Pre 64 vs post 64 model 70

WMBIGS · 12-05-2007, 08:47 PM

Hi all, I know the pre 64's are more coveted but why is that. In my quest for an elk gun, I've come across a Model 70 in 300wm. What is the difference and is it easy to tell the two apart?

It also has a Redding 6x scope. How are these? I do want a single power, so this whole setup is tempting.

Thanks for the help, MikeB

lefty o · 12-05-2007, 10:48 PM

the last winchester model 70's, and the "pre 64's" were both good rifles. in my own opinion, buying an older gun is possibly buying someone elses problem. why are they selling it, and how many rounds have been fired through it, and how well was it cared for?
basically, some people idolize the older gun because of what it was, and cant open their eyes to what the new guns are. if you stay away from ones made from 64 to 75 they are all good quality.

nathangdad · 12-05-2007, 10:54 PM

The coveted pre-64's were machined by a human being. In the transition away from human machining some of the 64's were of poor quality.
Later Winchester ratcheted up the production quality.

Note

Mooseman684 · 12-05-2007, 11:19 PM

To answer your Question, The pre-64 Winchester model 70 has A Long, Mauser style Extractor on the right side of the bolt.Visible when the bolt is Closed .The post 64 has a small extractor in the end of the bolt Lug. NOT visible when the bolt is closed
This is the easiest way to tell a pre- from a post 64, however, the Newer "Classic" series went back to the Long Extractor and Controlled feeding.
I hunt with a Post-64.300 WM...The Pre-64 stays put away only because I found a .300 win Mag that was Un-Fired, making it very valuable .
Rich

WMBIGS · 12-06-2007, 08:43 PM

Thanks everyone, I am going to get this one. It is supposed to be a late 70's - early 80's. If it is, I'll plunk the money down.
MikeB

Mooseman684 · 12-06-2007, 08:46 PM

How much are they asking ???

WMBIGS · 12-06-2007, 09:02 PM

$435.00
What 180 grain bullet would you recommend?

Mooseman684 · 12-06-2007, 09:18 PM

That's not a bad price at all...I use180 gr. Nosler Partition or Remington Core-lokts for most animal Applications !
Rich

lefty o · 12-06-2007, 11:58 PM

assuming its in good condition, thats a fair price.

g perkins · 12-09-2007, 05:13 PM

HI. I,m a new guy.Just purchased 8 firearms from a man in need; one turned out to be winchester 94 wrangler 81-82 year.The rifle cleaned up for a 'GOOD'

12-05-2007, 08:47 PM	#1
WMBIGS Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21	Pre 64 vs post 64 model 70 Hi all, I know the pre 64's are more coveted but why is that. In my quest for an elk gun, I've come across a Model 70 in 300wm. What is the difference and is it easy to tell the two apart? It also has a Redding 6x scope. How are these? I do want a single power, so this whole setup is tempting. Thanks for the help, MikeB

12-05-2007, 10:54 PM	#3
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,475	Earlier Winchester rifles The coveted pre-64's were machined by a human being. In the transition away from human machining some of the 64's were of poor quality. Later Winchester ratcheted up the production quality. Note

12-05-2007, 11:19 PM	#4
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,671 Images: 2	To answer your Question, The pre-64 Winchester model 70 has A Long, Mauser style Extractor on the right side of the bolt.Visible when the bolt is Closed .The post 64 has a small extractor in the end of the bolt Lug. NOT visible when the bolt is closed This is the easiest way to tell a pre- from a post 64, however, the Newer "Classic" series went back to the Long Extractor and Controlled feeding. I hunt with a Post-64.300 WM...The Pre-64 stays put away only because I found a .300 win Mag that was Un-Fired, making it very valuable . Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

12-06-2007, 08:46 PM	#6
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,671 Images: 2	How much are they asking ??? __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

12-06-2007, 09:18 PM	#8
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,671 Images: 2	That's not a bad price at all...I use180 gr. Nosler Partition or Remington Core-lokts for most animal Applications ! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

12-05-2007, 10:48 PM	#2
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,806	the last winchester model 70's, and the "pre 64's" were both good rifles. in my own opinion, buying an older gun is possibly buying someone elses problem. why are they selling it, and how many rounds have been fired through it, and how well was it cared for? basically, some people idolize the older gun because of what it was, and cant open their eyes to what the new guns are. if you stay away from ones made from 64 to 75 they are all good quality.

12-06-2007, 08:43 PM	#5
WMBIGS Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21	Thanks everyone, I am going to get this one. It is supposed to be a late 70's - early 80's. If it is, I'll plunk the money down. MikeB

12-06-2007, 09:02 PM	#7
WMBIGS Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21	$435.00 What 180 grain bullet would you recommend?

12-06-2007, 11:58 PM	#9
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,806	assuming its in good condition, thats a fair price.

12-09-2007, 05:13 PM	#10
g perkins Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: GREENWOOD SC Posts: 1	HI. I,m a new guy.Just purchased 8 firearms from a man in need; one turned out to be winchester 94 wrangler 81-82 year.The rifle cleaned up for a 'GOOD'