10/22 Vs 17HMR

Lepa4013 · 12-19-2007, 07:23 PM

Alright I've been lookin around at aftermarket parts for my 10/22 Ruger and theres a few appealing things I'd like. My question is accuracy wise which is better? A Savage93 17HMR or a Ruger 10/22? Lately I haven't been too happy with the accuracy on my ruger. I'm big on accuracy I love one shot kills. My other plinking/small game gun I use is a RWS model 48 pellet gun and it shoots pretty accurate in my opinion, obviously not a match pellet gun but gets the job done with power. Anyway would I be wasting my time by putting money towards the 10/22 like a new trigger/hammer/sear kit, barrel, stock etc... just to still have not so good accuracy?

P.S. - my first post lol.

webs · 12-19-2007, 08:18 PM

Welcome to the board Lepa4013.The Savage 93 in .17HMR would be my choice for accuracy, simply because it shoots faster,has a flatter trajectory,and can be shot accurately farther.However it is a very hyper round for small game.

SilverRun · 12-19-2007, 08:31 PM

The Savage would definitely out-shot a factory 10/22. If you put on a new trigger, barrel and stock the 10/22 would hang pretty close out to between 50 - 100 yards (depending upon how good a barrel you put on the 10/22). Past 100 yards - it is all 17HMR. The 17 HMR is based off a 22 magnum. So, it is really not a fair contest. You are comparing apples and oranges. Be sure to price the difference in cost of ammo. To me the 17HMR is out of my price range as a fun little plinker. I would suggest both, the 10/22 is a great little fun plinker and close-up critter getter. The 17HMR would be fun for extended rimfire range (100 yards +).

Welcome to the site!

neophyte · 12-19-2007, 08:36 PM

Lepa4013: Sir; the 10-22 has a tremendous following. Not because it inaccurate. Improving any of the trigger groups will help.
My opinion: RimFireCentral is all about rimfires. The 10-22 has a special section. Spending any time at RFC and you'll see. Read and ask; my experiences with RFC has been positive.
Now the .17hmr: outstanding flat shooting; fast bullet. Historically out of the box Marlin, Savage, Ruger are top shelf. Not uncommon, less than an inch @100yds. Triggers will need addressing.
Sir; I shoot Single Action, I want a Single Six .17hmr.
At RFC I have picked up some great ideas. G&G folks are great knowledgeable folks, sir; I have extensive knowledge and experiences; in this particular case I defer. They are specialist.
Stay with Gunandgame:
Share your experiences.
For refined tuning; there is another called the 'Bullseye'. @ GunTalkOnline Ruger master with rimfires.
Depends on your particular direction.

Lepa4013 · 12-19-2007, 08:50 PM

Thanks for all the replies guys, I just haven't been very happy with my ruger 10/22 I've had it for about 3 years and kept it extremely clean and now its starting to misfire. Theres been a couple charts I was looking at and the ruger is all over the place while the 17 stays pretty flat. So right now I'm looking at $30+ just to get my 10/22 to fire again and then I'd like to pick up a new stock and barrel for it. The 93R17 -F retails right around $210-230 and a nice bull barrel for a 10/22 usually runs 120+

webs · 12-19-2007, 08:54 PM

Lepa4013 have you cosidered the .17 Mach 2? It is a .22 caliber stinger case necked down to shoot a .17 caliber 17 grain boat-tail bullet.It is much less destructive than the .17 HMR but out to 100yards allmost equal in trajectory.

SilverRun · 12-19-2007, 09:01 PM

Again, if it is a money thing. You need to look at the price of 17HMR and to a lesser degree 17 mach 2 ammo. You are looking at ~$12 a box for 17 HMR verses ~$2 or less for .22lr. I guess it all depends on your budget and how much you plan to shoot. I sold my 17HMR mainly for this reason.

Lepa4013 · 12-19-2007, 09:13 PM

Money on ammo isn't really a concern. I just started researching 17's tonight after doing a lot of price checking on 10/22 aftermarket stuff, so I haven't looked into mach 2's yet.

webs · 12-19-2007, 09:26 PM

I give $7.99 for a box of 50 .17 Mach 2 hornady V-max in my area of the midwest.I have never shot a Squirrel in my life that wasn't worth 16 cents.

bigbuddy21 · 12-19-2007, 09:35 PM

hey lepa4013, if you dont want that 10/22 i'll take it off your hands. i'll even pay all the cost to get it.

Zen900 · 12-19-2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lepa4013

Anyway would I be wasting my time by putting money towards the 10/22 like a new trigger/hammer/sear kit

Dont need the sear. Use the origonal one. You can get a34 oz trigger without buying anything else if you do a little research and find the tricks like turning around the trigger return spring and pin or trimming a couple of springs and polishing internals etc.

If you want pure accuracy get a bolt. If you want a fun project to customize in a semiauto- get a 10/22.

Lepa4013 · 12-19-2007, 10:57 PM

I don't know what went wrong but after 3 years of shooting its been doing a lot of misfires and I recently clipped a couple rings on the spring and liked the pull a lot better. So what would I have to do to get it firing again? So far I think I'm going to end up with a nice savage not sure which model I want yet but the BTVS is looking nice. I was looking at the Tapco M4 stock for my 10/22 before it started misfiring on me cause its adjustable and light weight with a lot of good reviews to make it a fun plinker I just want a gun with a lil bit more accuracy for hunting and target shooting to match my model 48 pellet gun.

rckymtnboy · 12-19-2007, 11:02 PM

Lepa, You'll love the .17HMR. I sure have a lot of fun with it. Far more accurate than a .22, no comparison at all in my opinion. I have a 10/22 and a pair of .17's. One is a Savage and the other a Ruger M77. The Ruger out shoots the Savage every time. The Ruger is built much better. I recommend the BSA Sweet Seventeen scope. It's calibrated specifically for the .17 round, and is very accurate in it's adjustments. Good luck, and welcome aboard!

Zen900 · 12-19-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lepa4013

I don't know what went wrong but after 3 years of shooting its been doing a lot of misfires and I recently clipped a couple rings on the spring and liked the pull a lot better.

What spring?

Sounds like your firing pin is striking the rim of the bullet too slow. Like it's gummed up or burred.

Lepa4013 · 12-20-2007, 07:52 AM

The spring that gets replaced when u buy a trigger kit that lightens the pull, I've tried a couple different solvents and lubricants in hopes of getting it cleaned out. Oh and if anyone was wondering yes it was misfiring before i clipped the spring i was just having fun to see if it actually lightened the pull or not which it did.

12-19-2007, 07:23 PM	#1
Lepa4013 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska... Posts: 112	10/22 Vs 17HMR Alright I've been lookin around at aftermarket parts for my 10/22 Ruger and theres a few appealing things I'd like. My question is accuracy wise which is better? A Savage93 17HMR or a Ruger 10/22? Lately I haven't been too happy with the accuracy on my ruger. I'm big on accuracy I love one shot kills. My other plinking/small game gun I use is a RWS model 48 pellet gun and it shoots pretty accurate in my opinion, obviously not a match pellet gun but gets the job done with power. Anyway would I be wasting my time by putting money towards the 10/22 like a new trigger/hammer/sear kit, barrel, stock etc... just to still have not so good accuracy? P.S. - my first post lol.

12-19-2007, 08:36 PM	#4
neophyte Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 3,489 Blog Entries: 2	specialist Lepa4013: Sir; the 10-22 has a tremendous following. Not because it inaccurate. Improving any of the trigger groups will help. My opinion: RimFireCentral is all about rimfires. The 10-22 has a special section. Spending any time at RFC and you'll see. Read and ask; my experiences with RFC has been positive. Now the .17hmr: outstanding flat shooting; fast bullet. Historically out of the box Marlin, Savage, Ruger are top shelf. Not uncommon, less than an inch @100yds. Triggers will need addressing. Sir; I shoot Single Action, I want a Single Six .17hmr. At RFC I have picked up some great ideas. G&G folks are great knowledgeable folks, sir; I have extensive knowledge and experiences; in this particular case I defer. They are specialist. Stay with Gunandgame: Share your experiences. For refined tuning; there is another called the 'Bullseye'. @ GunTalkOnline Ruger master with rimfires. Depends on your particular direction. __________________ Craig By the standards of most

12-19-2007, 08:54 PM	#6
webs Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 252 Images: 3	.17 Mach 2 Lepa4013 have you cosidered the .17 Mach 2? It is a .22 caliber stinger case necked down to shoot a .17 caliber 17 grain boat-tail bullet.It is much less destructive than the .17 HMR but out to 100yards allmost equal in trajectory.

12-19-2007, 09:01 PM	#7
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,661	Again, if it is a money thing. You need to look at the price of 17HMR and to a lesser degree 17 mach 2 ammo. You are looking at ~$12 a box for 17 HMR verses ~$2 or less for .22lr. I guess it all depends on your budget and how much you plan to shoot. I sold my 17HMR mainly for this reason. __________________ "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." - Alexander Hamilton

12-19-2007, 09:35 PM	#10
bigbuddy21 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: new albany in. Posts: 973 Images: 5	hey lepa4013, if you dont want that 10/22 i'll take it off your hands. i'll even pay all the cost to get it. __________________ LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!

12-19-2007, 08:18 PM	#2
webs Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 252 Images: 3	Welcome to the board Lepa4013.The Savage 93 in .17HMR would be my choice for accuracy, simply because it shoots faster,has a flatter trajectory,and can be shot accurately farther.However it is a very hyper round for small game.

12-19-2007, 08:31 PM	#3
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,661	The Savage would definitely out-shot a factory 10/22. If you put on a new trigger, barrel and stock the 10/22 would hang pretty close out to between 50 - 100 yards (depending upon how good a barrel you put on the 10/22). Past 100 yards - it is all 17HMR. The 17 HMR is based off a 22 magnum. So, it is really not a fair contest. You are comparing apples and oranges. Be sure to price the difference in cost of ammo. To me the 17HMR is out of my price range as a fun little plinker. I would suggest both, the 10/22 is a great little fun plinker and close-up critter getter. The 17HMR would be fun for extended rimfire range (100 yards +). Welcome to the site!

12-19-2007, 08:50 PM	#5
Lepa4013 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska... Posts: 112	Thanks for all the replies guys, I just haven't been very happy with my ruger 10/22 I've had it for about 3 years and kept it extremely clean and now its starting to misfire. Theres been a couple charts I was looking at and the ruger is all over the place while the 17 stays pretty flat. So right now I'm looking at $30+ just to get my 10/22 to fire again and then I'd like to pick up a new stock and barrel for it. The 93R17 -F retails right around $210-230 and a nice bull barrel for a 10/22 usually runs 120+

12-19-2007, 09:13 PM	#8
Lepa4013 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska... Posts: 112	Money on ammo isn't really a concern. I just started researching 17's tonight after doing a lot of price checking on 10/22 aftermarket stuff, so I haven't looked into mach 2's yet.

12-19-2007, 09:26 PM	#9
webs Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 252 Images: 3	I give $7.99 for a box of 50 .17 Mach 2 hornady V-max in my area of the midwest.I have never shot a Squirrel in my life that wasn't worth 16 cents.

12-19-2007, 10:57 PM	#12
Lepa4013 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska... Posts: 112	I don't know what went wrong but after 3 years of shooting its been doing a lot of misfires and I recently clipped a couple rings on the spring and liked the pull a lot better. So what would I have to do to get it firing again? So far I think I'm going to end up with a nice savage not sure which model I want yet but the BTVS is looking nice. I was looking at the Tapco M4 stock for my 10/22 before it started misfiring on me cause its adjustable and light weight with a lot of good reviews to make it a fun plinker I just want a gun with a lil bit more accuracy for hunting and target shooting to match my model 48 pellet gun.

12-19-2007, 11:02 PM	#13
rckymtnboy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I am a dual resident. Posts: 340 Images: 20	Lepa, You'll love the .17HMR. I sure have a lot of fun with it. Far more accurate than a .22, no comparison at all in my opinion. I have a 10/22 and a pair of .17's. One is a Savage and the other a Ruger M77. The Ruger out shoots the Savage every time. The Ruger is built much better. I recommend the BSA Sweet Seventeen scope. It's calibrated specifically for the .17 round, and is very accurate in it's adjustments. Good luck, and welcome aboard! __________________ When they come for my guns, I'll give 'em the bullets first!

12-20-2007, 07:52 AM	#15
Lepa4013 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska... Posts: 112	The spring that gets replaced when u buy a trigger kit that lightens the pull, I've tried a couple different solvents and lubricants in hopes of getting it cleaned out. Oh and if anyone was wondering yes it was misfiring before i clipped the spring i was just having fun to see if it actually lightened the pull or not which it did.