Boy Scouts need our help....

NRAJOE · 09-29-2003, 12:12 PM

Boy Scouts Need Our Help!
Tell Philly to Honor Their Commitments!

ISSUE: According to a new article by Hans Zeiger, former Eagle Scout and now president of the Scout Honor Coalition (scoutoath.tripod.com), "'A Scout is trustworthy.' But the City of Philadelphia isn't keeping a 75-year old promise to the Boy Scouts."

In 1928, the Philadelphia City Council took note of the good turns that the Boy Scouts were doing throughout the city. The city council voted in favor of allowing the Cradle of Liberty Boy Scout Council to utilize a half-acre plot of public land at 22nd and Winter Streets "in perpetuity." By 1929, construction of the Boy Scout Resource Center was complete.

Today, three quarters of a century years later, Philadelphia's Cradle of Liberty Boy Scout Council is being told that it will be KICKED OUT of the historic headquarters because of the Boy Scouts' policy excluding homosexuals and atheists from positions of leadership and membership.

Last week, the Philadelphia mayor's Chief of Staff, Joyce Wilkerson, informed the Boy Scouts of a policy opinion by City Solicitor Nelson Diaz. Diaz decided that the city's non-discrimination policies are in direct conflict with the Boy Scouts' rent-free land use. The city will give the Scouts one year to leave the land or compromise on moral virtue and retain use of the headquarters.

The City of Philadelphia is doing government as usual, breaking promises and neglecting the importance of traditional values. Non-discrimination codes, like the one being applied in Philadelphia, have exacted a great cost from the civic virtue of our cities. Government should be neutral on many issues, but government should never be value neutral.

No one should be forced to be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent. But the City of Philadelphia should have the instinctive desire to say that it encourages and endorses those things. America should never have come so near to the point of dismantling the statue of a Boy Scout in front of the Philadelphia BSA Headquarters instead of exalting it high on the pedestal of civic and community respectability.

Of course, Philadelphia is not the only government body that has supported the cause of young men doing a good turn daily, being prepared, and staying physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight. School districts allow Scout troops to meet in school buildings without charge. Cities develop partnerships with Eagle Scout candidates to assist with community service projects. Counties contract out to Boy Scout councils so they can provide after-school programs to inner city youth. And Congress first gave a charter to the Boy Scouts of America in 1916.

Americans nationwide need to take action to support these local Scouts that have come under fire.

ACTION ITEM: No one would dare to challenge the chartered relationship that exclusive veterans groups like Jewish War Veterans and Catholic War Veterans have with the federal government. And no one should suggest that the moral standards of the Boy Scouts of America are less than honorable. Few institutions in society place greater emphasis on honor than the Boy Scouts of America.

The city has some business with honor too -- it needs to honor an old commitment. If they don't, they will end a vital relationship with an organization that has contributed so much to Philadelphia's quality of life.

Click below to send a FREE editable, pre-written message to Philadelphia Mayor John Street's Chief of Staff, Joyce Wilkerson, urging her to honor that city's commitment to the Boy Scouts.

http://www.conservativealerts.com/092903.htm

Dallas · 09-29-2003, 02:07 PM

Letter sent. I'm a big time Scout supporter. I wonder how much longer we'll last, as we are, or will the Scouts give in?

NRAJOE · 09-29-2003, 03:56 PM

Thanks Dallas...hope everyone else fired off an e-mail too.

09-29-2003, 08:05 PM

Count me in..

jerry · 09-29-2003, 08:23 PM

done.

NRAJOE · 09-29-2003, 10:14 PM

Youse guys is alright! :right:

Dallas · 09-30-2003, 06:56 AM

Where is everybody else?

NRAJOE · 09-30-2003, 11:06 AM

Hmmmmmmmm...................................

Full MeTal Jack · 10-11-2003, 08:17 PM

Admin,
Thanks for the Forum. BSA does need help. I get offended every time BSA's integrity is misrepresented (lies) . The last presidential administration didn't do a GD thing to protect or promote the worlds largest youth organization. The homosexual liberal mothers finest sweet ol boys are relentless about promting their adgenda. Their adenda is to pervert and subvert as many people and youth, with skulls full of mush, as possible into accepting devientcy as normal. Any organization that promotes being; Trustworthy, Loyal, Friendly, Helpful, Courtiious, Kind, Obedient, Thifty, Cheerful, BRAVE, Clean and REVERANT is under attack!!!
If ya'll think I'm a homaphobe, just watch the mainstream evening TV. All the stupid jokes are about condoms, man to man (gay) and women on women (lesbian). These progarams make me SICK!
You ask, Why do I watch them?
I am a tolerant guy............................................... .................................................. ...

for about the first 5 minutes, then the remote finger does it job.

It is the same reason I watch ABC News. I want to know what they are lying to me about.

The best thing we can do for our youth is "Turn the danm TV OFF"!!!

signed

a tolerant white middle-aged privite christian school graduate guy

I too singed up with concervitivealert.

Dale · 10-11-2003, 08:31 PM

Joe, today was the first day I saw this thread. Rest assured I sent mine....yepper...fer sure.

Come to think of it, I'm going back there and send one in wife pooh's name.

Dale · 10-11-2003, 08:37 PM

Joe, I did one for the wife but I have a suggestion.

Since there may be more like me that rely on 'view new posts' far too much, you might want to consider resurrecting this post from time to time so they might see it.

Just an idea, bro .... ^5

NRAJOE · 10-12-2003, 05:24 AM

I'll do that...got great responses from the bigger forums also! :right:

Fritz · 10-15-2003, 03:38 PM

Well I finaly found something to relpy to. Thank you for your help.
I e-mailed a friend who will get more scouts on the band wagon.
Funny how the news has not reported on this. I guess that it is not news when poeple attack the scouts, only when a group feels the Scouts are attacking them.
As a Scoutmaster I am there for my boys no matter what the problem. God bless America and the Boy Scouts of the World.

NRAJOE · 10-15-2003, 03:42 PM

Thank you sir!

GunGeek · 10-30-2003, 06:47 PM

ok sent

NRAJOE · 10-31-2003, 01:28 PM

Thank you...welcome back...stick around.

Spikestrip · 05-20-2007, 11:41 PM

Any news of the result of this post?

Despoiler · 05-21-2007, 01:03 AM

This is what I have heard

Quote:

Local Boy Scouts officials must vacate their Center City headquarters by July 24, 2007, if they don’t begin either paying rent or accepting gays, City Solicitor Romulo L. Diaz Jr. said this week. The commission issued its notice to the Scouts on July 24, 2006, stating they could avoid eviction if they began paying fair-market rent or accepting gays, Diaz said. "Our position is that [the Scouts] already have been given notice,". "The clock began ticking on July 24, 2006, at the latest." The mayor and City Council also must approve the eviction, but the 1928 ordinance doesn’t specify a time frame for those approvals, Diaz added.

tbonefromtn · 05-28-2007, 12:15 AM

Is that link still up? As a Bronze Palm Eagle Scout I would like to help but I think the link is down. I will try again tomorrow.

Tyler

Muddyj95 · 06-06-2007, 10:55 PM

I am an Eagle Scout and these types of actions take away from what scouting is all about service to GOD, Country, and yuoe fellow man!!!

09-29-2003, 12:12 PM	#1
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Boy Scouts need our help.... Boy Scouts Need Our Help! Tell Philly to Honor Their Commitments! ISSUE: According to a new article by Hans Zeiger, former Eagle Scout and now president of the Scout Honor Coalition (scoutoath.tripod.com), "'A Scout is trustworthy.' But the City of Philadelphia isn't keeping a 75-year old promise to the Boy Scouts." In 1928, the Philadelphia City Council took note of the good turns that the Boy Scouts were doing throughout the city. The city council voted in favor of allowing the Cradle of Liberty Boy Scout Council to utilize a half-acre plot of public land at 22nd and Winter Streets "in perpetuity." By 1929, construction of the Boy Scout Resource Center was complete. Today, three quarters of a century years later, Philadelphia's Cradle of Liberty Boy Scout Council is being told that it will be KICKED OUT of the historic headquarters because of the Boy Scouts' policy excluding homosexuals and atheists from positions of leadership and membership. Last week, the Philadelphia mayor's Chief of Staff, Joyce Wilkerson, informed the Boy Scouts of a policy opinion by City Solicitor Nelson Diaz. Diaz decided that the city's non-discrimination policies are in direct conflict with the Boy Scouts' rent-free land use. The city will give the Scouts one year to leave the land or compromise on moral virtue and retain use of the headquarters. The City of Philadelphia is doing government as usual, breaking promises and neglecting the importance of traditional values. Non-discrimination codes, like the one being applied in Philadelphia, have exacted a great cost from the civic virtue of our cities. Government should be neutral on many issues, but government should never be value neutral. No one should be forced to be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent. But the City of Philadelphia should have the instinctive desire to say that it encourages and endorses those things. America should never have come so near to the point of dismantling the statue of a Boy Scout in front of the Philadelphia BSA Headquarters instead of exalting it high on the pedestal of civic and community respectability. Of course, Philadelphia is not the only government body that has supported the cause of young men doing a good turn daily, being prepared, and staying physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight. School districts allow Scout troops to meet in school buildings without charge. Cities develop partnerships with Eagle Scout candidates to assist with community service projects. Counties contract out to Boy Scout councils so they can provide after-school programs to inner city youth. And Congress first gave a charter to the Boy Scouts of America in 1916. Americans nationwide need to take action to support these local Scouts that have come under fire. ACTION ITEM: No one would dare to challenge the chartered relationship that exclusive veterans groups like Jewish War Veterans and Catholic War Veterans have with the federal government. And no one should suggest that the moral standards of the Boy Scouts of America are less than honorable. Few institutions in society place greater emphasis on honor than the Boy Scouts of America. The city has some business with honor too -- it needs to honor an old commitment. If they don't, they will end a vital relationship with an organization that has contributed so much to Philadelphia's quality of life. Click below to send a FREE editable, pre-written message to Philadelphia Mayor John Street's Chief of Staff, Joyce Wilkerson, urging her to honor that city's commitment to the Boy Scouts. http://www.conservativealerts.com/092903.htm __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

09-29-2003, 02:07 PM	#2
Dallas PUKHA DAWG Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia, just outside of Washington D.C. Posts: 3,595	Letter sent. I'm a big time Scout supporter. I wonder how much longer we'll last, as we are, or will the Scouts give in? Last edited by Dallas; 10-11-2003 at 09:08 PM.

09-29-2003, 03:56 PM	#3
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Thanks Dallas...hope everyone else fired off an e-mail too. __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

09-29-2003, 08:23 PM	#5
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,884 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	done. __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

09-29-2003, 10:14 PM	#6
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Youse guys is alright! :right: __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

09-29-2003, 08:05 PM	#4
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	Count me in..

09-30-2003, 06:56 AM	#7
Dallas PUKHA DAWG Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia, just outside of Washington D.C. Posts: 3,595	Where is everybody else?

09-30-2003, 11:06 AM	#8
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Hmmmmmmmm................................... __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

10-11-2003, 08:17 PM	#9
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,427 Images: 1	Admin, Thanks for the Forum. BSA does need help. I get offended every time BSA's integrity is misrepresented (lies) . The last presidential administration didn't do a GD thing to protect or promote the worlds largest youth organization. The homosexual liberal mothers finest sweet ol boys are relentless about promting their adgenda. Their adenda is to pervert and subvert as many people and youth, with skulls full of mush, as possible into accepting devientcy as normal. Any organization that promotes being; Trustworthy, Loyal, Friendly, Helpful, Courtiious, Kind, Obedient, Thifty, Cheerful, BRAVE, Clean and REVERANT is under attack!!! If ya'll think I'm a homaphobe, just watch the mainstream evening TV. All the stupid jokes are about condoms, man to man (gay) and women on women (lesbian). These progarams make me SICK! You ask, Why do I watch them? I am a tolerant guy............................................... .................................................. ... for about the first 5 minutes, then the remote finger does it job. It is the same reason I watch ABC News. I want to know what they are lying to me about. The best thing we can do for our youth is "Turn the danm TV OFF"!!! signed a tolerant white middle-aged privite christian school graduate guy I too singed up with concervitivealert. __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg Last edited by Full MeTal Jack; 10-11-2003 at 08:23 PM.

10-11-2003, 08:31 PM	#10
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	Joe, today was the first day I saw this thread. Rest assured I sent mine....yepper...fer sure. Come to think of it, I'm going back there and send one in wife pooh's name. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

10-11-2003, 08:37 PM	#11
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	Joe, I did one for the wife but I have a suggestion. Since there may be more like me that rely on 'view new posts' far too much, you might want to consider resurrecting this post from time to time so they might see it. Just an idea, bro .... ^5 __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me Last edited by Dale; 10-12-2003 at 09:45 AM.

10-12-2003, 05:24 AM	#12
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	I'll do that...got great responses from the bigger forums also! :right: __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

10-15-2003, 03:38 PM	#13
Fritz Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Miami, FL. Posts: 4	Well I finaly found something to relpy to. Thank you for your help. I e-mailed a friend who will get more scouts on the band wagon. Funny how the news has not reported on this. I guess that it is not news when poeple attack the scouts, only when a group feels the Scouts are attacking them. As a Scoutmaster I am there for my boys no matter what the problem. God bless America and the Boy Scouts of the World.

10-15-2003, 03:42 PM	#14
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Thank you sir! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

10-30-2003, 06:47 PM	#15
GunGeek Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: PA Posts: 24	ok sent __________________ Gotta love the 4 G's. God, Guns, Girls, and Guitars - Me

10-31-2003, 01:28 PM	#16
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Thank you...welcome back...stick around. __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

05-20-2007, 11:41 PM	#17
Spikestrip Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Southern "10 Day Wait" California Posts: 122	What was the end result? Any news of the result of this post?

05-28-2007, 12:15 AM	#19
tbonefromtn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Memphis Posts: 6	Is that link still up? As a Bronze Palm Eagle Scout I would like to help but I think the link is down. I will try again tomorrow. Tyler

06-06-2007, 10:55 PM	#20
Muddyj95 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Asheville NC Posts: 4	I am an Eagle Scout and these types of actions take away from what scouting is all about service to GOD, Country, and yuoe fellow man!!!