, 11:44 PM

Hi Jeff264,

I completely understand your position, and I won't argue or even disagree with it. However, I guess from my point of view, even though my Bersa and my Ruger have never failed me, I know that there are people out there who have been failed by a Bersa and failed by a Ruger. Guns are machines, and machines fail. The real question is not: will it fail? the real question is: what is the failure rate and average usable life for this particular item? and what is the average MTBF? or average MRBF?

Best regards,

Jay1958

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff264

Jay1958,
Speaking of Glocks, a friend of mine had a Glock 19, 9mm cal. It stove piped so often that you had to keep a screw driver in your back pocket to dislodge the unspent casing. Several times I had to slide the screw driver down the barrel and "punch" a tree to dislodge the shell. Maybe things have improved today. But years ago even the New York City police lodged many complaints against the Glock for the same problem. On the other hand my friend had a Glock model 21 (.45 cal) that preformed flawlessly. It became my wife's favorite handgun. Go figure. All things considered, Glock would not be my first choice for personal protection. I'd take a Smith or a Ruger over a Glock any day. Neither have failed me at any time. Firearms, like motorcycles, if you leave me stranded, you're history.
Period.

dgray64 · 05-04-2008, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay1958

Special thanks to Chris for this new Bersa topic!

If you have experience with any Bersa products, I'd like to here your thoughts and comments. I'm considering getting a Bersa Ultra Compact 9mm, so any thoughts on those would be really great.

Thanks,

Jay1958

Bersa's OK, but...I got rid of mine for two reasons. The first is that the de-cocker lever would drop down occasionally while I was firing. The second reason was that there is a huge difference between the first, double action pull and the subsequent, single action shots. The targets showed the difference.

I finally said goodbye to it and got a Kel-Tec. Actually got two, a P-11 9mm and a P3AT in .380. Both are super accurate, and have uniform trigger pulls.

The choice is yours, but try the Bersa with serious target shooting using both double action and single action. Good luck in your choice.

Dave

squirrelbaster · 05-05-2008, 07:54 PM

i have a bersa thunder 380 and its a great gun, the only problem is that its gotten so that i cant hardly afourd to buy 380 ammo, i should have gotten it in 9mm. oh and it does not seem to like hallow points, but has eaten literaly everything else i have fed it.

10-14-2006, 10:36 PM	#1
Jay1958 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 161 Trader Rating: (0)	thanks Chris! Special thanks to Chris for this new Bersa topic! If you have experience with any Bersa products, I'd like to here your thoughts and comments. I'm considering getting a Bersa Ultra Compact 9mm, so any thoughts on those would be really great. Thanks, Jay1958 __________________ http://www.yourweapons.com/

10-15-2006, 09:41 PM	#2
Apollyon67 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 2,222 Trader Rating: (0)	I have a Bersa in .380. Love it. So far, no jams. I have tried quite a few different loads in it. Just a couple of boxes each and have stuck with the UMC 95gr FMJ stuff. I understand that shooting the Thunder with your hand high on the backstrap might bite you with the slide. I didn't have this trouble with the few I have fired, though I have small hands, so it may just be me. Range reports are due within the first month of purchase. LOL and Pics, did I mention pics? __________________ "To err is human, to repent divine; to persist devilish." Ben Franklin

04-22-2007, 04:51 AM	#7
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 731 Trader Rating: (0)	I have a Bersa .380 ACP Thunder Duo Tone. I have put about 1800 rounds thru it with no problem. I can not believe how accurate, reliable and easy to shoot for a $250 semi auto. Next to my Ruger revolvers the best liked handgun I have owned. __________________ Have a nice day!

05-05-2008, 07:54 PM	#11
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,008 Trader Rating: (0)	i have a bersa thunder 380 and its a great gun, the only problem is that its gotten so that i cant hardly afourd to buy 380 ammo, i should have gotten it in 9mm. oh and it does not seem to like hallow points, but has eaten literaly everything else i have fed it. __________________ "My Shotgun SAYS I AM the POLICE !"--Mooseman684 "I like Turtles!" youtube kid

01-20-2007, 09:38 PM	#4
pap1105 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: pittsburgh pa Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0)	looks good i want one

04-21-2007, 03:42 PM	#5
Jeff264 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0)	Bersa? I bought a Bersa .380 Auto NIB. Took it to the range, first shot the slide flew off the receiver. Wouldn't take another Bersa if you gave it to me.

04-27-2007, 09:55 PM	#8
Jeff264 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0)	Jay1958, Speaking of Glocks, a friend of mine had a Glock 19, 9mm cal. It stove piped so often that you had to keep a screw driver in your back pocket to dislodge the unspent casing. Several times I had to slide the screw driver down the barrel and "punch" a tree to dislodge the shell. Maybe things have improved today. But years ago even the New York City police lodged many complaints against the Glock for the same problem. On the other hand my friend had a Glock model 21 (.45 cal) that preformed flawlessly. It became my wife's favorite handgun. Go figure. All things considered, Glock would not be my first choice for personal protection. I'd take a Smith or a Ruger over a Glock any day. Neither have failed me at any time. Firearms, like motorcycles, if you leave me stranded, you're history. Period.