ZHTF handgun

billy · 07-24-2007, 05:12 AM

according to the experts the brainstem must be destroyed to incapacitate the undead.
my thoughts are a ..357 1911 type pistol.
it must be hi cap.
any thoughts on this pressing matter?

burd1959 · 07-24-2007, 05:17 AM

1911 or 44mag would work

just_a_car · 07-24-2007, 05:23 AM

GLOCK in .40S&W. Whether the 27, 23, or 22. I don't want to worry about it functioning if I have to go neck-deep in mud or such in ZHTF to get where I'm goin'.

Use Ball or Winchester Ranger and it will destroy the brain matter.

Max Brooks says you only need to destroy what's left of the brain, so a straight-up headshot is good enough.

billy · 07-24-2007, 05:42 AM

i think the .40 may be the correct caliber for this type of work

just_a_car · 07-24-2007, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

i think the .40 may be the correct caliber for this type of work

Yup, not a huge recoil, so good for most users, but a large enough caliber and high enough pressure cartridge to really do some damage. The .45 is great, but there are enough people out there (myself included) that have an issue with the "bang" and the recoil out of most .45ACP's. What's strange is that I have no problem with a Kimber 1911 in .45ACP, but I do with almost everything else, even milspec 1911's.

billy · 07-24-2007, 06:17 AM

i am used to the S.A. 1911 G.I but it doesn't have the capacity i require for this application.

i do not i repeat DO NOT want a 9mm. for this

even in my favorite training film DOTD they were complaining about the lack of destruction the 9mm has

drum mags are available for the 1911.
that seems like a good thing to have ready and waiting

Dallas · 07-24-2007, 07:56 AM

If the Zombies are close enough to be hit in the brain stem with a handgun, as they say down South, you in a heap of trouble boy. Instead of a handgun I would rather have a good pair of running shoes. And a nice over the should scabbard for my shotgun. Run Forest run.

ash · 07-24-2007, 10:49 AM

.45acp or .45LC and 44mag work great for causing trauma.

ArkansasHunter · 07-24-2007, 11:00 AM

Dallas thank yee !!! For use'in our southern inginueity in yore post .

If'in I needed a brain stem displacement firearm, then it wouldn't be a pistol.

It would have to be a shotgun, firing #1 buck shot ! This would even remove the whole head !...A.H

just_a_car · 07-24-2007, 01:04 PM

Alright then Dallas and AH, if it's a shotgun you need, since this is a thread about ZHTF handguns, here ya go: Serbu Super Shorty 9 12GA

Don't complain if you break your hand shootin' 3" magnums out of it, though.

odf 1bn · 07-24-2007, 03:15 PM

Serbu Super Shorty 9 12GA VERY NICE I LIKE I LIKE ALOT

David · 07-24-2007, 03:19 PM

I would just use my mosin

Johnnycat · 07-24-2007, 03:25 PM

Agree with the shotgun, buck would rather have 00 Buck.

I'm afraid that with a Zombie bearing down on me I may be shaking too much for a .40 cal. Better go with the .45ACP or .44mag+ and leave no doubt.

Can you handload silver bullets for the vampires?

ezearln · 07-24-2007, 03:26 PM

Silver bullets are for werewolves try wooden bullets for vampires, heart shots only

Johnnycat · 07-24-2007, 03:31 PM

Yeah that's right - silver bullets for werewolves.

Wooden bullet for vampires - better back it down to sub-sonic. I like the .45 with wooden spitzers for vampires.

billy · 07-24-2007, 03:52 PM

they sell 7.62x39 wooden practice rounds you know....

but yes a shotgun is a must.
now back to a sidearm.
if you are in close quarters there may not be room to use a shotgun.
im thinking a hi cap 1911 .45

ezearln · 07-24-2007, 04:07 PM

I'm thinking my M1911 with a dozen or so magazines.

ArkansasHunter · 07-24-2007, 05:19 PM

I'm thinking

SilverRun · 07-24-2007, 05:32 PM

Uhhh! I think I entered the twilight zone!

billy · 07-24-2007, 06:05 PM

sshhhh! never wake up a sleepwalker!

07-24-2007, 05:23 AM	#3
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,522	GLOCK in .40S&W. Whether the 27, 23, or 22. I don't want to worry about it functioning if I have to go neck-deep in mud or such in ZHTF to get where I'm goin'. Use Ball or Winchester Ranger and it will destroy the brain matter. Max Brooks says you only need to destroy what's left of the brain, so a straight-up headshot is good enough. __________________

07-24-2007, 05:42 AM	#4
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,154 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	i think the .40 may be the correct caliber for this type of work __________________

07-24-2007, 06:17 AM	#6
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,154 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	i am used to the S.A. 1911 G.I but it doesn't have the capacity i require for this application. i do not i repeat DO NOT want a 9mm. for this even in my favorite training film DOTD they were complaining about the lack of destruction the 9mm has drum mags are available for the 1911. that seems like a good thing to have ready and waiting __________________ Last edited by billy; 07-24-2007 at 06:24 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

07-24-2007, 07:56 AM	#7
Dallas PUKHA DAWG Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia, just outside of Washington D.C. Posts: 3,595	If the Zombies are close enough to be hit in the brain stem with a handgun, as they say down South, you in a heap of trouble boy. Instead of a handgun I would rather have a good pair of running shoes. And a nice over the should scabbard for my shotgun. Run Forest run. __________________ Those who forget History are condemed to repeat it.

07-24-2007, 01:04 PM	#10
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,522	Alright then Dallas and AH, if it's a shotgun you need, since this is a thread about ZHTF *handguns*, here ya go: Serbu Super Shorty 9 12GA Don't complain if you break your hand shootin' 3" magnums out of it, though. __________________

07-24-2007, 05:12 AM	#1
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,154 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	ZHTF handgun according to the experts the brainstem must be destroyed to incapacitate the undead. my thoughts are a ..357 1911 type pistol. it must be hi cap. any thoughts on this pressing matter? __________________

07-24-2007, 05:17 AM	#2
burd1959 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: burton michigan Posts: 606	1911 or 44mag would work

07-24-2007, 10:49 AM	#8
ash Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 934 Images: 3	.45acp or .45LC and 44mag work great for causing trauma.

07-24-2007, 11:00 AM	#9
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,699	Dallas thank yee !!! For use'in our southern inginueity in yore post . If'in I needed a brain stem displacement firearm, then it wouldn't be a pistol. It would have to be a shotgun, firing #1 buck shot ! This would even remove the whole head !...A.H

07-24-2007, 03:15 PM	#11
odf 1bn Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: central ohio Posts: 87	Serbu Super Shorty 9 12GA VERY NICE I LIKE I LIKE ALOT

07-24-2007, 03:19 PM	#12
David Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: central texas Posts: 51	I would just use my mosin

07-24-2007, 03:25 PM	#13
Johnnycat Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 246	Agree with the shotgun, buck would rather have 00 Buck. I'm afraid that with a Zombie bearing down on me I may be shaking too much for a .40 cal. Better go with the .45ACP or .44mag+ and leave no doubt. Can you handload silver bullets for the vampires?

07-24-2007, 03:26 PM	#14
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,175	Silver bullets are for werewolves try wooden bullets for vampires, heart shots only __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

07-24-2007, 03:31 PM	#15
Johnnycat Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 246	Yeah that's right - silver bullets for werewolves. Wooden bullet for vampires - better back it down to sub-sonic. I like the .45 with wooden spitzers for vampires.

07-24-2007, 03:52 PM	#16
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,154 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	they sell 7.62x39 wooden practice rounds you know.... but yes a shotgun is a must. now back to a sidearm. if you are in close quarters there may not be room to use a shotgun. im thinking a hi cap 1911 .45 __________________ Last edited by billy; 07-24-2007 at 03:54 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

07-24-2007, 04:07 PM	#17
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,175	I'm thinking my M1911 with a dozen or so magazines. __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

07-24-2007, 05:19 PM	#18
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,699	I'm thinking

07-24-2007, 05:32 PM	#19
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,661	Uhhh! I think I entered the twilight zone!

07-24-2007, 06:05 PM	#20
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,154 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	sshhhh! never wake up a sleepwalker! __________________