Heavy barrel rifles...which one???

Cyclops · 07-31-2002, 10:11 AM

I am trying to convince myself that I 'need' a heavy barrel, bolt rifle. THe Savage rifles seem like great values :target:
I do have a couple questions for those that know better than I:
1. 223 or 308?
2. What barrel length?
3. What power scope?

I plan only on using this rifle for punching paper. When I go rifle shooting w/ buddies, I only have my 10/22 & just shoot theirs. I think it's time for me to take the plunge....

ChesterGolf · 07-31-2002, 05:16 PM

I do not own any savage firearms but am told they are shooters. Personally, I have two rifles with heavy barrels. I have a Remington 700 VS in .220 swift and a Remington Sendero SF in .300 ultramag. I like the feel and accuracy of heavy barrels and the savages should be no different. As for calibre, if it is truly a paper puncher and is not to be used for hunting then I would go for the .223 because of reduced recoil but I think the 308 is more versatile if you EVER intend to hunt with the gun. That is not to say the 223 is not a hunting calibre but it is more limiting than the 308. Hope this helps and have fun with the new toy.

Cyclops · 07-31-2002, 07:15 PM

Thanks ChesterGolf. I keep flip flopping between 223 & 308. I'm leaning towards the 308 because if I wanted to make tiny holes, I'll shoot my 10/22.

Superbee · 07-31-2002, 10:38 PM

Cyclops,
I bought my Savage heavy barrel 10FP .308 last year and I really like it a lot. Currently I'm reloading a lot and non-stop using the range. I had the same problem before I aquired this tactical rig. The .223 is a great cal. and easy to handle at the range but my personal pref. is the .308 with stronger recoil, and this doen't bother me at all. I can say if you are having lots of fun with your 10/22, I have no doubt that you'll enjoy shooting the .308. just like upgrade from low recoiled to a heavier one.

Go to the gun store and feel the .223 and he .308 Savage for (looks and weight). Then you can easily decide. Good luck.

Superbee

polarisgod · 08-04-2002, 10:53 AM

If you want a heavy barrel, you can go with the model 10fp or the 112(stainless,fluted barrel). Either is fantastic! I know a custom barrel maker, and he swears by the Savage action,he told me that Savage has about $60 in their actions,compared to Remington's $6.00!! Don't know if that's true, but the triggers are $50.00 adjustable types right from the factory. I even heard from a very reliable source that our police snipers are going to the model 10fp and getting rid of their Steyer PSS's!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

jgang · 08-22-2002, 09:50 PM

I have a 12fvss and I am striving for a five shot, one hole at 100yds. I have a three shot-one holer, so I am just greedy. The choice is yours. The 270 would be a flatter shooter out to 300-500yds. I have a 12bvss in .243 since July 2nd and am still waiting. Good Luck! jgang

savparts · 06-12-2004, 05:58 AM

The 308 is a widely used round in matchs, hunting and stopping people, the bullet is heaver, better Ballistics then the 223. Just a obervation

Midas · 06-22-2007, 11:06 AM

I have to say, I have seen very good accuracy out of the heavy barrel Savages. I owned a 10FP a couple of years ago, in .308, and it was a true sub-half inch rifle. Oh sure, it may not have the reputation of a Remington Sendero, or a Winchester Laredo, but, in my opinion, reputation means little, and performance means a lot.

Midas · 06-22-2007, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaylock220

You own any Senderos are Larados?

Actually, I have owned 2 Sendero's, both in .300 Win Mag, I am not knocking Remington or Winchester at all, I am just saying, they arn't the be all to end all in out of the box accuracy. Now, I must ask, how many Savages have you owned? And have you shot them side by side with various other rifles?

ezearln · 06-22-2007, 11:59 AM

Used to own me a Ruger 77 in 220 Swift, that was one sweet shooting tackdriver, them ground squirrels never knew what hit em LOL

Midas · 06-22-2007, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezearln

Used to own me a Ruger 77 in 220 Swift, that was one sweet shooting tackdriver, them ground squirrels never knew what hit em LOL

lol, that 220 Swift is one sweet cartridge, and yes, it'll give varmints a new definition of pain

Midas · 06-22-2007, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaylock220

I knew you was going to ask me that. No, I don't own any Savages but have shot some friends of mine in 308 and 22-250. I won't lie, they shoot great, I'm just hung up on the cosmetics. I want a 308, buy I will probably end up getting a Cooper in this caliber.

Now, Cooper is nice, and they shoot extremely good. Put a good Leupold VX-III on top, or a Zeiss, and you have an almost divine combination.

ezearln · 06-22-2007, 12:26 PM

blaylock you've shot some friends of yours? egads with a friend like you one needs heavy body armor

Jus being silly LOL

tbonecpk · 06-22-2007, 01:12 PM

blaylock this is my suggestion for a really nice paper punching .308. Savage makes great rifles out of the box with good accuracy from what i hear. the major problem is the availability of aftermarket parts. So what I suggest is just buy the action of a remington 700 Varmit in .308 then purchase a Keiger Heavy Match Chrome lined barrel with out fluting (more accurate without the fluted barrel) A nice McMillan Stock and a 2 stage Match Grade trigger, and A 6x-24x-50mm Burris XTR with mounts and rings. oh yeah and all metal parts getting chryoed because by having the metal parts chryoed it will extend the life of the components so every 10000 rounds you dont have to spend another $500 for a new barrel. and there is a very nice paper puncher :grin:

SilverRun · 06-22-2007, 03:04 PM

I have a Remington Model 700VS in .308. I really like it, but I have heard nothing but good things about the Savage heavy barreled rifles. I want a .223 bull barrel. The .308 is a great caliber, but the recoil bothers me after shooting for a while. The .223 in a bull barreled rifle would hardly be noticed. If you don't reload, .308 will be a good bit more expensive to shoot as well. The .308 will be better at longer ranges though. Lots of good scopes out there. Not getting into that, but you typically get what you pay for with scopes.

tbonecpk · 06-22-2007, 03:07 PM

yup I agree I hear good news but the lack of aftermarket parts makes it really difficult to build a paper punching machine.

07-31-2002, 10:11 AM	#1
Cyclops Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California Posts: 231	Heavy barrel rifles...which one??? I am trying to convince myself that I 'need' a heavy barrel, bolt rifle. THe Savage rifles seem like great values :target: I do have a couple questions for those that know better than I: 1. 223 or 308? 2. What barrel length? 3. What power scope? I plan only on using this rifle for punching paper. When I go rifle shooting w/ buddies, I only have my 10/22 & just shoot theirs. I think it's time for me to take the plunge.... __________________ Don't tread on me!

07-31-2002, 07:15 PM	#3
Cyclops Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California Posts: 231	Thanks ChesterGolf. I keep flip flopping between 223 & 308. I'm leaning towards the 308 because if I wanted to make tiny holes, I'll shoot my 10/22. __________________ Don't tread on me!

07-31-2002, 10:38 PM	#4
Superbee Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Prescott Wisconsin Posts: 23	Cyclops, I bought my Savage heavy barrel 10FP .308 last year and I really like it a lot. Currently I'm reloading a lot and non-stop using the range. I had the same problem before I aquired this tactical rig. The .223 is a great cal. and easy to handle at the range but my personal pref. is the .308 with stronger recoil, and this doen't bother me at all. I can say if you are having lots of fun with your 10/22, I have no doubt that you'll enjoy shooting the .308. just like upgrade from low recoiled to a heavier one. Go to the gun store and feel the .223 and he .308 Savage for (looks and weight). Then you can easily decide. Good luck. Superbee __________________ Superbee

08-04-2002, 10:53 AM	#5
polarisgod Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lincoln,NE Posts: 144	If you want a heavy barrel, you can go with the model 10fp or the 112(stainless,fluted barrel). Either is fantastic! I know a custom barrel maker, and he swears by the Savage action,he told me that Savage has about $60 in their actions,compared to Remington's $6.00!! Don't know if that's true, but the triggers are $50.00 adjustable types right from the factory. I even heard from a very reliable source that our police snipers are going to the model 10fp and getting rid of their Steyer PSS's!!!! !!!!!!!!!! __________________ "It is always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6" Unknown "Peace sells....but who's buying" Megadeath

06-12-2004, 05:58 AM	#7
savparts Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 91	The 308 is a widely used round in matchs, hunting and stopping people, the bullet is heaver, better Ballistics then the 223. Just a obervation __________________ [For those who have fought for it, Freedom has a meaning the protected will never know]

07-31-2002, 05:16 PM	#2
ChesterGolf Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chester Basin, Nova Scotia Posts: 67	I do not own any savage firearms but am told they are shooters. Personally, I have two rifles with heavy barrels. I have a Remington 700 VS in .220 swift and a Remington Sendero SF in .300 ultramag. I like the feel and accuracy of heavy barrels and the savages should be no different. As for calibre, if it is truly a paper puncher and is not to be used for hunting then I would go for the .223 because of reduced recoil but I think the 308 is more versatile if you EVER intend to hunt with the gun. That is not to say the 223 is not a hunting calibre but it is more limiting than the 308. Hope this helps and have fun with the new toy.

08-22-2002, 09:50 PM	#6
jgang Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 36	I have a 12fvss and I am striving for a five shot, one hole at 100yds. I have a three shot-one holer, so I am just greedy. The choice is yours. The 270 would be a flatter shooter out to 300-500yds. I have a 12bvss in .243 since July 2nd and am still waiting. Good Luck! jgang

06-22-2007, 11:06 AM	#8
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,788 Images: 2 Blog Entries: 6	I have to say, I have seen very good accuracy out of the heavy barrel Savages. I owned a 10FP a couple of years ago, in .308, and it was a true sub-half inch rifle. Oh sure, it may not have the reputation of a Remington Sendero, or a Winchester Laredo, but, in my opinion, reputation means little, and performance means a lot. __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

06-22-2007, 11:59 AM	#10
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,175	Used to own me a Ruger 77 in 220 Swift, that was one sweet shooting tackdriver, them ground squirrels never knew what hit em LOL __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

06-22-2007, 12:26 PM	#13
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,175	blaylock you've shot some friends of yours? egads with a friend like you one needs heavy body armor Jus being silly LOL __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

06-22-2007, 01:12 PM	#14
tbonecpk Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Diego Cal Posts: 1,590 Blog Entries: 2	blaylock this is my suggestion for a really nice paper punching .308. Savage makes great rifles out of the box with good accuracy from what i hear. the major problem is the availability of aftermarket parts. So what I suggest is just buy the action of a remington 700 Varmit in .308 then purchase a Keiger Heavy Match Chrome lined barrel with out fluting (more accurate without the fluted barrel) A nice McMillan Stock and a 2 stage Match Grade trigger, and A 6x-24x-50mm Burris XTR with mounts and rings. oh yeah and all metal parts getting chryoed because by having the metal parts chryoed it will extend the life of the components so every 10000 rounds you dont have to spend another $500 for a new barrel. and there is a very nice paper puncher :grin: __________________ "Speak softly but carry a big stick" -Teddy Roosevelt Last edited by tbonecpk; 06-22-2007 at 01:15 PM.

06-22-2007, 03:04 PM	#15
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,661	I have a Remington Model 700VS in .308. I really like it, but I have heard nothing but good things about the Savage heavy barreled rifles. I want a .223 bull barrel. The .308 is a great caliber, but the recoil bothers me after shooting for a while. The .223 in a bull barreled rifle would hardly be noticed. If you don't reload, .308 will be a good bit more expensive to shoot as well. The .308 will be better at longer ranges though. Lots of good scopes out there. Not getting into that, but you typically get what you pay for with scopes.

06-22-2007, 03:07 PM	#16
tbonecpk Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Diego Cal Posts: 1,590 Blog Entries: 2	yup I agree I hear good news but the lack of aftermarket parts makes it really difficult to build a paper punching machine. __________________ "Speak softly but carry a big stick" -Teddy Roosevelt