Needed..barrel for an 1897

Goteeman · 11-18-2007, 06:56 AM

I inherited a Winchester Model 1897 that has some unfortunate barrel damage and need to find a replacement barrel. According to the serial number it was made around 1904 (SN 229504). I was told that the barrel is too short, what is the proper way to measure it?

Thank you for your time, Mark.

Mooseman684 · 11-18-2007, 02:29 PM

Here is a link for an 1897 Trenchgun Barrel available. You measure from the breech where the shell is seated to the end of the Barrel. Federal Law requires 18 inches ( 18.1 is better so there is no question as to legality!)
Winchester M-1897 Trench Gun Ventilated Barrel Jacket w/ Bayonet Mount - International Military Antiques
Rich

Goteeman · 11-18-2007, 02:45 PM

Thanks, unfortunately it is only the jacket and not an actual barrel. If I open the breech I can see the end of the barrel and I measure 18" but when I took it to Cabelas they told me it was too short. How do I know for sure, should I take it apart to measure the barrel accurately. I am a little confused on the matter of barrel length.....

Mooseman684 · 11-18-2007, 02:50 PM

here is another link to 1897 barrels...
Parts Template
Rich

Goteeman · 11-18-2007, 02:56 PM

Dude you rock, thanks a million. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks.

Mooseman684 · 11-18-2007, 02:56 PM

Insert a FIRED 12 ga. hull into the barrel. Measure from the back end of the hull to the end of the barrel. This is the actual length, Not including the rear end of the barrel that goes into the reciever that sticks out behind the breech...That is how they are measured.
Rich

ricey · 11-19-2007, 01:36 PM

goteeman, take to a good gun smith,get the job done right, and no big bang !

ArkansasHunter · 11-19-2007, 01:42 PM

YEP our Mooseman ROCKS !!!! He doesn't seem to mind giveing out a lot of free information.
Were Blessed to have him as a member. But if you buy a Taurus Hand Gun he'll come see you !!!!

rckymtnboy · 11-19-2007, 03:01 PM

IMO, Mooseman's advice is just as good as hearing it from a gunsmith.

Goteeman · 11-19-2007, 06:26 PM

I called a reputed gun smith in our area and he told me to close the breach and stick a rod down the barrel until it touches the bolt face, mark the rod, pull it out and measure from the end of the rod to the mark. I did so and got a measurement of 18 1/8". Is this bad boy legal?

11-18-2007, 06:56 AM	#1
Goteeman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0)	Needed..barrel for an 1897 I inherited a Winchester Model 1897 that has some unfortunate barrel damage and need to find a replacement barrel. According to the serial number it was made around 1904 (SN 229504). I was told that the barrel is too short, what is the proper way to measure it? Thank you for your time, Mark.

11-18-2007, 02:29 PM	#2
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,040 Trader Rating: (0)	Here is a link for an 1897 Trenchgun Barrel available. You measure from the breech where the shell is seated to the end of the Barrel. Federal Law requires 18 inches ( 18.1 is better so there is no question as to legality!) Winchester M-1897 Trench Gun Ventilated Barrel Jacket w/ Bayonet Mount - International Military Antiques Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

11-18-2007, 02:50 PM	#4
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,040 Trader Rating: (0)	here is another link to 1897 barrels... Parts Template Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

11-18-2007, 02:56 PM	#6
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,040 Trader Rating: (0)	Insert a FIRED 12 ga. hull into the barrel. Measure from the back end of the hull to the end of the barrel. This is the actual length, Not including the rear end of the barrel that goes into the reciever that sticks out behind the breech...That is how they are measured. Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

11-19-2007, 03:01 PM	#9
rckymtnboy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I am a dual resident. Posts: 340 Trader Rating: (0)	IMO, Mooseman's advice is just as good as hearing it from a gunsmith. __________________ When they come for my guns, I'll give 'em the bullets first!

11-18-2007, 02:45 PM	#3
Goteeman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks, unfortunately it is only the jacket and not an actual barrel. If I open the breech I can see the end of the barrel and I measure 18" but when I took it to Cabelas they told me it was too short. How do I know for sure, should I take it apart to measure the barrel accurately. I am a little confused on the matter of barrel length.....

11-19-2007, 01:36 PM	#7
ricey Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0)	goteeman, take to a good gun smith,get the job done right, and no big bang !

11-19-2007, 01:42 PM	#8
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,406 Trader Rating: (0)	YEP our Mooseman ROCKS !!!! He doesn't seem to mind giveing out a lot of free information. Were Blessed to have him as a member. But if you buy a Taurus Hand Gun he'll come see you !!!!

11-19-2007, 06:26 PM	#10
Goteeman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0)	I called a reputed gun smith in our area and he told me to close the breach and stick a rod down the barrel until it touches the bolt face, mark the rod, pull it out and measure from the end of the rod to the mark. I did so and got a measurement of 18 1/8". Is this bad boy legal?

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