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| saftey removal on pa63
Can any one tell me the procedure for removing the firing pin and saftey fro the PA63 slide?
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First remove the slide from the frame. I use a small drift to push the firing pin forward of the safety. Set the safety in between the on and off position and use the side of the drift to move the safety out of its mortise. This will release the firing pin and spring. Essentially you want to hold the firing pin and spring ahead of the safety, once the safety is removed the firing pin and spring come out.HTH
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| Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: AZ
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| saftey removal
thanks for the information.
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Hi all vbmenu_register("postmenu_229620", true); New to this site. I have one for the Vintovki. I was do a firing pin spring replacement like you had talked about. May what to also tell about the spring and pins for the ejector that will come out. I got the firing pin spring back in back unable to get that little plug in for the spring with the ejector. any help. May needto take to the gunsmith for that. Phxbird |
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| Senior Member | Replacing extractor on PA-63
I think you mean the extractor not ejector; to replace the extractor you first should be certain that the chase it fits in to is clear of grease/dirt. Your parts should be clean as well. place the safety catch plunger on the extractor spring using a tiny amount of gun grease to hold it, place the extractor plunger on the extractor spring it should fit tightly on the tail end. This assembly need to be put into the chase and the extractor need to be manipulated far enough back to allow the rearmost section to drop into its cutout in the chase. The spring pressure will hold it in place. I use a Makarov extractor tool that comes on some of the Mak cleaning rods this makes holkding the spring assembly back and positioning the extractor much easier.
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That's how I lost my PA-63 parts. I found... the hard way... to remove the extractor first by manipulating the plunger and spring. The extractor will come out the side, and the spring and plunger will come forward. There is a little pin (follower) that is pressured by the plunger spring to hold it against the safety/de-cocker. If your parts have fallen out, carefully install the little pin with the round end toward the de-cocker and then reinstall the firing pin and de-cocker. The last thing to do is to reinstall the extractor and the plunger with spring. It's a great little gun that is really simple if you disassemble in the proper order. You can get new springs from Wolff springs. I recommend the 11 pound for both the recoil and the hammer (two springs) and I replace the firing pin spring at the same time. Keep shooting. Dave |
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I did the same thing, dgray64, spent hands and knees time looking for those little parts. Reinstalling that safety plunger pin is a bugger. I sort of balanced it into place holding the slide down and coaxing the pin with a jeweler's screwdriver. Anyone have a good technique for this? Since then, I've taken the extractor out first and held the slide down while removing the safety so the safety plunger/pin stays put.
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If anybody ever finds any detailed teardown information about these, PLEASE post it up willya?
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I would really love a nice diagram of the slide too.
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Not really sure you want to remove the safety for there are springs and pins that will fall out. They're sequential when going back in. The plunger for the extractor has polarity. I just did it and it took me 35 mins and I nearly lost the extractor spring. However, the safety works smoother now.
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My safety was very stiff. I clipped a couple of turns off the safety/extractor spring and it works smooth and crisp now.
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| I had considered this as well but I was unsure how this would affect extraction. That is a dual purpose spring. Have you test fired your PA63 since you trimmed the spring?
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I've put over 300 rounds in it since then, without a problem. Of course, I bought one of those generic spring packs from Wolff a while back and used one for the cylinder plunger spring on my Taurus revolver...Taurus wanted me to send the revolver back, wouldn't send me a spring. A buddy warned me it might be six months before I got it back, so I bought Wolff's spring pack. There's a spring in there that looks like it would do just fine for the PA 63 extractor/safety, so I took the chance of cutting a couple of turns. Luckily, it's working well.
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Thanks Dr. I may try to trim that spring a tiny tad. I have done an entire spring revamp of my PA63 since I got it but for the extractor/safety tension spring. What arrived as a crude, clunky old pistol is now a smooth functioning machine.Springs are the key to a nice semiauto pistol. The next time I take the safety out I'll do the disassemby in a clear plastic bag.Boing-g-g!
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OK folks, I have removed the safety again. This time I polished the extractor and the plunger that rides up on the extractor. Also I shortened the spring for the extractor/safety tension[it's a duel purpose spring]. Don't remove more than a loop or two at most. Once you get the hang of it removal/reassembly only takes 5 minutes but be aware that springs fly away when you 1st disassemble. That is your prime concern. The PA63 responds well to TLC. You can really end up with a pistol that operates smooth as silk although it isn't the pistol an E German Mak is. There's a little trick that aids takedown of the safety. Use needle nose to grab the firing pin after you depress it.
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Yea I did alot of work to mine. I am hoping that tomorrow I get a chance to check it all out at the range. Maybe I will have it down to a decent group now. I was wondering what rate springs ya'll have used in yours.
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| pa 63
anyone tell me how to get the button for the clipp out of my pa63??? polishing up the the alloy part jim |
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This is a quote from Vintovki, First remove the slide from the frame. I use a small drift to push the firing pin forward of the safety. Set the safety in between the on and off position and use the side of the drift to move the safety out of its mortise. This will release the firing pin and spring. Essentially you want to hold the firing pin and spring ahead of the safety, once the safety is removed the firing pin and spring come out.HTH |
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looking for a tear down diagram for the pa63 ???
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Litchfield County, Connecticut
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Check this out. http://stevespages.com/pdf/kbi_pa63.pdf |
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