Back to basics

Doctor Larry K · 10-09-2007, 05:21 PM

Years ago as a new LEO I learned to shoot on a Model 13. I got good enough to shoot on the departments pistol team for two years. Years later it seems all the pistols in my collection are semi-auto.
A buddy's brother acquired a bull barrel model 10 (although I think they call it a 64-4 now) Anyway I talked him into trading the stainless .38 for my Beretta Tomcat.

Not so much for the functionality of the pistol but for old times sake. I haven't shot a revolver in 20+ years. It will be fun learning all over again.

Thanks for listening.

Doc

Triggerjerk · 10-09-2007, 05:25 PM

I love my heavy barrel Model 10. I had a really fine one years ago, but of course I traded it or sold it...sigh

By the way, NYPD's famoud Stakeout Squad used Model 10's. The famous gunfighter Jim Cirrillo took out three bad guys, two were holding hostages, with a Model 10. This was the origination of the Cirillo Drill. Revolvers work...

Doctor Larry K · 10-10-2007, 08:52 AM

When we lost Cirillo we lost a true champion. RIP Jim.

Doc

TJ, The model is a 64-3. I took the grips off the revolver and on the square butt frame a large "L" is stamped on the frame. The gun seems larger than I remember my heavy barrel Model 10 or 13 to be. Does anyone know if this could be a "L" frame Smith. The weapon appear very clean and tight but the timing may be off .001 or maybe its just me. Also on the frame is marked an "S", the serial is 7D54xxx.

If anyone can help me with the date of manufacture I would appreciate it.

Thanks in Advance

Doc

rfc357 · 10-10-2007, 08:00 PM

A 64 is a K-frame, exactly the same size as a Model 10. I have never seen an L-frame in .38, but Smith may have made some on special order.

If you can see timing off by .001", your eyes are better than mine.

The 64-3 was introduced in 1977. In 1982, the pinned barrel was changed to not pinned, but the model number did not change. The 64-4 replaced the 64-3 in 1988.

Model 10 is blue, 64 is stainless.

Doctor Larry K · 10-11-2007, 08:55 AM

Thanks RFC, I appreciate the updated info. I cleaned and oiled the revolver, loaded it with Winchester JHPs +P and put it in an accessable place in my bedroom.

Doc

Triggerjerk · 10-11-2007, 09:03 AM

My Model 10 sleeps next to the bed at night...exact same ammo, Winchester 125 gr. JHP +p. Personally, I cannot imagine a better handgun for home defense.

gunney_m · 10-11-2007, 12:59 PM

50. desert eagle.

rfc357 · 10-11-2007, 07:12 PM

You're welcome. I should have added some Model 10s are nickel, and I have seen military issue Model 10s (and their predecessors, the M&P) that were parkerized. Don't know if the park finish was factory or military applied.

A-10 · 10-11-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gunney_m

50. desert eagle.

Only if you plan on having your home invaded by armored vehicles.

billy · 10-11-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gunney_m

50. desert eagle.

.454 casull 300 gr. hollowpoints

10-09-2007, 05:21 PM	#1
Doctor Larry K Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palm Springs, Calif. Posts: 427	Back to basics Years ago as a new LEO I learned to shoot on a Model 13. I got good enough to shoot on the departments pistol team for two years. Years later it seems all the pistols in my collection are semi-auto. A buddy's brother acquired a bull barrel model 10 (although I think they call it a 64-4 now) Anyway I talked him into trading the stainless .38 for my Beretta Tomcat. Not so much for the functionality of the pistol but for old times sake. I haven't shot a revolver in 20+ years. It will be fun learning all over again. Thanks for listening. Doc

10-09-2007, 05:25 PM	#2
Triggerjerk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 978	I love my heavy barrel Model 10. I had a really fine one years ago, but of course I traded it or sold it...sigh By the way, NYPD's famoud Stakeout Squad used Model 10's. The famous gunfighter Jim Cirrillo took out three bad guys, two were holding hostages, with a Model 10. This was the origination of the Cirillo Drill. Revolvers work... __________________ We old dogs can learn new tricks. We just may not like performng them. TJ Last edited by Triggerjerk; 10-09-2007 at 05:38 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

10-10-2007, 08:52 AM	#3
Doctor Larry K Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palm Springs, Calif. Posts: 427	When we lost Cirillo we lost a true champion. RIP Jim. Doc TJ, The model is a 64-3. I took the grips off the revolver and on the square butt frame a large "L" is stamped on the frame. The gun seems larger than I remember my heavy barrel Model 10 or 13 to be. Does anyone know if this could be a "L" frame Smith. The weapon appear very clean and tight but the timing may be off .001 or maybe its just me. Also on the frame is marked an "S", the serial is 7D54xxx. If anyone can help me with the date of manufacture I would appreciate it. Thanks in Advance Doc Last edited by Doctor Larry K; 10-10-2007 at 03:24 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

10-11-2007, 09:03 AM	#6
Triggerjerk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 978	My Model 10 sleeps next to the bed at night...exact same ammo, Winchester 125 gr. JHP +p. Personally, I cannot imagine a better handgun for home defense. __________________ We old dogs can learn new tricks. We just may not like performng them. TJ

10-10-2007, 08:00 PM	#4
rfc357 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 741	A 64 is a K-frame, exactly the same size as a Model 10. I have never seen an L-frame in .38, but Smith may have made some on special order. If you can see timing off by .001", your eyes are better than mine. The 64-3 was introduced in 1977. In 1982, the pinned barrel was changed to not pinned, but the model number did not change. The 64-4 replaced the 64-3 in 1988. Model 10 is blue, 64 is stainless.

10-11-2007, 08:55 AM	#5
Doctor Larry K Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palm Springs, Calif. Posts: 427	Thanks RFC, I appreciate the updated info. I cleaned and oiled the revolver, loaded it with Winchester JHPs +P and put it in an accessable place in my bedroom. Doc

10-11-2007, 12:59 PM	#7
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931	50. desert eagle.

10-11-2007, 07:12 PM	#8
rfc357 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 741	You're welcome. I should have added some Model 10s are nickel, and I have seen military issue Model 10s (and their predecessors, the M&P) that were parkerized. Don't know if the park finish was factory or military applied.