You can pack 50lbs of stuff. What do you take?

Dan22 · 11-22-2007, 10:28 AM

I like the thread with 20 items but some items are very light so I would rather set a weight limit.

My rifle could be carried with a sling so I will not consider that part of the bag contents.

Just weighed a 500 round brick of Winchester Super-X .22 ammo and it came in at 3lbs-14Oz.

My multi-gadget pocket knife weighs 3.4 Oz and a pair of magnifier glasses weighs in at .07oz.

It would be hard to estimate weights of some items so just wing it.

I would also include a few small ziploc bags to keep stuff dry.

gunney_m · 11-22-2007, 11:48 AM

Snacks, tent, ammo, magazines(books).

damage855 · 11-22-2007, 01:33 PM

I have wieghed my camping backpack loaded in at 54lbs. so if i can scrape by with the extra 4lbs Ill take it. it usally has glock .40 with 50rds ammo. glock folding shovel and feild knife. military stlye jungle hamock MRE's or other freeze dried foods water pump/filter compass maps handheld CB radio with the weather band mesh kit ect. thats the majority of the goodies there are a few more like toliet paper but those thing go without mention.

billy · 11-22-2007, 04:59 PM

the 1st thing i would do is dump about 25lbs. of crap out of my pack

Dan22 · 11-22-2007, 09:02 PM

Damage, 54lbs would be fine. I'm just looking for a number the average guy could lug around without wearing himself out.

A big young athletic guy could carry more stuff with less effort than some of us older guys who may even weigh a little more than we should.

Almost anyone should be able to carry 50lbs in a do or die situation. You have nothing but time so frequent breaks shouldn't be a problem.

Come to think of it, with all these reality shows on TV, they should get a bunch of people with their survival packs and drop them off in a remote area and tell them to get to a certain point by a specific date. GPS locaters could make sure they don't get too lost.

My rule would be that all contestants had to pack their own bag with no more than 50 lbs of equipment of their own choice. Could be very revealing in the end.

damage855 · 11-23-2007, 07:22 AM

Dan22 sounds like fun where do I sign up!

gunney_m · 11-23-2007, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan22

Damage, 54lbs would be fine. I'm just looking for a number the average guy could lug around without wearing himself out.

A big young athletic guy could carry more stuff with less effort than some of us older guys who may even weigh a little more than we should.

Almost anyone should be able to carry 50lbs in a do or die situation. You have nothing but time so frequent breaks shouldn't be a problem.

Come to think of it, with all these reality shows on TV, they should get a bunch of people with their survival packs and drop them off in a remote area and tell them to get to a certain point by a specific date. GPS locaters could make sure they don't get too lost.

My rule would be that all contestants had to pack their own bag with no more than 50 lbs of equipment of their own choice. Could be very revealing in the end.

Now that would be a survival series.

andrew cochran · 11-28-2007, 02:46 PM

Good idea about 50 LB instead of 20 things. However I was meaning on a limited amout of items. like if you had to leave today!

aris_unlimited · 12-07-2007, 04:42 AM

Well most likely I would be taking my wife with me (pack mule

) lol. So figuring in with her I could Probably get about 80lbs of stuff out. I would take all my .308, .22, and .40 ammo. We would both have a sidearm (.40 cal) I would carry the .308 and she could carry the .22. I would have water purification tablets. Dehydrated food (dehydrating food makes it so much lighter and you can do it with so much food) we also have hiking tents which are pretty light weight. Eating utensils.Toiletries. And extra underwear and socks. Extra outerwear would be optional. Flashlights. Extra batteries. And 2 hunting knives (1 apiece).
.........now going over my list I wonder if I could get that all in 80lbs lol. I will have to assemble it all and weigh it. Will keep you guys updated lol.

fullMetalJack · 12-08-2007, 02:17 AM

well i recently made a shtf bag. although i have not weighed it , i estimate it in between 50 and 60 pounds. if it really came down to it i believe i could haul as much as a hundred pounds with my kelty bag with ease.but i would like to be light and agile. i dont include my rifle because it wound be in my hand in a shtf situation.(henry ar-7 survival 22)
*fishing line and hooks
*Kabar usmc knife
*gerber poly hatchet
*water pump filter
*flint stone
*kelty sleeping bag
*m48 flashlight (extra batteries)
*wool socks
*gloves
*beanie
*poncho
*etrex gps(extra batteries)
*brick of ammo
*small bottle of vodka(flask size)
*10 gel packets (rations)
*nalgene bottle (empty)
*pup tent
*130 feet of small rope
*three hefty bags(for body heat containment)
*box of matches
*trick birthday candles(the ones that reignite),"it was a theory i thought up in a situation with wind and a need of fire, what better than a reigniting candle"
*crank up radio/flashlight
*burris binoculars
* a can of snuff(bad habit)
*first aid kit
and my loaded s&w 40 on my thigh.(two extra mags)

pack tight and water proof
self efficiency is key with food sources
in this type of situation. its always good to have a general idea of a plan in this situation. locations where resources for your stronghold are abundant is your best bet of survival.
in this situation i believe I would have more than a 50 pound pack if available but you never know if you'll have enough time so its good to have a bug out bag on the ready.

happy hunting gents

Dan22 · 12-08-2007, 06:41 AM

FMJ, 50 lbs is just a number. If anyone thinks they can lug more than 50 lbs with no problem, go for it.

If it is hot, it gets more tiring than comfortable temperatures. A lot depends on your climate, ambient temperature range, humidity, and terrain.

What you might need in the Rockies would be quite different from the east. The southwest would be pretty hot for most and Florida would be very uncomfortable in the summer. Winter in Florida would be a much lower humidity situation.

Some areas have bad mosquitos so a big piece of screen would help for sleeping.

This was just an excercise to make us think about what we really need to stay alive and fairly comfortable but still be able to lift it.

billy · 12-08-2007, 08:08 AM

where i live about 40 of those lbs. would be water.
the southwest has some water but not much

p.s. and not all of it is drinkable

Dan22 · 12-08-2007, 02:16 PM

Billy,

All you need is a long piece of sharpened pipe with a faucet on one end so you can jab it into a cactus. LOL.

That's exactly what I mean about different needs for different locations.

Wonder where the perfect location would be in the US for long-term survival...or is that another thread?

billy · 12-08-2007, 03:37 PM

lets see.........
1 pair of clean socks and water.
thats all i can carry.
packs full!

makin it in the desert would be really tough.
especially if someone was looking for you .
if they had a very rough idea of what area you were in they could just hang out at the water sources and wait for you.
grim huh?

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HEMI · 12-09-2007, 12:54 AM

1 of the Olsen twins

swabjocky · 12-09-2007, 02:57 AM

Is that just the pack or total load out?

teenagegunwacho · 01-02-2008, 10:32 AM

22 savage with impromtu sling,3006 bdl 700 over shoulder ,3030 mod 94,2 large fixed blade knifes,canteen,axe,at least 2 means of starting a fire,sleeping bag or wool blanket, Bible, the rest would be porkandbeans and ammo

Dan22 · 01-02-2008, 06:06 PM

Swabjockey,

I would say limit the bag to 50lbs or so to make it easy to carry for some distance. You can carry as much stuff hanging off your body that you think you can comfortably handle.

The main point of this excercise was to set a reasonable limit so you could cover some distance without being totally worn out.

In some country even 50 lbs could wear you down quickly.

KGunner · 01-03-2008, 12:45 AM

It depends on what type of situation. If it was a longterm situation I would pack differently than say a short term one or one where I HAD to get somewhere fast.

Long term I'd pack lots of ammo, some snare line, sewing supplies, and clothing and bed gear, very little if any food.

And my opinion is that the Rockies would be the easiest to survive in the summer months, winter months forget it, I'd rather be in the Southwest then.

The setting would also change how I packed. If I were stuck in the mountains I would pack wet/cold gear. In a dessert I'd pack light clothing and little bed gear.

Short term I'd pack less ammo, no snare line, light sewing supplies, little clothing, same bed gear if not less, and much more food.

11-22-2007, 10:28 AM	#1
Dan22 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 396	You can pack 50lbs of stuff. What do you take? I like the thread with 20 items but some items are very light so I would rather set a weight limit. My rifle could be carried with a sling so I will not consider that part of the bag contents. Just weighed a 500 round brick of Winchester Super-X .22 ammo and it came in at 3lbs-14Oz. My multi-gadget pocket knife weighs 3.4 Oz and a pair of magnifier glasses weighs in at .07oz. It would be hard to estimate weights of some items so just wing it. I would also include a few small ziploc bags to keep stuff dry.

11-22-2007, 01:33 PM	#3
damage855 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina / Lake Norman Posts: 931 Blog Entries: 1	I have wieghed my camping backpack loaded in at 54lbs. so if i can scrape by with the extra 4lbs Ill take it. it usally has glock .40 with 50rds ammo. glock folding shovel and feild knife. military stlye jungle hamock MRE's or other freeze dried foods water pump/filter compass maps handheld CB radio with the weather band mesh kit ect. thats the majority of the goodies there are a few more like toliet paper but those thing go without mention. __________________ If total goverment control will make us all safer, then why are prisons so dangerous?

11-22-2007, 04:59 PM	#4
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,358 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	the 1st thing i would do is dump about 25lbs. of crap out of my pack __________________

11-23-2007, 07:22 AM	#6
damage855 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina / Lake Norman Posts: 931 Blog Entries: 1	Dan22 sounds like fun where do I sign up! __________________ If total goverment control will make us all safer, then why are prisons so dangerous?

12-07-2007, 04:42 AM	#9
aris_unlimited Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Payson, UT Posts: 82	Well most likely I would be taking my wife with me (pack mule ) lol. So figuring in with her I could Probably get about 80lbs of stuff out. I would take all my .308, .22, and .40 ammo. We would both have a sidearm (.40 cal) I would carry the .308 and she could carry the .22. I would have water purification tablets. Dehydrated food (dehydrating food makes it so much lighter and you can do it with so much food) we also have hiking tents which are pretty light weight. Eating utensils.Toiletries. And extra underwear and socks. Extra outerwear would be optional. Flashlights. Extra batteries. And 2 hunting knives (1 apiece). .........now going over my list I wonder if I could get that all in 80lbs lol. I will have to assemble it all and weigh it. Will keep you guys updated lol. __________________ "Strength is not in numbers, it's in singular determination." Life Member NRA Life Member NAHC Last edited by aris_unlimited; 12-07-2007 at 08:23 AM.

11-22-2007, 11:48 AM	#2
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931	Snacks, tent, ammo, magazines(books).

11-22-2007, 09:02 PM	#5
Dan22 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 396	Damage, 54lbs would be fine. I'm just looking for a number the average guy could lug around without wearing himself out. A big young athletic guy could carry more stuff with less effort than some of us older guys who may even weigh a little more than we should. Almost anyone should be able to carry 50lbs in a do or die situation. You have nothing but time so frequent breaks shouldn't be a problem. Come to think of it, with all these reality shows on TV, they should get a bunch of people with their survival packs and drop them off in a remote area and tell them to get to a certain point by a specific date. GPS locaters could make sure they don't get too lost. My rule would be that all contestants had to pack their own bag with no more than 50 lbs of equipment of their own choice. Could be very revealing in the end.

11-28-2007, 02:46 PM	#8
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 2,183	Good idea about 50 LB instead of 20 things. However I was meaning on a limited amout of items. like if you had to leave today!

12-08-2007, 02:17 AM	#10
fullMetalJack Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 119	well i recently made a shtf bag. although i have not weighed it , i estimate it in between 50 and 60 pounds. if it really came down to it i believe i could haul as much as a hundred pounds with my kelty bag with ease.but i would like to be light and agile. i dont include my rifle because it wound be in my hand in a shtf situation.(henry ar-7 survival 22) fishing line and hooks Kabar usmc knife gerber poly hatchet water pump filter flint stone kelty sleeping bag m48 flashlight (extra batteries) wool socks gloves beanie poncho etrex gps(extra batteries) brick of ammo small bottle of vodka(flask size) 10 gel packets (rations) nalgene bottle (empty) pup tent 130 feet of small rope three hefty bags(for body heat containment) box of matches trick birthday candles(the ones that reignite),"it was a theory i thought up in a situation with wind and a need of fire, what better than a reigniting candle" crank up radio/flashlight burris binoculars a can of snuff(bad habit) *first aid kit and my loaded s&w 40 on my thigh.(two extra mags) pack tight and water proof self efficiency is key with food sources in this type of situation. its always good to have a general idea of a plan in this situation. locations where resources for your stronghold are abundant is your best bet of survival. in this situation i believe I would have more than a 50 pound pack if available but you never know if you'll have enough time so its good to have a bug out bag on the ready. happy hunting gents

12-08-2007, 06:41 AM	#11
Dan22 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 396	FMJ, 50 lbs is just a number. If anyone thinks they can lug more than 50 lbs with no problem, go for it. If it is hot, it gets more tiring than comfortable temperatures. A lot depends on your climate, ambient temperature range, humidity, and terrain. What you might need in the Rockies would be quite different from the east. The southwest would be pretty hot for most and Florida would be very uncomfortable in the summer. Winter in Florida would be a much lower humidity situation. Some areas have bad mosquitos so a big piece of screen would help for sleeping. This was just an excercise to make us think about what we really need to stay alive and fairly comfortable but still be able to lift it.

12-08-2007, 08:08 AM	#12
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,358 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	where i live about 40 of those lbs. would be water. the southwest has some water but not much p.s. and not all of it is drinkable __________________ Last edited by billy; 12-08-2007 at 08:09 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

12-08-2007, 02:16 PM	#13
Dan22 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 396	Billy, All you need is a long piece of sharpened pipe with a faucet on one end so you can jab it into a cactus. LOL. That's exactly what I mean about different needs for different locations. Wonder where the perfect location would be in the US for long-term survival...or is that another thread?

12-08-2007, 03:37 PM	#14
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,358 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	lets see......... 1 pair of clean socks and water. thats all i can carry. packs full! makin it in the desert would be really tough. especially if someone was looking for you . if they had a very rough idea of what area you were in they could just hang out at the water sources and wait for you. grim huh? __________________ Last edited by billy; 12-08-2007 at 03:39 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

12-08-2007, 04:02 PM	#15
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 2,072	Billy, Here's a way for locating where you're (we're) at... This aerial drone technology is being tested by LEO in Miami-Dade, Florida and Houston, Texas for civilian applications: High-Tech Drones Joining Miami Police Force - Miami News Story - WPLG Miami Red Pills » Houston Police Department tests spy drone while denying spy program underway Sacramento, California police department is also pursuing the same high-tech equipment for their LEOs to use: News - Police seek a new eye in the sky - sacbee.com Maybe some CCD will help prevent you from being located, if the need be? __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown Last edited by LiveToShoot; 12-08-2007 at 04:09 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

12-09-2007, 12:54 AM	#16
HEMI Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 728	1 of the Olsen twins

12-09-2007, 02:57 AM	#17
swabjocky Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 59	Is that just the pack or total load out?

01-02-2008, 10:32 AM	#18
teenagegunwacho Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The South Posts: 123	22 savage with impromtu sling,3006 bdl 700 over shoulder ,3030 mod 94,2 large fixed blade knifes,canteen,axe,at least 2 means of starting a fire,sleeping bag or wool blanket, Bible, the rest would be porkandbeans and ammo

01-02-2008, 06:06 PM	#19
Dan22 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 396	Swabjockey, I would say limit the bag to 50lbs or so to make it easy to carry for some distance. You can carry as much stuff hanging off your body that you think you can comfortably handle. The main point of this excercise was to set a reasonable limit so you could cover some distance without being totally worn out. In some country even 50 lbs could wear you down quickly.

01-03-2008, 12:45 AM	#20
KGunner Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 442	It depends on what type of situation. If it was a longterm situation I would pack differently than say a short term one or one where I HAD to get somewhere fast. Long term I'd pack lots of ammo, some snare line, sewing supplies, and clothing and bed gear, very little if any food. And my opinion is that the Rockies would be the easiest to survive in the summer months, winter months forget it, I'd rather be in the Southwest then. The setting would also change how I packed. If I were stuck in the mountains I would pack wet/cold gear. In a dessert I'd pack light clothing and little bed gear. Short term I'd pack less ammo, no snare line, light sewing supplies, little clothing, same bed gear if not less, and much more food.