Recommended Ammo for Carry?

[CrazyIvan]

I like Federal Premium Personal Defense Hydra-Shok JHP ammo. They have some great impact tests... I use the 90 Grain in my .380.

Here is the website:


Federal Premium Ballistics

[Deersniper]

Aguila 117 gr in .45 is fast and accurate. You can show that you used the softest load possible. They are 20.99 a 20 pack. My springer Champ likes them.

[Mooseman684]

Glad you agree with me Deersniper...They are Great , I just wish they were cheaper...

[F. Paul Figliaq]

I always thought the heavier (and therefore slower) bullets not only imparted more energy to the target but the slower rounds also minimized the danger of overpenetration. At least that's what our department armorers always told me. Can someone enlighten me??

Based on this thinking, I've always loaded up with 230 grain rounds for the 45ACP and 180 grainers for the 40SW. I'm partial to Federal Hydrashok

For anyone interested - Page 14 of the XD45 manual specifically warns against the use of: (1) Frangible ammo (2) ultra light weight projectiles at elevated velocities or (3) shotshells.

Anyone know why??? Anyone care??

[big4by4]

the light loads wont cycle the heavy spring-slide

[Calvin]

I also carry Hornady TAP. I still like the Hydra-Shocks, but I only use H-S's in my personal weapons I have not qualified with at my PD. All the weapons I have qualified with carry the TAP (department-issued). I like them both and would highly recommend them.
The only caliber I use any other ammo in is my .357's. For them I use Remington Golden Sabers or Texas Deerstoppers (158-grain). The Remingtons are for my snubbies and the TD's are for my revolvers with 4" or longer barrels.

[Dale]

Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Chris,
For the .45 acp I carry 117 grain ICQ Aguila Rounds in my Colt and my Kimber.
They are very accurate, with less recoil , and designed to do maximum damage with a higher velocity.
Rich

117 grain in a .45 ACP?????

[Deersniper]

Mooseman is right samuel, that Aguilla is hot stuff, and accurate. It screams at about 1350 and punches a bigger hole than ball in the paper. And Bark, the other guys will take notice of your shots with that stuff. I'm paying about 14.00 for 20 which is OK.

[just_a_car]

I've got a case of Winchester Ranger Talon 165gr "LE-only" ammo on the way. It's going to be my carry ammo for my G27.

[HEMI]

180 hydra shoks personal 40 or155 gold dots in my duty gun .

[Doctor Larry K]

Hornady 155 gr HP/XTP in my primary CC Glock 29 10 mm. and Ranger SXT LE 230 gr in my 1911A1s 45 ACPs.

Doc

[meatloaf]

I use hydro shock in my colt 45. Looks mean enough to get the job done right.

[fn gunner]

try extreme shock those are some bad mofo's

[just_a_car]

Originally Posted by fn gunner

try extreme shock those are some bad mofo's

It sure looks bad, but looks can be deceiving, you be the judge: The Box O' Truth #23 - ExtremeShock™ Ammo and the Box O' Truth - Page 1

[Otter]

I carry International Cartridge Company Sinterfire frangible hollow points in both my .45 & 9MM. I also use them in my AR15 and my Savage 7.62X51MM sniper rifle.

[HEMI]

Gimmick, I'll stick with whats proven.

[Doctor Larry K]

I use hydro shocks for SD and Fiocchi for practice plus some Winchester I have had for several years.

[Zen900]

Originally Posted by just_a_car

It sure looks bad, but looks can be deceiving, you be the judge: The Box O' Truth #23 - ExtremeShock™ Ammo and the Box O' Truth - Page 1

Very interesting things at Box O' Truth. Here's another one that was an eye opener. I now carry 9mm Mak ball ammo beause of this link.The Box O' Truth #26 - Little Guns vs. The Box O' Truth - Page 1

[Slow Fuse]

Originally Posted by Dale

Gold Dot in my 9MM and .45ACP.
Standard hollow points in the Mak since I can't find Gold Dots for it (not even sure if they are made in 9X18).

Dale.
you can get the Gold Dots at midway for rewloading

Mike

Don't drink the water, fish poop in it

[CrazyIvan]

Originally Posted by F. Paul Figliaq

I always thought the heavier (and therefore slower) bullets not only imparted more energy to the target but the slower rounds also minimized the danger of overpenetration. At least that's what our department armorers always told me. Can someone enlighten me??

A heavier object has greater inertia, therefore is more difficult to slow and stop its velocity and trajectory. You also have to consider the fact that there is the same surface area with more mass. Think of it like an 18 wheeler. Which is more difficult to stop? An 18-wheeler loaded with a 75,000 lb load or an 18-wheeler that is empty? Same exterior size, shape, brakes, surface area, etc...but different mass.

Lighter objects are more easily manipulated by outside forces, easier to slow and stop. But, like a .22 caliber round...it is very easy to stop, but it does a great amount of damage because it can not support its own mass while it slows down, so it blows apart. This would be comparible to say...a human, 180lbs, jumping off of a 12th floor window. SPLAT, blows apart on impact. But, drop an Iron anvil, 180lbs, from the same height and it will be perfectly fine.

Actual tissue damage is negligible. A .22 caliber round will enter the flesh and explode about 1"-2" into the body. The fragments will continue until they hit bone or are stopped by their own deceleration. So, though it may not penetrate a lot, if you hit someone in the liver or lung, it can do a great deal of damage. A heavier round may over-penetrate, but you can be sure that it will not stop before it hits something vital. If it hits the breast bone, it most likely will go through it and continue on, possibly lodging in the spine or exiting through the back.

Cops shoot usually only when they are being charged by someone or when someone threatens them with a weapon. There are gunfights, when rifles come in handy. But to stop an aggressor, typically maximum penetration (which includes over-penetration) is desired so that they know if they shoot at the heart or something, it isn't going to be stopped before it gets there. They want to stop the aggressor in their tracks.

Then, when you look at the military, for example, the 5.56mm round... Typically military firefights are conducted between 100 and 400 yards. The rifle is more accurate at this distance, of course. But, when you hit someone, it may not stop them in their tracks. It will probably incapacitate them and cause them to stop shooting at you, which is more the point than to drop them where they stand. Rifle rounds tend to penetrate a bit more, not because they weigh less, but because of the increased velocity from the additional power as well as the fact that the 5.56mm round will have the same shotgun effect on impact as a .22, but more penetration.