How comfortable would you be knowing that your kid's teacher is carrying concealed

Mr.Wolf · 06-07-2007, 03:46 PM

Hi Folks,

I just wanted to know how comfortable you would feel knowing the members of the school administration your child or ward is attending were carrying concealed.

Please share with us.

DANA · 06-07-2007, 03:54 PM

Yes Yes Yes

Dana

knightRider · 06-07-2007, 04:34 PM

it would be the smartest thing the school systems done in years

cubbieman · 06-07-2007, 05:02 PM

i would have rather had the teachers at my school armed with a 9MM and a tazer than have no one there armed

the teachers at my friend's school carry tazers, but that's where the ppl who've gotten in trouble go

troylaplante · 06-07-2007, 05:56 PM

I would be fine with it. In order to get a CCW, the staff member had to undergo training and a practical exam, in most cases. I would actually feel much better than if they remain unarmed.

bigandrich44 · 06-07-2007, 05:57 PM

I would feel a TON better. Doesn't Wisconsin allow teachers to CC?

Chris · 06-07-2007, 07:59 PM

I would be fine with it.

just_a_car · 06-07-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by troylaplante

I would be fine with it. In order to get a CCW, the staff member had to undergo training and a practical exam, in most cases. I would actually feel much better than if they remain unarmed.

+1, but only if they passed training satisfactorily and had to pass a mental exam. I had some teachers in highschool that I wouldn't want owning a gun; period. Not just because they were a teacher or in school but just because of who they were and how they acted. You wouldn't believe how ignorant, hard-headed, or just outright stupid some teachers are.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 06-07-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by just_a_car

+1, but only if they passed training satisfactorily and had to pass a mental exam. I had some teachers in highschool that I wouldn't want owning a gun; period. Not just because they were a teacher or in school but just because of who they were and how they acted. You wouldn't believe how ignorant, hard-headed, or just outright stupid some teachers are.

Plus One on that Just a Car; Just because they pass a background check doesn't mean they are honest, sane and stable. It only means they have'nt yet been caught.

I would feel no less threatened than if they were leo's.

countrymama · 06-07-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bigandrich44

I would feel a TON better. Doesn't Wisconsin allow teachers to CC?

um, no! WI is amongst the worst for being against CC. as soon as we can Dump Doyle, we will probably be able to pass it. they have ALMOST enough votes to override his veto...but not quite

back to the orig ?...i would feel MUCH better provided they have to go through the same training and background checks as the rest of us, possibly even manditory training to ensure thier accuracy...

Mooseman684 · 06-07-2007, 08:50 PM

I think it would be a Great Safety Precaution against Criminal Fruitcakes on school Grounds !

troylaplante · 06-07-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by just_a_car

+1, but only if they passed training satisfactorily and had to pass a mental exam.

That is a small part of the CCW background check here in NC. The sheriff takes prints that get run through the State Bureau of Investigations. They also do a mental health records check and a criminal records check on applicants. Of course, other states may vary.

just_a_car · 06-08-2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by troylaplante

That is a small part of the CCW background check here in NC. The sheriff takes prints that get run through the State Bureau of Investigations. They also do a mental health records check and a criminal records check on applicants. Of course, other states may vary.

Yes, but just like SPOCAHP ANAR said, if they don't have a record, that could mean they just haven't been caught yet. If it's mandatory that they do a psych eval and are deemed proficient in the use of the weapon with which they will CC or OC, then I have no problem with them carrying. I do have a problem with them just being handed a gun without knowing that they are mentally stable and if they can safely use it. These people are around our children 5 out of 7 days of the week, usually; I honestly think a psych eval should be mandatory just for the position, but that's a little draconian.

mosineer · 06-08-2007, 01:26 AM

I'm for it myself. If given the chance, I think it would work. The only bad thing is the media would have a field day if there are any problems, percieved, made up, or otherwise.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men to do nothing

BattleRifleG3 · 06-08-2007, 08:16 AM

I'm all for it, being administered at the school's discretion. So it would be the school's call what sort of evaluation todo on whether a particular teacher could carry or not. On that level, they are most accountable to parents.

SilverRun · 06-08-2007, 08:23 AM

Sounds like a good idea to me. However, I also agree that they need more training than the average CC permit holder. After all, they are in a room full of bystanders. They need to be able to hit what they are aiming at and know when to not shoot. I like the Tazer idea as well, but they need lots of training with the Tazar. I could see it being used to break up normal fights and arguments when it shouldn't be.

Mr.Wolf · 06-08-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by troylaplante

I would be fine with it. In order to get a CCW, the staff member had to undergo training and a practical exam, in most cases. I would actually feel much better than if they remain unarmed.

I think this should be a requirement in any civilised society.

toolman · 06-08-2007, 10:40 AM

I feel that since the gov't expects us to turn our children over to them to be educated as they see fit, the teachers should at least be able to protect them to the best of their abilities. I would also like to see more family involvement, ie: mom and dad or grandma\granddad helping around out around the school with a 9mm in a fanny-pack or in an ankle holster. No one will fight harder for a child's safety than a parent or grand-parent.

ArkansasHunter · 06-08-2007, 11:27 AM

I would agree if they were tested in the handling and safety of it's use. And a through FBI back ground check. (There's some very weird professors at our colleges.)
cubbie mentioned taser's these want work because the shooter will have you shot before you can get close enough to use it.
The schools here where I live have armed and trained city police officers at all our schools as a deterent to school shootings and bullying.
These are the same cops as the patrolmen that they use, there not hired to do just this position nor are they old retiree's put in security guard uniforms that you see at plants.
I really don't see teachers being armed, but I'd go along with it for the above stateted reasons...A.H

troylaplante · 06-08-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by just_a_car

I do have a problem with them just being handed a gun without knowing that they are mentally stable and if they can safely use it.

If they can pass the same qualifications as I have to, I have no problem with it.

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Originally Posted by SilverRun

However, I also agree that they need more training than the average CC permit holder.

That is a simple point wherein we disagree. Either they are CCW qualified or not, IMHO.

06-07-2007, 03:46 PM	#1
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Chris HMFIC Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,834,131 Trader Rating: (0)	I would be fine with it. __________________ Rules \| Contributing Members I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. --Thomas Jefferson No one has the right to deny my personal safety Need a reminder, why this site is so great?

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Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,272 Trader Rating: (0)	I think it would be a Great Safety Precaution against Criminal Fruitcakes on school Grounds ! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

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DANA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WAITSFIELD VERMONT Posts: 1,590 Trader Rating: (0)	Yes Yes Yes Dana

06-07-2007, 05:02 PM	#4
cubbieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,479 Trader Rating: (0)	i would have rather had the teachers at my school armed with a 9MM and a tazer than have no one there armed the teachers at my friend's school carry tazers, but that's where the ppl who've gotten in trouble go

06-07-2007, 05:56 PM	#5
troylaplante Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Selma, NC Posts: 2,223 Trader Rating: (0)	I would be fine with it. In order to get a CCW, the staff member had to undergo training and a practical exam, in most cases. I would actually feel much better than if they remain unarmed.

06-08-2007, 01:26 AM	#14
mosineer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 1,269 Trader Rating: (0)	I'm for it myself. If given the chance, I think it would work. The only bad thing is the media would have a field day if there are any problems, percieved, made up, or otherwise. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men to do nothing

06-08-2007, 08:16 AM	#15
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	I'm all for it, being administered at the school's discretion. So it would be the school's call what sort of evaluation todo on whether a particular teacher could carry or not. On that level, they are most accountable to parents. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

06-08-2007, 08:23 AM	#16
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,659 Trader Rating: (0)	Sounds like a good idea to me. However, I also agree that they need more training than the average CC permit holder. After all, they are in a room full of bystanders. They need to be able to hit what they are aiming at and know when to not shoot. I like the Tazer idea as well, but they need lots of training with the Tazar. I could see it being used to break up normal fights and arguments when it shouldn't be.

06-08-2007, 10:40 AM	#18
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,361 Trader Rating: (0)	I feel that since the gov't expects us to turn our children over to them to be educated as they see fit, the teachers should at least be able to protect them to the best of their abilities. I would also like to see more family involvement, ie: mom and dad or grandma\granddad helping around out around the school with a 9mm in a fanny-pack or in an ankle holster. No one will fight harder for a child's safety than a parent or grand-parent. __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun! Last edited by toolman; 06-08-2007 at 10:42 AM.

06-08-2007, 11:27 AM	#19
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,525 Trader Rating: (0)	I would agree if they were tested in the handling and safety of it's use. And a through FBI back ground check. (There's some very weird professors at our colleges.) cubbie mentioned taser's these want work because the shooter will have you shot before you can get close enough to use it. The schools here where I live have armed and trained city police officers at all our schools as a deterent to school shootings and bullying. These are the same cops as the patrolmen that they use, there not hired to do just this position nor are they old retiree's put in security guard uniforms that you see at plants. I really don't see teachers being armed, but I'd go along with it for the above stateted reasons...A.H