CC at the office; What do you tell a person who

CrazyIvan · 11-20-2007, 01:23 PM

says "Is that a knife?" ??

I have a Kel-Tec P3-AT with the pocket clip I carry with me. The pocket clip hangs out of my pocket and appears to be a typical pocket knife. This guy at work asks me what it is and if he can see it...

I don't fancy having everyone know what I have in my pocket. I guess I could just put it all the way in my pocket when I'm at work, but...hard to access that way.

What do you tell these people? For now I abruptly change the subject and avoid a response. But, that could be confused as hostility.

SilverRun · 11-20-2007, 02:06 PM

Depends upon where you work and who you work with. I think the knife story would work for most. If someone knew enough to know the difference, they probably wouldn't care.

CrazyIvan · 11-20-2007, 02:15 PM

Yea but if you tell em it is a knife then they want to see it...lol, kinda hard to do that...

BattleRifleG3 · 11-20-2007, 04:05 PM

Just tell him you don't trust him with a knife, knives are dangerous, in a light hearted manner.

gunney_m · 11-20-2007, 04:56 PM

Same here.

just_a_car · 11-20-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

Just tell him you don't trust him with a knife, knives are dangerous, in a light hearted manner.

+1.

Most "gentlemen" respect the fact that a man doesn't want to hand around his blade. Sometimes you develope a relationship with it much like with a rifle, due to the many experiences and trials you've been through together.

If they can't respect that, they don't deserve your respect as a 'gentleman'.

gunney_m · 11-20-2007, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by just_a_car

+1.

Most "gentlemen" respect the fact that a man doesn't want to hand around his blade. Sometimes you develope a relationship with it much like with a rifle, due to the many experiences and trials you've been through together.

If they can't respect that, they don't deserve your respect as a 'gentleman'.

You put it well.

Windwalker · 11-20-2007, 05:43 PM

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

K75RT · 11-20-2007, 05:49 PM

In some states and in my state a firearm carried concealed has to stay concealed so as not to cause concern. I know people who have had their CCW permit revoked when someone saw a "concealed" firearm. When I work at the hardware store I always carry. The arm is easily accessible but no one can tell from a glance.

gunney_m · 11-20-2007, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K75RT

In some states and in my state a firearm carried concealed has to stay concealed so as not to cause concern. I know people who have had their CCW permit revoked when someone saw a "concealed" firearm. When I work at the hardware store I always carry. The arm is easily accessible but no one can tell from a glance.

That's the best way, personally when I get my CCW im going to use a shoulder rig.

Big Dog · 11-20-2007, 06:59 PM

Sadly, weapons are strictly verboten in my State office building. Even if I had a CCW, I couldn't carry at the office without risking being fired.

I did have a reputation for awhile for carrying a 'sword' - my 4" Buck knife. Our department head always laughed when I whipped it out for cutting something.
So now I carry a more "Sheeple-friendly" Remington knife in a belt pouch.

Don't wanna spook the herd.

They keep asking if it's the new 'ultra-small cell phone'.

CrazyIvan · 11-20-2007, 08:43 PM

Well, luckily our building/company does not have anything regarding weapons or firearms in the employee manual. If they ask me about it, I am affraid they might fire me, but I have no doubt I could talk them into allowing me to have it with me or at least just saying: "Well leave it in your car from now on."

ArkansasHunter · 11-20-2007, 08:54 PM

CI Uncle Mike's makes a billfold holster for the KelTec 32 auto and the like and maybe one for yours or maybe the one I bought will fit yours.
You might get in trouble and loose your job, so look into the super concealable holster...It's cost 8 to 10 bucks and very high quality...A.H

NRAJOE · 11-20-2007, 09:32 PM

Tell him you don't let people handle your knife but tell him its a Benchmade Griptilian or whatever...

DWARREN123 · 11-22-2007, 11:02 AM

No, it is a key holder.

Chris · 11-22-2007, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NRAJOE

Tell him you don't let people handle your knife but tell him its a Benchmade Griptilian or whatever...

I agree with that Joe said.

gunney_m · 11-22-2007, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NRAJOE

Tell him you don't let people handle your knife but tell him its a Benchmade Griptilian or whatever...

Give him some company law bullshit, maybe it would work?

2b41 · 12-04-2007, 10:43 AM

Just an idea...one day, switch carry positions of the kel-tec, and carry an actual knife in its place. When you see the guy, offer to show it to him. That way, he is pacified, and you can go back to carrying normally.

CrazyIvan · 12-04-2007, 10:50 AM

Update:

Friday, I found out this moron spread the word around the office. Most of the folks here are tree-hugging Boulderites (Boulder, CO) who are outdoor sportsman transplants (snowboarders, skiers, byciclists, hikers, etc...) from places like Cali, Minnesota, Michigan... So, now I am the office freak with a gun. HAH. Oh well, at least everyone is nice to me and doesn't want to piss me off.

There is no existing office policy by word of mouth nor in the employee handbook keeping anyone from legally possessing a weapon on office property.

I wrote a letter to the president (who is also a lefty Boulderite) before it got to his desk by word of rumor. Our company is fairly small, only about 30 employees. I explained my situation and legality. Also, the fact that in the office I keep it unchambered and that it is safer in my posession than leaving it in my car, desk or coat. I don't care what the other folks think. After explaining to the boss how I was in California one time for training by a different company and a man came into an office on the floor below where I was and shot his ex-wife, I am sure he appreciates my position and ability to intervene in such a situation before it is simply a fact of the cops showing up and counting corpses. I did tell him that I would leave it unloaded in my vehicle during office hours if he wishes me to, but asked to think about it thoroughly before banishing any weapons being brought into the office and perhaps leaving us defenseless against a rogue UPS driver, ex-employee, disgruntled employee or some upset personal relation to any existing employee.

It is my understanding that the person who spread this around is going to get a sharp talking-to today; well deserved in my opinion.
_______________

As far as "getting talked to," I was told I am fine by management, and the person who will be getting a talking to is he who put his nose in my business then spread fear around the office.

It may or may not spawn a new no-weapon policy, but I can't really help that...it is not my company.

I agree I probably didn't handle it correctly. As far as concealment, it was fine. He thought it was a knife. I should have told him, Yea, it is a knife, now F*#K off! I messed up and told him what it was. Oh well. Live and learn, right? And that is one of the reasons I made this thread...not only to learn for myself, but perhaps keep someone else from making the same mistake.

tinnman357 · 12-04-2007, 04:01 PM

Hope your able to continue to carry Ivan, I had a conversation about carrying while at work with my boss. He said with a smile "cool that makes two of us".

11-20-2007, 01:23 PM	#1
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,358	CC at the office; What do you tell a person who says "Is that a knife?" ?? I have a Kel-Tec P3-AT with the pocket clip I carry with me. The pocket clip hangs out of my pocket and appears to be a typical pocket knife. This guy at work asks me what it is and if he can see it... I don't fancy having everyone know what I have in my pocket. I guess I could just put it all the way in my pocket when I'm at work, but...hard to access that way. What do you tell these people? For now I abruptly change the subject and avoid a response. But, that could be confused as hostility. __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me

11-20-2007, 02:15 PM	#3
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,358	Yea but if you tell em it is a knife then they want to see it...lol, kinda hard to do that... __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me

11-20-2007, 04:05 PM	#4
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Just tell him you don't trust him with a knife, knives are dangerous, in a light hearted manner. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-20-2007, 06:59 PM	#11
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,214	Sadly, weapons are strictly verboten in my State office building. Even if I had a CCW, I couldn't carry at the office without risking being fired. I did have a reputation for awhile for carrying a 'sword' - my 4" Buck knife. Our department head always laughed when I whipped it out for cutting something. So now I carry a more "Sheeple-friendly" Remington knife in a belt pouch. Don't wanna spook the herd. They keep asking if it's the new 'ultra-small cell phone'. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

11-20-2007, 08:43 PM	#12
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,358	Well, luckily our building/company does not have anything regarding weapons or firearms in the employee manual. If they ask me about it, I am affraid they might fire me, but I have no doubt I could talk them into allowing me to have it with me or at least just saying: "Well leave it in your car from now on." __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me

11-20-2007, 02:06 PM	#2
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,661	Depends upon where you work and who you work with. I think the knife story would work for most. If someone knew enough to know the difference, they probably wouldn't care.

11-20-2007, 04:56 PM	#5
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931	Same here.

11-20-2007, 05:43 PM	#8
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,580	Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

11-20-2007, 05:49 PM	#9
K75RT Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 328	In some states and in my state a firearm carried concealed has to stay concealed so as not to cause concern. I know people who have had their CCW permit revoked when someone saw a "concealed" firearm. When I work at the hardware store I always carry. The arm is easily accessible but no one can tell from a glance.

11-20-2007, 08:54 PM	#13
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,694	CI Uncle Mike's makes a billfold holster for the KelTec 32 auto and the like and maybe one for yours or maybe the one I bought will fit yours. You might get in trouble and loose your job, so look into the super concealable holster...It's cost 8 to 10 bucks and very high quality...A.H

11-20-2007, 09:32 PM	#14
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Tell him you don't let people handle your knife but tell him its a Benchmade Griptilian or whatever... __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

11-22-2007, 11:02 AM	#15
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 774	No, it is a key holder. __________________ Have a nice day!

12-04-2007, 10:43 AM	#18
2b41 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16	Just an idea...one day, switch carry positions of the kel-tec, and carry an actual knife in its place. When you see the guy, offer to show it to him. That way, he is pacified, and you can go back to carrying normally.

12-04-2007, 10:50 AM	#19
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,358	Update: Friday, I found out this moron spread the word around the office. Most of the folks here are tree-hugging Boulderites (Boulder, CO) who are outdoor sportsman transplants (snowboarders, skiers, byciclists, hikers, etc...) from places like Cali, Minnesota, Michigan... So, now I am the office freak with a gun. HAH. Oh well, at least everyone is nice to me and doesn't want to piss me off. There is no existing office policy by word of mouth nor in the employee handbook keeping anyone from legally possessing a weapon on office property. I wrote a letter to the president (who is also a lefty Boulderite) before it got to his desk by word of rumor. Our company is fairly small, only about 30 employees. I explained my situation and legality. Also, the fact that in the office I keep it unchambered and that it is safer in my posession than leaving it in my car, desk or coat. I don't care what the other folks think. After explaining to the boss how I was in California one time for training by a different company and a man came into an office on the floor below where I was and shot his ex-wife, I am sure he appreciates my position and ability to intervene in such a situation before it is simply a fact of the cops showing up and counting corpses. I did tell him that I would leave it unloaded in my vehicle during office hours if he wishes me to, but asked to think about it thoroughly before banishing any weapons being brought into the office and perhaps leaving us defenseless against a rogue UPS driver, ex-employee, disgruntled employee or some upset personal relation to any existing employee. It is my understanding that the person who spread this around is going to get a sharp talking-to today; well deserved in my opinion. _______________ As far as "getting talked to," I was told I am fine by management, and the person who will be getting a talking to is he who put his nose in my business then spread fear around the office. It may or may not spawn a new no-weapon policy, but I can't really help that...it is not my company. I agree I probably didn't handle it correctly. As far as concealment, it was fine. He thought it was a knife. I should have told him, Yea, it is a knife, now F*#K off! I messed up and told him what it was. Oh well. Live and learn, right? And that is one of the reasons I made this thread...not only to learn for myself, but perhaps keep someone else from making the same mistake. __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me

12-04-2007, 04:01 PM	#20
tinnman357 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SW Florida Posts: 38 Images: 3	Hope your able to continue to carry Ivan, I had a conversation about carrying while at work with my boss. He said with a smile "cool that makes two of us".