Question on clips

mosineer · 12-30-2007, 02:38 PM

I have a number of USGI clips for my carbine, all 15 's except for one 30. Is there a dependable after market 30 rounder out there, or are they all junk like a lot of others. Seems the USGI 30's are hard to find.

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Mooseman684 · 12-30-2007, 02:46 PM

You are gonna get hammered for calling them "Clips"...LOL They are Magazines, and there are very few aftermarket ones that will hold up or function properly...The 15 rd GI mags are still the best !
USGI 30 rd mags are spendy and getting hard to find...
Gunshows sometimes, I stumble on 1 or 2...
Rich

billy · 12-30-2007, 03:09 PM

i clicked on this to correct you on your terminology but moose beat me to it!

samuel · 12-30-2007, 03:44 PM

Yeah!Clips are those things you put on paper to hold it together,or the things I put bullets in and "clip"in rifles.and call clips when noone is around. sam.

ArkansasHunter · 12-30-2007, 03:52 PM

Then where and when did the word "Clip" come into being in place of the word magazine.
All my life I've heard Clip and as of late now Magazine.
To be Political Correct I have now started calling Clips Magazines, geez though a magazine is some thing you read and look at pictures...A.H

mosineer · 12-30-2007, 04:26 PM

Ouch!! I Humbly stand corrected.

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oldjarhead · 12-30-2007, 10:57 PM

Dang, Mos...you just earned 13 lashes with a wet noodle...absolutely disgraceful!
I believe the "clip" got it's handle from early early magazine fed 22 and small cal rifles like the Winchester Model 43 whose magazines were held in place by a spring clip instead of a latch.
Who knows for sure...but it sounds good.

mosineer · 12-30-2007, 11:49 PM

In keeping with the time honored tradition of deflecting at least a a bit of blame to someone else. And since I am allergic to noodle lashes. I referred back to my copy of U.S. M1 Carbines, Wartime Production By Craig Riesch Quote " The Type 3 magazine had a 30 Round capacity. It was also curved , which resulted in the nickname "Banana Clip".

OK, OK, I know, a bit lame but all I could come up with to help reduce my sentence. Not sure Riesch just threw that in for effect or not. I have found his book to be fairly accurate in most cases.
I am at the blackboard now: MagazineMagazineMagazineMagazineMagazineMagazine
MagazineMagazineMagazine...............

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samuel · 12-30-2007, 11:56 PM

I wonder if we could comprimise and call them "clip in magazines"? sam.

troy2000 · 12-30-2007, 11:59 PM

And of course you feed fixed magazines with stripper clips or charger clips...

I dunno what that has to do with anything; I just threw it in to muddy the waters...

oldjarhead · 12-31-2007, 09:55 AM

COMPROMISE!!!!
There ain't no compromise!
The water keeps getting murkier and murkier.
And Mos started it all...LOL

Big Dog · 12-31-2007, 04:17 PM

... or we can all be totally PC and use the BATFE's designation - "large capacity ammunition feeding device".

mosineer · 12-31-2007, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldjarhead

COMPROMISE!!!!
There ain't no compromise!
The water keeps getting murkier and murkier.
And Mos started it all...LOL

I sorry...

,
Magazine, Magazine, Magazine, Magazine.........

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sexysete · 12-31-2007, 05:49 PM

I don't like pc it sucks. A magazine is a magazine if you call it a clip you are wrong, but we know exactly what you mean so don't worry about it

letsroll · 12-31-2007, 05:55 PM

They have been referred to as clips as long and as often as they have magazines.

We drive autmobiles but call them cars, autos, rides, etc.

Just because some internet site tells you to call it one way is not a good reason in my book.

And by the way I think the term comes from stripper clips. Have they not been around as long or longer that detachable magazines? I bet they asked for clips not magazines when sitting in the trenches needing ammo!

oldjarhead · 12-31-2007, 09:24 PM

Actually, guys, the terms are inter-changeable and have been for decades. They are both considered feed devices. Sexy and Lets...it's in the humor...don't take it so hard.

Hey, Mos...hand me one of those extruded metal bullet retaining devices so I can introduce my ammunition to the receiver of my carbine in the most expeditious manner possible.

LOL

mosineer · 01-01-2008, 07:00 AM

Yeah, just having a little fun.

Initially it was simply a Freudian slip of the fingers. Then had to run with it to stay ahead of the hammers and the noodle lashes. Look how informative this thread has become. We learned about spring clips, paper clips, stripper clips, charger clips and clip in magazines. Magazines you load and magazines you read(thanks AH). And my favorites "large capacity ammunition feeding devices" and "extruded metal bullet retaining devices" (I like that!!) WOW!!!
Found a couple of more 15's at the gun show this weekend, but alas, no 30's to be had...Carry on and !!!HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

MagazineMagazineMagazineMagazineMagazineMagazine
MagazineMagazineMagazine...............

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oldjarhead · 01-01-2008, 10:06 AM

Mos, If we ever meet up, remind me to show you my stripper clips...but it's up to you to find the super 8mm projector.
Hey, am I on the right forum?

Oh, BTW, you're forgiven.

sexysete · 01-01-2008, 03:08 PM

agreed

Delta-3 · 01-01-2008, 03:38 PM

I understand both terms are used to describe this "thing" but being an old fussbudget I think it should be called correctly. Some rifles do use clips, M-1 Garand for example.It is a matter of nomenclature description. You don't call the barrel "the tube". You don't call the trigger" a "pull hook" & you shouldn't call a magazine a "clip". As per this response, call me a PITA. I believe that is the correct term.

(besides, in coversation I've slipped up too, but keep it to yourself)

12-30-2007, 02:38 PM	#1
mosineer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 1,449	Question on clips I have a number of USGI clips for my carbine, all 15 's except for one 30. Is there a dependable after market 30 rounder out there, or are they all junk like a lot of others. Seems the USGI 30's are hard to find. *************************************************** All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing**

12-30-2007, 02:46 PM	#2
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness...Currently in Holiday, Fla. Posts: 11,013 Images: 2	You are gonna get hammered for calling them "Clips"...LOL They are Magazines, and there are very few aftermarket ones that will hold up or function properly...The 15 rd GI mags are still the best ! USGI 30 rd mags are spendy and getting hard to find... Gunshows sometimes, I stumble on 1 or 2... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

12-30-2007, 03:09 PM	#3
billy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 15,788 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 158	i clicked on this to correct you on your terminology but moose beat me to it! __________________ ignint mcnugget... the slug o love sez... remember kids two warning shots to the head for safety!

12-30-2007, 03:52 PM	#5
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 11,270	Then where and when did the word "Clip" come into being in place of the word magazine. All my life I've heard Clip and as of late now Magazine. To be Political Correct I have now started calling Clips Magazines, geez though a magazine is some thing you read and look at pictures...A.H Last edited by ArkansasHunter; 12-30-2007 at 10:13 PM.

12-30-2007, 11:59 PM	#10
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 10,470 Images: 9	And of course you feed fixed magazines with stripper clips or charger clips... I dunno what that has to do with anything; I just threw it in to muddy the waters... __________________ I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said. WF Buckley, Jr

12-30-2007, 03:44 PM	#4
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,081	Yeah!Clips are those things you put on paper to hold it together,or the things I put bullets in and "clip"in rifles.and call clips when noone is around. sam.

12-30-2007, 04:26 PM	#6
mosineer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 1,449	Ouch!! I Humbly stand corrected. *************************************************** All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing**

12-30-2007, 10:57 PM	#7
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MO Posts: 1,023	Dang, Mos...you just earned 13 lashes with a wet noodle...absolutely disgraceful! I believe the "clip" got it's handle from early early magazine fed 22 and small cal rifles like the Winchester Model 43 whose magazines were held in place by a spring clip instead of a latch. Who knows for sure...but it sounds good.

12-30-2007, 11:49 PM	#8
mosineer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 1,449	In keeping with the time honored tradition of deflecting at least a a bit of blame to someone else. And since I am allergic to noodle lashes. I referred back to my copy of U.S. M1 Carbines, Wartime Production By Craig Riesch Quote " The Type 3 magazine had a 30 Round capacity. It was also curved , which resulted in the nickname "Banana Clip". OK, OK, I know, a bit lame but all I could come up with to help reduce my sentence. Not sure Riesch just threw that in for effect or not. I have found his book to be fairly accurate in most cases. I am at the blackboard now: MagazineMagazineMagazineMagazineMagazineMagazine MagazineMagazineMagazine............... *************************************************** All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing**

12-30-2007, 11:56 PM	#9
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,081	I wonder if we could comprimise and call them "clip in magazines"? sam.

12-31-2007, 09:55 AM	#11
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MO Posts: 1,023	COMPROMISE!!!! There ain't no compromise! The water keeps getting murkier and murkier. And Mos started it all...LOL

12-31-2007, 04:17 PM	#12
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,646	... or we can all be totally PC and use the BATFE's designation - "large capacity ammunition feeding device". __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

12-31-2007, 05:49 PM	#14
sexysete Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oak Harbor, Wa Posts: 32	I don't like pc it sucks. A magazine is a magazine if you call it a clip you are wrong, but we know exactly what you mean so don't worry about it

12-31-2007, 05:55 PM	#15
letsroll Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: central IL Posts: 75	They have been referred to as clips as long and as often as they have magazines. We drive autmobiles but call them cars, autos, rides, etc. Just because some internet site tells you to call it one way is not a good reason in my book. And by the way I think the term comes from stripper clips. Have they not been around as long or longer that detachable magazines? I bet they asked for clips not magazines when sitting in the trenches needing ammo! Last edited by letsroll; 12-31-2007 at 05:59 PM.

12-31-2007, 09:24 PM	#16
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MO Posts: 1,023	Actually, guys, the terms are inter-changeable and have been for decades. They are both considered feed devices. Sexy and Lets...it's in the humor...don't take it so hard. Hey, Mos...hand me one of those extruded metal bullet retaining devices so I can introduce my ammunition to the receiver of my carbine in the most expeditious manner possible. LOL

01-01-2008, 07:00 AM	#17
mosineer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 1,449	Yeah, just having a little fun. Initially it was simply a Freudian slip of the fingers. Then had to run with it to stay ahead of the hammers and the noodle lashes. Look how informative this thread has become. We learned about spring clips, paper clips, stripper clips, charger clips and clip in magazines. Magazines you load and magazines you read(thanks AH). And my favorites "large capacity ammunition feeding devices" and "extruded metal bullet retaining devices" (I like that!!) WOW!!! Found a couple of more 15's at the gun show this weekend, but alas, no 30's to be had...Carry on and !!!HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! MagazineMagazineMagazineMagazineMagazineMagazine MagazineMagazineMagazine............... *************************************************** All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing**

01-01-2008, 10:06 AM	#18
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MO Posts: 1,023	Mos, If we ever meet up, remind me to show you my stripper clips...but it's up to you to find the super 8mm projector. Hey, am I on the right forum? Oh, BTW, you're forgiven.

01-01-2008, 03:08 PM	#19
sexysete Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oak Harbor, Wa Posts: 32	agreed

01-01-2008, 03:38 PM	#20
Delta-3 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NW Ohio but Montana is always home Posts: 112	I understand both terms are used to describe this "thing" but being an old fussbudget I think it should be called correctly. Some rifles do use clips, M-1 Garand for example.It is a matter of nomenclature description. You don't call the barrel "the tube". You don't call the trigger" a "pull hook" & you shouldn't call a magazine a "clip". As per this response, call me a PITA. I believe that is the correct term. (besides, in coversation I've slipped up too, but keep it to yourself) __________________ Be polite. Be professional but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.