Glock or 1911?

Colt · 07-01-2007, 07:12 PM

I am wanting to purchase my first real hand gun other than my .22 for plinking, I like the style of the 1911 but the all Gocks seem to be realy reliable. I am mainly looking for a gun that i will be able to trust my life with if need be, So if i havent cleaned it in a while or it has some dirt or cheap ammo it will still functian flawlessly, I was leaning toward a 1911 but herd if they are customized to much or upgraded they wont be as reliable. Well i'd appacerate some help,Thanks!
Colt,

billy · 07-01-2007, 07:23 PM

i like full sized steel pistols. my vote? 1911

just_a_car · 07-01-2007, 07:38 PM

If you're thinking you want high-reliability with it perhaps being dirty or some grit in it, then the GLOCK is the only way to go. 1911 is a dang-fine firearm and works much better than most in adverse environments, but I have yet to see someone do this to a 1911: Glock 21 Torture Test - Theprepared.com

I own a G27 in .40S&W and it's my only handgun, it's my CC firearm that I trust my, and other innocent civilians', life with. What's slightly ironic is the handgun that I shoot the best and feels most comfortable is the Kimber fullsize 1911's. Though, I've cloverleafed two rounds (first two of the day) out of my 3.5" barreled subcompact GLOCK at 25 yards. If I need better accuracy than that, I'm doing something very, very wrong.

Bravo · 07-01-2007, 07:43 PM

1911.

Because I like to keep my hands in one piece when I shoot.

Lol...I know, 99.9% of the thousands of glocks out there don't blow up...

I just hate glocks.

billy · 07-01-2007, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bravo

1911.

Because I like to keep my hands in one piece when I shoot.

Lol...I know, 99.9% of the thousands of glocks out there don't blow up...

I just hate glocks.

me too. for some reason they just bother me

and i try not to agree with_______just__a__car_ too much!

just_a_car · 07-01-2007, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

me too. for some reason they just bother me

and i try not to agree with_______just__a__car_ too much!

Dork.

At least I didn't go bashing the 1911.

Pred · 07-01-2007, 08:38 PM

No one has asked the question yet, what do you want this gun for? To carry? Just to plink with? Home defense?

just_a_car · 07-01-2007, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pred

No one has asked the question yet, what do you want this gun for? To carry? Just to plink with? Home defense?

My guess would be for Carry and/or Home Defense, since the OP stated that they wanted a gun to trust their life to.

Summerleas · 07-02-2007, 02:13 PM

I would have to say both are very reliable....pick the one which you can shoot the best and fits your hands the best....we will be hear for years arguing this one....my vote 1911 all the way, buy a decent one and no mods should be needed thus making a very reliable weapon....and if you can't decide between the two, buy a polymer frame 1911, best of both worlds

Ding · 07-02-2007, 02:21 PM

Get a 1911

you don't want a glock grenade now do ya...?

Choco · 07-02-2007, 02:33 PM

1911

tbonecpk · 07-02-2007, 02:44 PM

1911 hands down just look at the service life lol I dunno any other modern handgun that has had 80 years of service.

Midas · 07-02-2007, 02:57 PM

No contest, go with the 1911.

a1huntingsupply · 07-02-2007, 03:56 PM

My vote is for a Springfield XD!

I know it's not one of the options but if you thought about buying a Glock why not just get a XD.

If you go the 1911 route then get a Springfield Micro Compact 45

Pred · 07-02-2007, 08:10 PM

In all honestly, lets take a look:

1911:
Proven design
Superior stopping power
About as reliable as they come
Only 7-8 round mags
Accurate

Glock:
Proven design
Wide range of calibers
9mm will kill someone
High cap mags
Accurate
As reliable as they come

In the end it's all up to you. While the 1911 is a great gun, probably the favorite handgun I own, having less is never better, remember that. Smaller, lighter gun with 17 rounds vs larger, heavier gun with 8 rounds. You get up into the $500 range you can also start to look at H&K and Sig. Matter a fact you can get used Sig 226's for $400-$450. Now, before I zip up my flame suit, I'm not knocking the 1911's. A Chevy 350 is a great motor, but there is a reason they don't go into everything anymore.

ArkansasHunter · 07-02-2007, 08:50 PM

Glock

Colt · 07-02-2007, 09:42 PM

Pred and everyone thanks thus far H&K also sounds liek a geat option also also i had not herd of the polymer frame 1911's do you know who makes those?
Thanks,

Summerleas · 07-03-2007, 06:36 PM

Kimber makes the BP Ten...4 or 5 inch barrel. I own one and love it. The Kimber is a high capacity frame too so 13+1. MSRP 636-1170

Wilson combat has one available too, the KZ45 or KZ9 (.45 and 9mm), 4 or 5 inch barrel, not sure of capacity but think it is 10 for the .45. MSRP 1360-1410

There might be more out there but I don't know of them. Mine weighs 34 ounces and is a 5 inch model. I have shot more than a few thousand rounds through it and not one malfuction at all. Never put it on a sandbag but the pistol is more accurate than I am. Good luck with your purchase.

jerry · 07-03-2007, 06:48 PM

If your going to get into the intricate workings and want a product to work with and possibly customize. The 1911 is good. It is also good left alone, sometimes better. IMOHO it does take a bit more regular practice to be SAFE and proficient with. This applies to pistols like the High Power, CZ75, and others similar in design.

If you want a rock steady out of the box proven design that will work with minimal fussing around. The Glock and several other "modern" styles are all good.

Moral of the story. Get a gun and know it well.

ezearln · 07-03-2007, 07:09 PM

My personal preferences are the M1911A1 and the Hi-power, but I will agree with previous posts get what you are comfortable with something that suits you and the intended use to which you will use the sidearm, then drill, dry fire, learn how to operate the safeties and do unload reload drills until they become second nature and you are able to perform them from muscle memory without having to conscienely thinking it through . Practice marksmanship until all the fundamentals fall into place as if you were born to them. Then you're ready to use that sidearm in defense of life or property

07-01-2007, 07:12 PM	#1
Colt Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 126	Glock or 1911? I am wanting to purchase my first real hand gun other than my .22 for plinking, I like the style of the 1911 but the all Gocks seem to be realy reliable. I am mainly looking for a gun that i will be able to trust my life with if need be, So if i havent cleaned it in a while or it has some dirt or cheap ammo it will still functian flawlessly, I was leaning toward a 1911 but herd if they are customized to much or upgraded they wont be as reliable. Well i'd appacerate some help,Thanks! Colt,

07-01-2007, 07:23 PM	#2
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 13,878 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	i like full sized steel pistols. my vote? 1911 __________________

07-01-2007, 07:38 PM	#3
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,635	If you're thinking you want high-reliability with it perhaps being dirty or some grit in it, then the GLOCK is the only way to go. 1911 is a dang-fine firearm and works much better than most in adverse environments, but I have yet to see someone do this to a 1911: Glock 21 Torture Test - Theprepared.com I own a G27 in .40S&W and it's my only handgun, it's my CC firearm that I trust my, and other innocent civilians', life with. What's slightly ironic is the handgun that I shoot the best and feels most comfortable is the Kimber fullsize 1911's. Though, I've cloverleafed two rounds (first two of the day) out of my 3.5" barreled subcompact GLOCK at 25 yards. If I need better accuracy than that, I'm doing something very, very wrong. __________________

07-02-2007, 02:44 PM	#12
tbonecpk Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Diego Cal Posts: 1,590 Blog Entries: 2	1911 hands down just look at the service life lol I dunno any other modern handgun that has had 80 years of service. __________________ "Speak softly but carry a big stick" -Teddy Roosevelt

07-02-2007, 02:57 PM	#13
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,887 Images: 2 Blog Entries: 6	No contest, go with the 1911. __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

07-01-2007, 07:43 PM	#4
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,987	1911. Because I like to keep my hands in one piece when I shoot. Lol...I know, 99.9% of the thousands of glocks out there don't blow up... I just hate glocks.

07-01-2007, 08:38 PM	#7
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	No one has asked the question yet, what do you want this gun for? To carry? Just to plink with? Home defense?

07-02-2007, 02:13 PM	#9
Summerleas Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 28	I would have to say both are very reliable....pick the one which you can shoot the best and fits your hands the best....we will be hear for years arguing this one....my vote 1911 all the way, buy a decent one and no mods should be needed thus making a very reliable weapon....and if you can't decide between the two, buy a polymer frame 1911, best of both worlds

07-02-2007, 02:21 PM	#10
Ding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Orygun Posts: 57	Get a 1911 you don't want a glock grenade now do ya...?

07-02-2007, 02:33 PM	#11
Choco Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 199	1911

07-02-2007, 03:56 PM	#14
a1huntingsupply Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 9	My vote is for a Springfield XD! I know it's not one of the options but if you thought about buying a Glock why not just get a XD. If you go the 1911 route then get a Springfield Micro Compact 45

07-02-2007, 08:10 PM	#15
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	In all honestly, lets take a look: 1911: Proven design Superior stopping power About as reliable as they come Only 7-8 round mags Accurate Glock: Proven design Wide range of calibers 9mm will kill someone High cap mags Accurate As reliable as they come In the end it's all up to you. While the 1911 is a great gun, probably the favorite handgun I own, having less is never better, remember that. Smaller, lighter gun with 17 rounds vs larger, heavier gun with 8 rounds. You get up into the $500 range you can also start to look at H&K and Sig. Matter a fact you can get used Sig 226's for $400-$450. Now, before I zip up my flame suit, I'm not knocking the 1911's. A Chevy 350 is a great motor, but there is a reason they don't go into everything anymore.

07-02-2007, 08:50 PM	#16
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,912	Glock

07-02-2007, 09:42 PM	#17
Colt Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 126	Pred and everyone thanks thus far H&K also sounds liek a geat option also also i had not herd of the polymer frame 1911's do you know who makes those? Thanks,

07-03-2007, 06:36 PM	#18
Summerleas Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 28	Kimber makes the BP Ten...4 or 5 inch barrel. I own one and love it. The Kimber is a high capacity frame too so 13+1. MSRP 636-1170 Wilson combat has one available too, the KZ45 or KZ9 (.45 and 9mm), 4 or 5 inch barrel, not sure of capacity but think it is 10 for the .45. MSRP 1360-1410 There might be more out there but I don't know of them. Mine weighs 34 ounces and is a 5 inch model. I have shot more than a few thousand rounds through it and not one malfuction at all. Never put it on a sandbag but the pistol is more accurate than I am. Good luck with your purchase.

07-03-2007, 06:48 PM	#19
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11,117 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	If your going to get into the intricate workings and want a product to work with and possibly customize. The 1911 is good. It is also good left alone, sometimes better. IMOHO it does take a bit more regular practice to be SAFE and proficient with. This applies to pistols like the High Power, CZ75, and others similar in design. If you want a rock steady out of the box proven design that will work with minimal fussing around. The Glock and several other "modern" styles are all good. Moral of the story. Get a gun and know it well.

07-03-2007, 07:09 PM	#20
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,175	My personal preferences are the M1911A1 and the Hi-power, but I will agree with previous posts get what you are comfortable with something that suits you and the intended use to which you will use the sidearm, then drill, dry fire, learn how to operate the safeties and do unload reload drills until they become second nature and you are able to perform them from muscle memory without having to conscienely thinking it through . Practice marksmanship until all the fundamentals fall into place as if you were born to them. Then you're ready to use that sidearm in defense of life or property __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"