.357 Speculation

BattleRifleG3 · 03-15-2002, 02:47 PM

Ok, this is all ambitious speculation, but...

If some guy came out with a custom production recoil operated carbine in .357 Rem Mag, who out there would be interested, and how much would you pay? Obviously that would depend on the quality, but just a ballpark price?

And would people prefer more of a single piece stocked version or a pistol gripped version?

Any other calibers of particular interest?

Uncle Red · 03-15-2002, 08:04 PM

I have often thought of an M1 carbine chambered for the .357. Think it would be better with a converted M1 mag or set up to take mags from the Desert Eagle? -UR.

Calvin · 03-15-2002, 08:13 PM

I'm in agreement with Red on this. I would like to see the carbine offered in 357, too. But, as far as a new carbine, I would have to say a straight stock. Somewhere in the $350-425 dollar range. Maybe an intergral scope mount, too? What say?

Paul C · 03-16-2002, 12:06 AM

I too would like to see a 357 mag carbine. The .44 has done well for Ruger and a .357 would be slick. Although, if I had my 'druthers, I'd rather see Bill and the boys build a .45 to run along side their P series autos, such as the PC9 and PC40.

Jack O · 03-16-2002, 06:27 PM

Sure would be nice to have it chambered for 357 maximum. Have to be a real hum dinger

Peter · 03-17-2002, 08:03 PM

How about a .357 SIG carbine? I think a conversion kit for a ruger PC40 to chamber .357 SiG and use glock magazines would be a big seller. I'll order one right now!!

LarryO1970 · 01-01-2008, 03:37 PM

I'd be pretty partial to a .357 Sig carbine myself modeled after some of the Ruger police carbines like the PC 40. The velocities this would produce would be incredible... from a CQB gun to that of a brush gun, it would be great!

I have also read that there is a prototype out of the AR configuration but the magazines are "modified" Uzi mags... and they have been problematic.

I have a SA .357 Sig... and love it... would like it even more if there were a carbine available.

nathangdad · 01-01-2008, 04:50 PM

An M-1 carbine chambered for the .357 mag pistol round was done by a few people in the 1960's. I recall reading about it as a teenager. The conversion did not garner the interests of the law enforcement and sporting communities. It might be possible to advertise in a publication such as Shotgun News and get detailed information on this project. Any "start from scratch" attempt at this conversion would naturally incur a great deal of expense for engineering, tooling, purchase of M-1 carbines, labor, etc. However, if you work hard enough you just might find the investor(s) to pursue this conversion. It might work in today's market. On the downside, the major manufacturer's spend a great deal of time and money on marketing research and they have not felt it economically justified to produce a .357 magnum pistol cartridge semi-auto rifle.

JSnover · 01-01-2008, 05:23 PM

There was a 45 WinMag M1 a while back. Ruger's .44 carbine was a pretty neat package but I got the impression that the high-cap ban was a marketing handicap. Too bad.....

jerry · 01-01-2008, 06:26 PM

Welcome fellow blue suiter LarryO1970.

LarryO1970 · 01-01-2008, 08:48 PM

Nice to meet ya Top...

Mooseman684 · 01-01-2008, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

Ok, this is all ambitious speculation, but...
If some guy came out with a custom production recoil operated carbine in .357 Rem Mag, who out there would be interested, and how much would you pay? Obviously that would depend on the quality, but just a ballpark price?
And would people prefer more of a single piece stocked version or a pistol gripped version?
Any other calibers of particular interest?

DID you mean .357 Remington Maximum ???
There is No .357 Rem Mag....
Rich

BattleRifleG3 · 01-02-2008, 05:04 PM

I've seen 357 frequently listed as 357 Rem Mag.

I've since determined that 357 wouldn't work in a straight blowback carbine. It would have to have some sort of locking system.

utahvarminter · 01-02-2008, 05:07 PM

I want a Ruger Deerfield Carbine in 357 mag.

My S&W 27 needs a big bro!

petemi · 01-18-2008, 03:52 PM

When riding, I carry a Blackhawk .357 and was thinking about switching my Marlin 336 .30-30 saddle gun to a Marlin .357 lever gun, but a .357 carbine would be fantastic. These weapons are not for hunting in the way we use them with horses. They are there because of who knows what may happen. You may have to euthanize a horse or chase away a totally unhappy bear, or better, put supper in the pot.

03-15-2002, 02:47 PM	#1
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	.357 Speculation Ok, this is all ambitious speculation, but... If some guy came out with a custom production recoil operated carbine in .357 Rem Mag, who out there would be interested, and how much would you pay? Obviously that would depend on the quality, but just a ballpark price? And would people prefer more of a single piece stocked version or a pistol gripped version? Any other calibers of particular interest?

03-15-2002, 08:04 PM	#2
Uncle Red Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 547 Trader Rating: (0)	I have often thought of an M1 carbine chambered for the .357. Think it would be better with a converted M1 mag or set up to take mags from the Desert Eagle? -UR. __________________ "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"--Amendment II, Bill of Rights "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."--Thomas Paine "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one." - Jesus, Luke 22:36

03-16-2002, 06:27 PM	#5
Jack O Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mobile Alabama Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (0)	Sure would be nice to have it chambered for 357 maximum. Have to be a real hum dinger __________________ " Without proper weaponry the hunter will become the hunted"

03-17-2002, 08:03 PM	#6
Peter Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0)	.357 carbine How about a .357 SIG carbine? I think a conversion kit for a ruger PC40 to chamber .357 SiG and use glock magazines would be a big seller. I'll order one right now!!

01-01-2008, 03:37 PM	#7
LarryO1970 "Blazing Saddles" GOV Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 2,054 Trader Rating: (0)	.357 Sig carbine I'd be pretty partial to a .357 Sig carbine myself modeled after some of the Ruger police carbines like the PC 40. The velocities this would produce would be incredible... from a CQB gun to that of a brush gun, it would be great! I have also read that there is a prototype out of the AR configuration but the magazines are "modified" Uzi mags... and they have been problematic. I have a SA .357 Sig... and love it... would like it even more if there were a carbine available.

03-15-2002, 08:13 PM	#3
Calvin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,991 Trader Rating: (0)	I'm in agreement with Red on this. I would like to see the carbine offered in 357, too. But, as far as a new carbine, I would have to say a straight stock. Somewhere in the $350-425 dollar range. Maybe an intergral scope mount, too? What say?

03-16-2002, 12:06 AM	#4
Paul C Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0)	I too would like to see a 357 mag carbine. The .44 has done well for Ruger and a .357 would be slick. Although, if I had my 'druthers, I'd rather see Bill and the boys build a .45 to run along side their P series autos, such as the PC9 and PC40.

01-01-2008, 04:50 PM	#8
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,101 Trader Rating: (0)	1960's M-1 project An M-1 carbine chambered for the .357 mag pistol round was done by a few people in the 1960's. I recall reading about it as a teenager. The conversion did not garner the interests of the law enforcement and sporting communities. It might be possible to advertise in a publication such as Shotgun News and get detailed information on this project. Any "start from scratch" attempt at this conversion would naturally incur a great deal of expense for engineering, tooling, purchase of M-1 carbines, labor, etc. However, if you work hard enough you just might find the investor(s) to pursue this conversion. It might work in today's market. On the downside, the major manufacturer's spend a great deal of time and money on marketing research and they have not felt it economically justified to produce a .357 magnum pistol cartridge semi-auto rifle.

01-01-2008, 05:23 PM	#9
JSnover Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 186 Trader Rating: (0)	There was a 45 WinMag M1 a while back. Ruger's .44 carbine was a pretty neat package but I got the impression that the high-cap ban was a marketing handicap. Too bad.....

01-01-2008, 06:26 PM	#10
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,751 Trader Rating: (0)	Welcome fellow blue suiter LarryO1970. __________________

01-01-2008, 08:48 PM	#11
LarryO1970 "Blazing Saddles" GOV Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 2,054 Trader Rating: (0)	Nice to meet ya Top...

01-02-2008, 05:04 PM	#13
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	I've seen 357 frequently listed as 357 Rem Mag. I've since determined that 357 wouldn't work in a straight blowback carbine. It would have to have some sort of locking system. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

01-02-2008, 05:07 PM	#14
utahvarminter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 485 Trader Rating: (0)	I want a Ruger Deerfield Carbine in 357 mag. My S&W 27 needs a big bro! __________________ My Photo Album

01-18-2008, 03:52 PM	#15
petemi Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Engadine, Upper Peninsula, MI Posts: 86 Trader Rating: (0)	When riding, I carry a Blackhawk .357 and was thinking about switching my Marlin 336 .30-30 saddle gun to a Marlin .357 lever gun, but a .357 carbine would be fantastic. These weapons are not for hunting in the way we use them with horses. They are there because of who knows what may happen. You may have to euthanize a horse or chase away a totally unhappy bear, or better, put supper in the pot.

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