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cruizer · 11-14-2007, 12:58 PM

I have been tossing the idea around about getting a ML. I haven't done much research at all about it yet so I thought I'd ask your opinions about what to look for in a good starter ML. I have rifles and shotguns but no ML yet.

rckymtnboy · 11-14-2007, 01:14 PM

It really depends on your state laws. Here in Montana, and Idaho you cannot hunt with a ML that doesn't have an exposed nipple. (if hunting is what you intend to use it for) I love my Thompson Hawkens .50, and they're not too expensive. If you can hunt with an in-line, then the Thompson Encore would be a better choice. Here's a good starting point, maybe you can narrow it down to the gun that fits you best using this ML rifle review: In-line Muzzleloading Rifle Guide

cruizer · 11-14-2007, 02:35 PM

This is the only regulations I can find on Ohio Department of Natural Resources web site.

"During the statewide muzzleloader season and youth deer gun season it is unlawful to hunt legal game with shot shells containing shot larger than #4. Waterfowl hunters must use nontoxic shot of any size."

I couldn't find anything about specs for the ML you're using while hunting. Does anyone know where to find out?

two-70 · 11-14-2007, 07:20 PM

i use a CVA Kodiak Mag and it is an awesome shooting gun, with 90 grains of loose triple 7 powder and a 295 grain power belt hollow point it will shoot hole in hole at 50 yards, have managed to take 2 der so far with it, it is the black synthetic stock with nickle barrel, can be had at walmart for 170.00, excellent gun

Paper · 11-15-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cruizer

Does anyone know where to find out?

It's more than likely in your actual deer hunting regs. Go hit a Walmart sporting goods area for a copy of the regs, or email the DNR with your question.

As far as using one?? I'm a guy who likes to place a single shot well, rather than spray bullets, so yeah, I like muzzleloaders.

My deer hunting rifle is a .45 CVA Magbolt 150 in nickel/camo with an old 3x Weaver post and crosshair scope..

I've taken 3 deer with it and it's alway on the money as far as sighting in.. I shoot 100 grains of Pyrodex pellets and a 195 Powerbelt bullet.. At 100 yards, it's a tack driver.

snuffysmith · 11-15-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rckymtnboy

It really depends on your state laws. Here in Montana, and Idaho you cannot hunt with a ML that doesn't have an exposed nipple. (if hunting is what you intend to use it for) I love my Thompson Hawkens .50, and they're not too expensive. If you can hunt with an in-line, then the Thompson Encore would be a better choice. Here's a good starting point, maybe you can narrow it down to the gun that fits you best using this ML rifle review: In-line Muzzleloading Rifle Guide

Must be a lot of frostbite in Montana!!LOL
Sorry, sorry, I just couldn't resist, I repent honest.

Snuffy

Arkiemike · 11-21-2007, 08:17 PM

Snuffy, us Arkansans must think alike! I don't want to hunt with MY nipple exposed, either!

ArkansasHunter · 11-21-2007, 08:23 PM

We Arkies are all a like were all cuzzin's !!! LOL...A.H

PelletHead · 11-25-2007, 06:40 AM

cruizer,
First you have to decide on why you want to have a ml. If it's just to get another tag to shoot a deer any type of ml will do. But if you want to have the experience of hunting with a traditional long gun like our fore fathers did go for a flintlock or caplock long gun. There is something very special about hunting with a primative weapon that looks and shoots like our ancestors. Either way ml shooting is alot of fun.

blaster · 11-25-2007, 07:21 AM

I agree with Pellethead. I have and love both types. Inlines are just about like shooting a modern cartrige gun (except for loading) Why dont they just have a single shot season? although I use my CVA Kodiack Mag. to hunt with mostly, its far from a primitive weapon. after about 40 years of bow hunting I finally started shooting with a release so I guess I'm whats primitive. If they had a ball peen hammer season, I'd have a closet full of new hammers.

andrew cochran · 11-29-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

We Arkies are all a like were all cuzzin's !!! LOL...A.H

We sure are! Use a Traditions tracker muzzle loader.
I love it. Uses 209 ignition.

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Originally Posted by Arkiemike

Snuffy, us Arkansans must think alike! I don't want to hunt with MY nipple exposed, either!

Me neither! LOL

cruizer · 11-30-2007, 07:28 PM

I never really thought hunting with a, "Primative Weapon", would ever appeal to me. Then I got a bow, and I have to say I think I've lost my will to shoot something with my shotgun, but would rather shoot something with my bow. Not to say I wouldn't be all for shooting something at long range with a ML either. I think it's the challenge that I'm after more than anything. I don't see much point in shooting a deer 40 yards away with a shotgun unless I were starving. But to shoot a deer at 40 yards with a bow would be amazing. So maybe the same applies with a ML at 100+ yards. Either way I just like to be challenged and not just handed something.

whirlwind · 12-03-2007, 02:05 AM

i just got a traditions pursuit pro in 50 cal and it is an amazing piece! i been shooting 100gr's of triple seven with some 45cal sabots that are 300gr's and man i love the thing. their claims for accuracy out to 200yrds are no joke!

nathangdad · 12-03-2007, 07:50 AM

It is time consuming to load a muzzle loader and it is time consuming to clean it (especially if you fire black powder).

Unless you have a great hunting opportunity or you want to get into the mountain man thing all I can say is I tried it and found I did not really enjoy it.

chrish · 12-07-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by whirlwind

i just got a traditions pursuit pro in 50 cal and it is an amazing piece! i been shooting 100gr's of triple seven with some 45cal sabots that are 300gr's and man i love the thing. their claims for accuracy out to 200yrds are no joke!

I'm with you on that one, i have the traditions pursuit XLT w/thumbhole 50 cal, and its a gosh darn tack driver to say the least, i love the rifle.

11-14-2007, 12:58 PM	#1
cruizer Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 38 Trader Rating: (0)	Suggestions I have been tossing the idea around about getting a ML. I haven't done much research at all about it yet so I thought I'd ask your opinions about what to look for in a good starter ML. I have rifles and shotguns but no ML yet. __________________ They won't see or hear me until it's to late.

11-14-2007, 01:14 PM	#2
rckymtnboy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I am a dual resident. Posts: 340 Trader Rating: (0)	It really depends on your state laws. Here in Montana, and Idaho you cannot hunt with a ML that doesn't have an exposed nipple. (if hunting is what you intend to use it for) I love my Thompson Hawkens .50, and they're not too expensive. If you can hunt with an in-line, then the Thompson Encore would be a better choice. Here's a good starting point, maybe you can narrow it down to the gun that fits you best using this ML rifle review: In-line Muzzleloading Rifle Guide __________________ When they come for my guns, I'll give 'em the bullets first!

11-14-2007, 02:35 PM	#3
cruizer Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 38 Trader Rating: (0)	This is the only regulations I can find on Ohio Department of Natural Resources web site. "During the statewide muzzleloader season and youth deer gun season it is unlawful to hunt legal game with shot shells containing shot larger than #4. Waterfowl hunters must use nontoxic shot of any size." I couldn't find anything about specs for the ML you're using while hunting. Does anyone know where to find out? __________________ They won't see or hear me until it's to late.

11-25-2007, 07:21 AM	#10
blaster Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: big pine key, florida Posts: 400 Trader Rating: (0)	I agree with Pellethead. I have and love both types. Inlines are just about like shooting a modern cartrige gun (except for loading) Why dont they just have a single shot season? although I use my CVA Kodiack Mag. to hunt with mostly, its far from a primitive weapon. after about 40 years of bow hunting I finally started shooting with a release so I guess I'm whats primitive. If they had a ball peen hammer season, I'd have a closet full of new hammers. __________________ peace through superior firepower

11-30-2007, 07:28 PM	#12
cruizer Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 38 Trader Rating: (0)	I never really thought hunting with a, "Primative Weapon", would ever appeal to me. Then I got a bow, and I have to say I think I've lost my will to shoot something with my shotgun, but would rather shoot something with my bow. Not to say I wouldn't be all for shooting something at long range with a ML either. I think it's the challenge that I'm after more than anything. I don't see much point in shooting a deer 40 yards away with a shotgun unless I were starving. But to shoot a deer at 40 yards with a bow would be amazing. So maybe the same applies with a ML at 100+ yards. Either way I just like to be challenged and not just handed something. __________________ They won't see or hear me until it's to late.

11-14-2007, 07:20 PM	#4
two-70 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ponca city, oklahoma Posts: 1,778 Trader Rating: (0)	i use a CVA Kodiak Mag and it is an awesome shooting gun, with 90 grains of loose triple 7 powder and a 295 grain power belt hollow point it will shoot hole in hole at 50 yards, have managed to take 2 der so far with it, it is the black synthetic stock with nickle barrel, can be had at walmart for 170.00, excellent gun __________________ What Would Jesus Do ????? Just Ask Him.

11-21-2007, 08:17 PM	#7
Arkiemike Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SW Arkansas Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (0)	Snuffy, us Arkansans must think alike! I don't want to hunt with MY nipple exposed, either!

11-21-2007, 08:23 PM	#8
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,514 Trader Rating: (0)	We Arkies are all a like were all cuzzin's !!! LOL...A.H

11-25-2007, 06:40 AM	#9
PelletHead Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	cruizer, First you have to decide on why you want to have a ml. If it's just to get another tag to shoot a deer any type of ml will do. But if you want to have the experience of hunting with a traditional long gun like our fore fathers did go for a flintlock or caplock long gun. There is something very special about hunting with a primative weapon that looks and shoots like our ancestors. Either way ml shooting is alot of fun.

12-03-2007, 02:05 AM	#13
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,730 Trader Rating: (0)	i just got a traditions pursuit pro in 50 cal and it is an amazing piece! i been shooting 100gr's of triple seven with some 45cal sabots that are 300gr's and man i love the thing. their claims for accuracy out to 200yrds are no joke! __________________ De oppresso liber !

12-03-2007, 07:50 AM	#14
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,255 Trader Rating: (0)	Think about time and expense It is time consuming to load a muzzle loader and it is time consuming to clean it (especially if you fire black powder). Unless you have a great hunting opportunity or you want to get into the mountain man thing all I can say is I tried it and found I did not really enjoy it.