.17 mach 2 or .22 lr

wheelingranger · 10-14-2007, 01:12 PM

im trying to find an appropiat gun for me and i dont know if i want the cz 425 .17 mach or the .22 lr. i used to play paintball and i know some people like "tight" or "lose" paintballs. is that how its like withbullets

lefty o · 10-14-2007, 01:30 PM

what do you want to use the rifle for?

wheelingranger · 10-14-2007, 01:46 PM

mainly target

billy · 10-14-2007, 02:20 PM

.17 is supposed to be great BUT it cost a heckuva lot more than .22lr
and the wind is even worse with the .17 than it is with the .22

Zen900 · 10-14-2007, 03:11 PM

The 22LR should be bought before the 17M2 because the 22LR is the most successful round ever devised. There surely must be a reason for this success. The 17M2 is merely a smaller cousin of the 22LR who can throw further and faster. If you really, really like the 22LR then I suggest that is when you should get the M2 to further your hobby.

And yeppers indeed: the 17M2 is more expensive.

wheelingranger · 10-14-2007, 03:23 PM

thanks alot now what would you guys perfer for that gun since changing the caliber changes the twist rate?

Zen900 · 10-14-2007, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelingranger

thanks alot now what would you guys perfer for that gun since changing the caliber changes the twist rate?

Dunno. I got the 17M2 by converting my Ruger 10/22 into a 10/17 because I thought it would be a blast to have a semiauto rimfire on steroids.
Some folks had trouble with the conversions so be aware before hand. Expensive fun it is. 22LR is fun too.

Triggerjerk · 10-14-2007, 03:36 PM

If you are handy you can do what I do...hit all the gun shops looking for deals on used .22 rifles and take them apart and clean them up. Bolt actions are generally more accurate, and unlike semi-autos, they will feed any kind of ammunition. Some semi-autos have trouble feeding some ammo into the chamber or ejecting it. .22 rifles have the correct rate of twist for .22 ammo.

.22guy · 10-14-2007, 03:56 PM

I'd say the .22. You can buy ammo that is 10 bucks for 500, or 10 bucks for 50 and pretty much every price (read: quality) in between. But I guess I'm biased towards the .22 (look at my user name).

Triggerjerk · 10-14-2007, 04:33 PM

You can also get all different kinds of .22 LR. All of it will work in a bolt action.

wheelingranger · 10-14-2007, 04:41 PM

thanks again i think im going with the .22 lr

SilentSoul · 10-14-2007, 06:24 PM

And if you need quiet .22 subsonics are easy to find.

Dan22 · 10-14-2007, 07:17 PM

Looks like I'm a day late and a dollar short on this one but I agree the .22 is probably the best one for target shooting.

The .22 ammo is about ten times cheaper.

billy · 10-15-2007, 11:10 PM

i have come to prefer bolts over semis.
fewer parts,tighter lockup, better accuracy as a rule.

Zen900 · 10-16-2007, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

i have come to prefer bolts over semis.
fewer parts,tighter lockup, better accuracy as a rule.

You yourself know the rules of this hobby. You can't just have one or the other. You are required to own both.

Dan22 · 10-16-2007, 05:58 AM

Zen,

I need at least four.

Pump
Lever
Bolt
Semi-Auto

billy · 10-16-2007, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen900

You yourself know the rules of this hobby. You can't just have one or the other. You are required to own both.

wait just a darn minute here!
of course ya gotta have both.
ya need a 10-22 to pour any extra cash you may have laying around into!

Magnumsrule · 12-04-2007, 09:08 PM

just the 17. hmr is also a good rimfire in the cz but again the amoo does cost more, my cz 22 Lr is marvelous and i woudn't trade it for any other 22.

jashoffa · 12-04-2007, 09:19 PM

I think everyone should own at least one .22 rifle and that .22 should be a Ruger 10-22 there just isn't any more versital .22lr gun out there. If it is something you like go get one. You can also get several other .22's some autos and some bolt actions for less than a 10-22 and I don't think there are many are not a good gun. Have fun and shoot often. As mentioned that is much easier with a .22 just due to cost!

Magnumsrule · 12-04-2007, 09:23 PM

the only thing with a 10-22 is that you would not get the accuracy that you would otherwise get out of a bolt action. I think thats what your original specs where?

10-14-2007, 01:12 PM	#1
wheelingranger Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wheeling ,wv Posts: 74	.17 mach 2 or .22 lr im trying to find an appropiat gun for me and i dont know if i want the cz 425 .17 mach or the .22 lr. i used to play paintball and i know some people like "tight" or "lose" paintballs. is that how its like withbullets

10-14-2007, 02:20 PM	#4
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,150 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	.17 is supposed to be great BUT it cost a heckuva lot more than .22lr and the wind is even worse with the .17 than it is with the .22 __________________

10-14-2007, 03:36 PM	#8
Triggerjerk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 978	If you are handy you can do what I do...hit all the gun shops looking for deals on used .22 rifles and take them apart and clean them up. Bolt actions are generally more accurate, and unlike semi-autos, they will feed any kind of ammunition. Some semi-autos have trouble feeding some ammo into the chamber or ejecting it. .22 rifles have the correct rate of twist for .22 ammo. __________________ We old dogs can learn new tricks. We just may not like performng them. TJ

10-14-2007, 03:56 PM	#9
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,157	I'd say the .22. You can buy ammo that is 10 bucks for 500, or 10 bucks for 50 and pretty much every price (read: quality) in between. But I guess I'm biased towards the .22 (look at my user name). __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

10-14-2007, 04:33 PM	#10
Triggerjerk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 978	You can also get all different kinds of .22 LR. All of it will work in a bolt action. __________________ We old dogs can learn new tricks. We just may not like performng them. TJ

10-14-2007, 01:30 PM	#2
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,805	what do you want to use the rifle for?

10-14-2007, 01:46 PM	#3
wheelingranger Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wheeling ,wv Posts: 74	mainly target

10-14-2007, 03:11 PM	#5
Zen900 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 700	The 22LR should be bought before the 17M2 because the 22LR is the most successful round ever devised. There surely must be a reason for this success. The 17M2 is merely a smaller cousin of the 22LR who can throw further and faster. If you really, really like the 22LR then I suggest that is when you should get the M2 to further your hobby. And yeppers indeed: the 17M2 is more expensive.

10-14-2007, 03:23 PM	#6
wheelingranger Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wheeling ,wv Posts: 74	thanks alot now what would you guys perfer for that gun since changing the caliber changes the twist rate?

10-14-2007, 04:41 PM	#11
wheelingranger Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wheeling ,wv Posts: 74	thanks again i think im going with the .22 lr

10-14-2007, 06:24 PM	#12
SilentSoul Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 603 Images: 1	And if you need quiet .22 subsonics are easy to find.

10-14-2007, 07:17 PM	#13
Dan22 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 391	Looks like I'm a day late and a dollar short on this one but I agree the .22 is probably the best one for target shooting. The .22 ammo is about ten times cheaper.

10-15-2007, 11:10 PM	#14
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,150 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	i have come to prefer bolts over semis. fewer parts,tighter lockup, better accuracy as a rule. __________________

10-16-2007, 05:58 AM	#16
Dan22 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 391	Zen, I need at least four. Pump Lever Bolt Semi-Auto

12-04-2007, 09:08 PM	#18
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 593 Blog Entries: 2	just the 17. hmr is also a good rimfire in the cz but again the amoo does cost more, my cz 22 Lr is marvelous and i woudn't trade it for any other 22. __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!

12-04-2007, 09:19 PM	#19
jashoffa Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 409	I think everyone should own at least one .22 rifle and that .22 should be a Ruger 10-22 there just isn't any more versital .22lr gun out there. If it is something you like go get one. You can also get several other .22's some autos and some bolt actions for less than a 10-22 and I don't think there are many are not a good gun. Have fun and shoot often. As mentioned that is much easier with a .22 just due to cost! __________________ "I don't go shooting without my guns and they don't go shooting without me!" Member NRA

12-04-2007, 09:23 PM	#20
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 593 Blog Entries: 2	the only thing with a 10-22 is that you would not get the accuracy that you would otherwise get out of a bolt action. I think thats what your original specs where? __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!