I cant stop!!! Marlin 45-70 lever action - Page 2

knightRider · 12-05-2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by warder348

You gonna scope it KR or just get the ghost peep sight from XS. I have the blued one like it and haven't decided which way to go with the sight set up, these 60 year old eyes ain't as good as they used to be so might end up scoping it, what set up would you use?

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yeah i got a low powerd leopold scope and the rings you can still use your iron sites with seem to work well so far.

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Originally Posted by neophyte

knightRider: Sir; what happened

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crout · 12-05-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nathangdad

Recoil, pain, shoulder wear and tear, muzzle blast,
and a fast track to teaching you to flinch.

Have you really thought this out???

I shoot 405grainers from my marlin 45-70ss. I can shoot it all day long. It is a well balanced gun and recoil is not at all what i expected. Although I don't use it for anything other than plinking and bear protection. I should really get rid of mine.

otteray · 12-09-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by samuel

I like the sound of cut riflings.A weakness Marlin had was microgroove in their hi-powers.Worked great in .22,s but not so good in hp,s sam.

Sorry, gotta disagree.
That's an old wive's tale that just ain't so.
It was actually talking about cast loads, not jacketed. Even so, it's an old false rumor.
In any case, both my microgroove barreled rifles (.41 Mag and 45-70) have good accuracy with wheelweight gaschecked bullets keeping velocities at about 1400fps. Gotta harden the lead for anything faster than about 1500fps or so.
Bullets need to be .002 oversized.

wolfpack795 · 12-20-2007, 02:13 PM

gaschhecked lead can be pushed a tad over 2000fps microgroved or not with vary good accuracy.

rogertc1 · 12-21-2007, 05:59 AM

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Renegadedeputy · 01-13-2008, 04:04 PM

I guess I was just lucky, I got a perfect condition ported barrel 45-70 for $150 and a 444 in perfect condition for $250.

Windwalker · 01-13-2008, 04:22 PM

Renegade deputy, did you have to hold a gun on them to get those prices? lol If I found a 45-70 at that price I would own it too.

LiveToShoot · 01-13-2008, 06:16 PM

RD... Congratulations on your two purchases! I too would have snatched both of those rifles up quickly, for the price and condition you noted. Is the 45-70 the Marlin 1895G? Maybe you'll be able to share pics of the two?

nathangdad · 01-13-2008, 07:30 PM

Congratulations on a gun that you seem beyond happy to have. Good luck with it. Also, you can take recoil obviously much better than I.

ArkansasHunter · 01-13-2008, 07:33 PM

Yea congrats but I wish it were me instead of you that got that great deal !

HUMBUG...A.H

dogman2 · 01-13-2008, 08:05 PM

I have one with the ported barrel (DISCONTINUED) and put the bear proof ejector and good triger form brownells in it. Put a Leupold 1 1/2 X 5 on it. great rig, lots of field of view.

WyrTwister · 01-14-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by warder348

You gonna scope it KR or just get the ghost peep sight from XS. I have the blued one like it and haven't decided which way to go with the sight set up, these 60 year old eyes ain't as good as they used to be so might end up scoping it, what set up would you use?

I recently bought a new 1895 in the ltandard barrel length & blue steel .

I put a Burris Fullfield II 3 x 9 on it . Only shot it once so far , but I think I am going to like the scope . And the scope comes with a life time warrenty . :-)

God bless
Wyr

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Originally Posted by nathangdad

Recoil, pain, shoulder wear and tear, muzzle blast,
and a fast track to teaching you to flinch.
Have you really thought this out???

Recoil is just a function of how much powder you pour into the case . And how heavy a bullet you put on top of the powder .

I will bet that there is a higher percentage of .45-70 shooters that reload , than almost any other caliber . Lever gun caliber , anyway ?

God bless
Wyr

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Originally Posted by samuel

I read an article by Brian Pierce about hunting in Africa with a .45-70 and he had it loaded up to the equivelant of a weak .458win.He brought water buffalo down with total penetration of the body.Thats really hot loads. sam.

According to the Lyman book , you can load .45-70 to within about 500 fps of a .458 Win Mag , in a Marlin . A little hotter in a Ruger single shot .

God bless
Wyr

samuel · 01-14-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by otteray

Sorry, gotta disagree.
That's an old wive's tale that just ain't so.
It was actually talking about cast loads, not jacketed. Even so, it's an old false rumor.
In any case, both my microgroove barreled rifles (.41 Mag and 45-70) have good accuracy with wheelweight gaschecked bullets keeping velocities at about 1400fps. Gotta harden the lead for anything faster than about 1500fps or so.
Bullets need to be .002 oversized.

You may disagree but Marlin didnt.They went back to standard riflings on high power,s. sam.

Reddbecca · 01-14-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by otteray

Sorry, gotta disagree.
That's an old wive's tale that just ain't so.
It was actually talking about cast loads, not jacketed. Even so, it's an old false rumor.
In any case, both my microgroove barreled rifles (.41 Mag and 45-70) have good accuracy with wheelweight gaschecked bullets keeping velocities at about 1400fps. Gotta harden the lead for anything faster than about 1500fps or so.
Bullets need to be .002 oversized.

0.002" oversized? What would that make the diameter of your selected bullets, .460"? If so how much resizing of the neck do you need to do with the brass?

samuel · 01-14-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Reddbecca

0.002" oversized? What would that make the diameter of your selected bullets, .460"? If so how much resizing of the neck do you need to do with the brass?

I dont think he is wrong on this.If you have a .451/.452 bore,with cast you would normally use.452/.454 dia.bullet. sam.

Big Tool · 01-14-2008, 10:52 PM

Congrats on the rifle KR. That sounds like a good price. I have a 444xlr and love it. It's my primary whitetail rifle. My dad has a matching 45-70marlin xlr. The reason we bought ours is because a local outdoors supply warehouse burnt down and they had the hornady leverloution bullets for both calibers for 10.00 a box. We both bought a couple cases but should have bought much more.

knightRider · 01-15-2008, 08:59 AM

yeah stuff cost $$$$ i got 200 rounds so i doubt ill ever kill that many deers with it .

dogman2 · 01-16-2008, 02:16 AM

Sam,
45-70s use a .458 bullet.
45 Colt and 45 ACP plus 454s use .451 ans 452 bullets. Some older Colts use .454.

SilverRun · 01-16-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dogman2

Sam,
45-70s use a .458 bullet.
45 Colt and 45 ACP plus 454s use .451 ans 452 bullets. Some older Colts use .454.

I didn't know that. That is good info. I don't reload for either caliber yet though.

I don't know why, but i want one of these rifles as well. Not really needed in my part of the country.

petemi · 01-19-2008, 07:21 PM

You're going to love that Leverevolution .45-70. It shoots!!! My Handi rifle and I can't wait to get more!

01-13-2008, 06:16 PM	#28
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 1,559 Trader Rating: (0)	RD... Congratulations on your two purchases! I too would have snatched both of those rifles up quickly, for the price and condition you noted. Is the 45-70 the Marlin 1895G? Maybe you'll be able to share pics of the two? __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown

01-13-2008, 07:30 PM	#29
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,103 Trader Rating: (0)	Congratulations Congratulations on a gun that you seem beyond happy to have. Good luck with it. Also, you can take recoil obviously much better than I.

01-15-2008, 08:59 AM	#37
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,492 Trader Rating: (0)	yeah stuff cost $$$$ i got 200 rounds so i doubt ill ever kill that many deers with it . __________________ I'm part kalishnakov, part heckler and Koch.

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12-20-2007, 02:13 PM	#24
wolfpack795 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0)	gaschhecked lead can be pushed a tad over 2000fps microgroved or not with vary good accuracy.

12-21-2007, 05:59 AM	#25
rogertc1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 7 Trader Rating: (0)	Check out Wild West Guns: The finest in Custom Rifles from Alaska to the World! after you get your gun you can customise her. I did mine. Rog

01-13-2008, 04:04 PM	#26
Renegadedeputy Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Havelock, NC Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0)	I guess I was just lucky, I got a perfect condition ported barrel 45-70 for $150 and a 444 in perfect condition for $250.

01-13-2008, 04:22 PM	#27
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,144 Trader Rating: (0)	Renegade deputy, did you have to hold a gun on them to get those prices? lol If I found a 45-70 at that price I would own it too.

01-13-2008, 07:33 PM	#30
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,408 Trader Rating: (0)	Yea congrats but I wish it were me instead of you that got that great deal ! HUMBUG...A.H

01-13-2008, 08:05 PM	#31
dogman2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 178 Trader Rating: (0)	I have one with the ported barrel (DISCONTINUED) and put the bear proof ejector and good triger form brownells in it. Put a Leupold 1 1/2 X 5 on it. great rig, lots of field of view.

01-14-2008, 10:52 PM	#36
Big Tool Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: MS Posts: 575 Trader Rating: (0)	Congrats on the rifle KR. That sounds like a good price. I have a 444xlr and love it. It's my primary whitetail rifle. My dad has a matching 45-70marlin xlr. The reason we bought ours is because a local outdoors supply warehouse burnt down and they had the hornady leverloution bullets for both calibers for 10.00 a box. We both bought a couple cases but should have bought much more.

01-16-2008, 02:16 AM	#38
dogman2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 178 Trader Rating: (0)	Sam, 45-70s use a .458 bullet. 45 Colt and 45 ACP plus 454s use .451 ans 452 bullets. Some older Colts use .454.

01-19-2008, 07:21 PM	#40
petemi Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Engadine, Upper Peninsula, MI Posts: 86 Trader Rating: (0)	You're going to love that Leverevolution .45-70. It shoots!!! My Handi rifle and I can't wait to get more!