Cz52

gunney_m · 11-17-2007, 06:24 PM

What do you guys think about Cz52? Would you consider 7.62.25 more powerful than 9mm? I have shot my brother in law's and it has a stouter recoil than a 9luger so, do you think it would be ok for plinking and home defence?

ArkansasHunter · 11-17-2007, 07:17 PM

gunney theres several members here that own them and there outstanding pistols.
And if I read correctly there very much more potent than a 9mm.
I might be wrong about the cartridge it shoots but I do know the ones that own them love them,,,A,H

gunney_m · 11-17-2007, 07:19 PM

Great, have they ever jammed, I found one on J&G for $129, I was also watching people fire them on youtube and seen a few jam?

YouTube - Shooting the CZ 52

YouTube - CZ-52

these are just a few videos ive seen on CZ 52's and im impressed but semms like some are having feed problems?

NRAJOE · 11-17-2007, 08:35 PM

I once had 7...sold all but one when I got laid off a couple years ago.

Looked for another at the gunshow today but none were around....damn fine pistol for the money!

gunney_m · 11-17-2007, 08:46 PM

Im having a dealer order from J&G, thanks.

NRAJOE · 11-17-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunney_m

Im having a dealer order from J&G, thanks.

Good on ya!

I had a couple jam but sent away for the Wollf 16# spring for the one I still have and zero problems...

The Makarov Page - The CZ-52

Makarov.com On-Line Shopping Cart

2 great links on the CZ52 above...have fun!

Oh, I used too have a pic of the 9mm vs. the 7.62x25 on a piece of 1/4 inch steel...9mm just dented it....7.62x25 went right through it.

gunney_m · 11-17-2007, 09:10 PM

Nice, thanks for the insight.

SilverRun · 11-17-2007, 10:00 PM

I think you will really like the pistol. I had 2 and my father has one. One of the three did occasionally jam - nothing really bad. I sold it. The other two are 100% reliable. A couple things to watch for: do not dry fire it, and check to make sure the decoker does not hit the firing pin. A weak firing pin and occasional decoker problem are the only drawbacks of this pistol.
BTW, it is a lot faster than a 9 x 19.
Oh yea - don't forget the ear plugs!!

gunney_m · 11-17-2007, 10:03 PM

Thanks man.

phoenix79 · 11-17-2007, 10:13 PM

I have 2. I love them both. Milsurp ammo is cheap (avoid the bulgarian), LOTS of penetration. The actual stopping power is debatable because it is a small diameter bullet at high velocities (~1500fps). It's great taking it to the range too, unless someone is shooting magnums it's prolly gonna have the loudest bang and the most fire

Have fun with your new czech-o-matic

dgray64 · 11-17-2007, 10:25 PM

I love mine. The only thing I disliked was the way it zings the brass away like all CZs. I finally bought a "Catch-It" brass catcher that you wear on your hand and it picks off every piece of brass.

The gun is heavy and really accurate. I haven't had many fireballs out of it like the videos. The clip is not fast to get out either for reloading. Great gun for the money!

Dave

gunney_m · 11-17-2007, 10:28 PM

Thanks for the information, has either one of yours jammed, where did you get it, what condition is it in?

knightRider · 11-18-2007, 01:11 PM

i think its a great pistol for the cash

Big Dog · 11-18-2007, 02:47 PM

I'm into my second 800-round Spam can of Bulgarian ammo from Sportsman's Guide, and have NEVER had a jam or hiccup of any kind. It is corrosive, so requires cleaning after shooting, as with most any milsurp ammo.
Best 'bang for the buck' in pistols!

One tip - there are two leather holsters available for the CZ52 - one is a dark soft leather, prone to developing a white fungus growth. The better one is a stiffer tan leather, very heavy duty! I like it, and use it for range carry.

gunney_m · 11-18-2007, 04:02 PM

Thanks, all your information will lean me towards buying it for sure.

Zen900 · 11-18-2007, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunney_m

Great, have they ever jammed, I found one on J&G for $129, I was also watching people fire them on youtube and seen a few jam?
YouTube - Shooting the CZ 52
YouTube - CZ-52 these are just a few videos ive seen on CZ 52's and im impressed but semms like some are having feed problems?

That may be the CZ52 but the shooters may be using 9mm barrel conversions. That jams because the 7.62 x 25 is much longer than the 9 x 19 and doesnt fit properly in the magThe Box O' Truth #29 - The Helmets O' Truth - Page 1. I have the CZ and it is much much more powerful than 9mm. 1500fps vs 1100fps. The CZ feeds extremely well. The sights are crummy but representitive of their time..

gunney_m · 11-18-2007, 04:16 PM

Thanks a million, needed another opinion on power, thanks.

blaster · 11-18-2007, 04:47 PM

they are fine pistols, I've had several (down to 2 now) never had a jam even with ugly looking surplus ammo. the 7.62x25 is a really high velocity pistol round. although the Russians got on the small caliber body armor defeater band wagon, they seriously considered modifying the 7.62x25 for that role. penetration with ball ammo is amazing. too much for home defense. hollow points are expensive. I just started reloading that cal. for that reason. If you are ordering one from J&G, order their replacement firing pin for about 9 bucks that way when you accidentally dry fire it you wont break the firing pin. enjoy, they are a lot of pistol for the money!

gunney_m · 11-18-2007, 04:50 PM

Thanks, too much for home defence(where did you ever hear such a saying)?

blaster · 11-18-2007, 05:01 PM

you will shoot through the walls of your house and your neighbors too

11-17-2007, 06:24 PM	#1
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0)	Cz52 What do you guys think about Cz52? Would you consider 7.62.25 more powerful than 9mm? I have shot my brother in law's and it has a stouter recoil than a 9luger so, do you think it would be ok for plinking and home defence?

11-17-2007, 08:35 PM	#4
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,010 Trader Rating: (0)	I once had 7...sold all but one when I got laid off a couple years ago. Looked for another at the gunshow today but none were around....damn fine pistol for the money! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

11-18-2007, 01:11 PM	#13
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,576 Trader Rating: (0)	i think its a great pistol for the cash __________________ I'm part kalishnakov, part heckler and Koch.

11-18-2007, 02:47 PM	#14
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,063 Trader Rating: (0)	I'm into my second 800-round Spam can of Bulgarian ammo from Sportsman's Guide, and have NEVER had a jam or hiccup of any kind. It is corrosive, so requires cleaning after shooting, as with most any milsurp ammo. Best 'bang for the buck' in pistols! One tip - there are two leather holsters available for the CZ52 - one is a dark soft leather, prone to developing a white fungus growth. The better one is a stiffer tan leather, very heavy duty! I like it, and use it for range carry. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

11-18-2007, 04:47 PM	#18
blaster Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: big pine key, florida Posts: 400 Trader Rating: (0)	they are fine pistols, I've had several (down to 2 now) never had a jam even with ugly looking surplus ammo. the 7.62x25 is a really high velocity pistol round. although the Russians got on the small caliber body armor defeater band wagon, they seriously considered modifying the 7.62x25 for that role. penetration with ball ammo is amazing. too much for home defense. hollow points are expensive. I just started reloading that cal. for that reason. If you are ordering one from J&G, order their replacement firing pin for about 9 bucks that way when you accidentally dry fire it you wont break the firing pin. enjoy, they are a lot of pistol for the money! __________________ peace through superior firepower

11-17-2007, 07:17 PM	#2
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,504 Trader Rating: (0)	gunney theres several members here that own them and there outstanding pistols. And if I read correctly there very much more potent than a 9mm. I might be wrong about the cartridge it shoots but I do know the ones that own them love them,,,A,H

11-17-2007, 08:46 PM	#5
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0)	Im having a dealer order from J&G, thanks.

11-17-2007, 09:10 PM	#7
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0)	Nice, thanks for the insight.

11-17-2007, 10:00 PM	#8
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,659 Trader Rating: (0)	I think you will really like the pistol. I had 2 and my father has one. One of the three did occasionally jam - nothing really bad. I sold it. The other two are 100% reliable. A couple things to watch for: do not dry fire it, and check to make sure the decoker does not hit the firing pin. A weak firing pin and occasional decoker problem are the only drawbacks of this pistol. BTW, it is a lot faster than a 9 x 19. Oh yea - don't forget the ear plugs!!

11-17-2007, 10:03 PM	#9
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks man.

11-17-2007, 10:13 PM	#10
phoenix79 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 218 Trader Rating: (0)	I have 2. I love them both. Milsurp ammo is cheap (avoid the bulgarian), LOTS of penetration. The actual stopping power is debatable because it is a small diameter bullet at high velocities (~1500fps). It's great taking it to the range too, unless someone is shooting magnums it's prolly gonna have the loudest bang and the most fire Have fun with your new czech-o-matic

11-17-2007, 10:25 PM	#11
dgray64 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: central Texas Posts: 207 Trader Rating: (0)	I love mine. The only thing I disliked was the way it zings the brass away like all CZs. I finally bought a "Catch-It" brass catcher that you wear on your hand and it picks off every piece of brass. The gun is heavy and really accurate. I haven't had many fireballs out of it like the videos. The clip is not fast to get out either for reloading. Great gun for the money! Dave

11-17-2007, 10:28 PM	#12
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks for the information, has either one of yours jammed, where did you get it, what condition is it in?

11-18-2007, 04:02 PM	#15
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks, all your information will lean me towards buying it for sure.

11-18-2007, 04:16 PM	#17
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks a million, needed another opinion on power, thanks.

11-18-2007, 04:50 PM	#19
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks, too much for home defence(where did you ever hear such a saying)?

11-18-2007, 05:01 PM	#20
blaster Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: big pine key, florida Posts: 400 Trader Rating: (0)	you will shoot through the walls of your house and your neighbors too __________________ peace through superior firepower