winchester .284 model 70

bobkegs · 12-11-2007, 09:26 PM

Have an opportunity to purchase a NIB win. mod 70 in .284. This is the rare one, with clip....mfgd in early 90's, with walnut stock.
Can this gun be pillar bedded, given it has a clip?
Asking price is $1000.00.
Is this reasonable?
bobkegs

Seabeescotty · 12-23-2007, 10:20 AM

Hi Bob, you have a dilemna(can't spell) and I don't envy you a bit. I am the custodian of a '52 Model 70 in .270 caliber. My son will become custodian after I'm gone. I've been told that my .270 was worth about $1200 before I mounted the scope on it. And after a few shots, I realized something. Don't fix something that ain't broke. My old rifle is fully bedded, wood to metal, and has never failed to perform. I was granted the opportunity to harvest a trophy blacktail three years ago. It had snowed and the temp. was in the teens. But that rifle shot like it was still summer. That buck has a permanant home in my gun room. I'd say a grand ain't bad, since they don't make 'em anymore, and I'd also say shoot it awhile and see if it needs work. Make sense? Just my personal opinion, Seabeescotty.

Mooseman684 · 12-23-2007, 11:08 AM

That would be a Winchester Model 70 Classic DBM in .284 Winchester...Blue Book Price is 695.00 for 100% NIB. There were less than 200 Mfg. If you buy it to keep New as an Investment for future Increase in Value, it might be worth it. If you are buying it to hunt with and shoot, Not worth it from a Collectors standpoint because Condition is everything when it comes to value...

nathangdad · 12-23-2007, 12:23 PM

Honestly, there is not an answer I could give you.
Any investment in a rare or extremely rare firearm will carry some risk of future value. You might ask yourself these questions: 1. Am I willing to have it and keep it in its current condition - that is - not expose it to potential damage by hunting, carrying it around in a vehicle, perhaps getting a scratch on it at a practice bench? 2. Am I willing to have my money tied up perhaps for a long time before the value of the firearm makes a dramatic market gain (if it ever does)? On the other hand many people get a great satisfaction simply out of owning a rare or extremely rare firearm and that counts for a lot in their lives.

bobkegs · 12-23-2007, 09:25 PM

Thanks, gentlemen.

This causes me to ponder.....If I could pillar bed this rifle, would it negatively affect the value, all the rest being equal? Is it "bedable", given the close tolerances in the wood necessary to acommodate the clip?

vern · 01-11-2008, 05:07 PM

Hi bob did you buy this model 70 284 there very nice guns hard to find always wanted one

bobkegs · 01-12-2008, 08:05 PM

Have not bought the rifle yet. I would love to make the purchase, but it is to be a hunting rifle and the price is high. If I knew I could pillar bed the rifle, with room to spare, I would do it in a heartbeat.

Any thoughts?

Bob kegs

SwedeSteve · 01-13-2008, 06:14 PM

Keep it NIB.

bobkegs · 01-15-2008, 11:30 PM

You really would pay $1000.00 for this gun? Bob

vern · 01-16-2008, 04:51 PM

Bob the gun is worth $1000 nib if for any reason you decide not to buy hook me up i always wanted one. Brian

vern · 01-17-2008, 09:23 AM

okole · 01-24-2008, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seabeescotty

Hi Bob, you have a dilemna(can't spell) and I don't envy you a bit. I am the custodian of a '52 Model 70 in .270 caliber. My son will become custodian after I'm gone. I've been told that my .270 was worth about $1200 before I mounted the scope on it. And after a few shots, I realized something. Don't fix something that ain't broke. My old rifle is fully bedded, wood to metal, and has never failed to perform. I was granted the opportunity to harvest a trophy blacktail three years ago. It had snowed and the temp. was in the teens. But that rifle shot like it was still summer. That buck has a permanant home in my gun room. I'd say a grand ain't bad, since they don't make 'em anymore, and I'd also say shoot it awhile and see if it needs work. Make sense? Just my personal opinion, Seabeescotty.

How did mounting a scope on your rifle affect its value (other than increasing it by the value of the scope)? For the price you quoted it would have to be in 98% or better condition or a super grade. None the less, my M70's are the pride of my collection of guns as I'm sure yours is to you.

bobkegs · 02-05-2008, 07:39 AM

Have not bought the gun yet, but it is still available. I will probably buy it, given its rarity value, but also to hunt with. This is still contingent upon whether or not I can free float and pillar bed the barrel. Is this gun bedable, given itd dbm? What do you guys think?
Bob Kegs

12-11-2007, 09:26 PM	#1
bobkegs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0)	winchester .284 model 70 Have an opportunity to purchase a NIB win. mod 70 in .284. This is the rare one, with clip....mfgd in early 90's, with walnut stock. Can this gun be pillar bedded, given it has a clip? Asking price is $1000.00. Is this reasonable? bobkegs

12-23-2007, 10:20 AM	#2
Seabeescotty Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jay, Oklahoma, God's country. Posts: 3,699 Trader Rating: (0)	Love that Model 70 Hi Bob, you have a dilemna(can't spell) and I don't envy you a bit. I am the custodian of a '52 Model 70 in .270 caliber. My son will become custodian after I'm gone. I've been told that my .270 was worth about $1200 before I mounted the scope on it. And after a few shots, I realized something. Don't fix something that ain't broke. My old rifle is fully bedded, wood to metal, and has never failed to perform. I was granted the opportunity to harvest a trophy blacktail three years ago. It had snowed and the temp. was in the teens. But that rifle shot like it was still summer. That buck has a permanant home in my gun room. I'd say a grand ain't bad, since they don't make 'em anymore, and I'd also say shoot it awhile and see if it needs work. Make sense? Just my personal opinion, Seabeescotty.

12-23-2007, 11:08 AM	#3
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,266 Trader Rating: (0)	That would be a Winchester Model 70 Classic DBM in .284 Winchester...Blue Book Price is 695.00 for 100% NIB. There were less than 200 Mfg. If you buy it to keep New as an Investment for future Increase in Value, it might be worth it. If you are buying it to hunt with and shoot, Not worth it from a Collectors standpoint because Condition is everything when it comes to value... __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

12-23-2007, 12:23 PM	#4
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,255 Trader Rating: (0)	It is always a difficult decision Honestly, there is not an answer I could give you. Any investment in a rare or extremely rare firearm will carry some risk of future value. You might ask yourself these questions: 1. Am I willing to have it and keep it in its current condition - that is - not expose it to potential damage by hunting, carrying it around in a vehicle, perhaps getting a scratch on it at a practice bench? 2. Am I willing to have my money tied up perhaps for a long time before the value of the firearm makes a dramatic market gain (if it ever does)? On the other hand many people get a great satisfaction simply out of owning a rare or extremely rare firearm and that counts for a lot in their lives.

01-12-2008, 08:05 PM	#7
bobkegs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0)	Update, Vern Have not bought the rifle yet. I would love to make the purchase, but it is to be a hunting rifle and the price is high. If I knew I could pillar bed the rifle, with room to spare, I would do it in a heartbeat. Any thoughts? Bob kegs

12-23-2007, 09:25 PM	#5
bobkegs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks, gentlemen. This causes me to ponder.....If I could pillar bed this rifle, would it negatively affect the value, all the rest being equal? Is it "bedable", given the close tolerances in the wood necessary to acommodate the clip?

01-11-2008, 05:07 PM	#6
vern Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0)	Hi bob did you buy this model 70 284 there very nice guns hard to find always wanted one

01-13-2008, 06:14 PM	#8
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,133 Trader Rating: (0)	Keep it NIB. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

01-15-2008, 11:30 PM	#9
bobkegs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0)	You really would pay $1000.00 for this gun? Bob

01-16-2008, 04:51 PM	#10
vern Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0)	Bob the gun is worth $1000 nib if for any reason you decide not to buy hook me up i always wanted one. Brian

01-17-2008, 09:23 AM	#11
vern Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0)	yes

02-05-2008, 07:39 AM	#13
bobkegs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0)	Have not bought the gun yet, but it is still available. I will probably buy it, given its rarity value, but also to hunt with. This is still contingent upon whether or not I can free float and pillar bed the barrel. Is this gun bedable, given itd dbm? What do you guys think? Bob Kegs